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Ascendic
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.09.08 13:43:00 - [1]
 

Seeing as the GM's are useless and refuse to help since I am running an eve client on server 2008 R2 I will ask you geniuses. The client used to work however after changing some settings and then copying my settings files from my other pc to this one the client somehow is corrupted. It appears to be looking for font files that did not exist but even after adding them it still does not load. I get a black screen when loading client and that is all. I have uninstalled and deleted all settings in the app data and documents folders and it did not help. The only thing that worked was when I reformatted the server for another issue I was having. So obviously there is some setting somewhere that EVE is looking at otherwise why would only a reformat fix it and not removing files / uninstall. Anyone have ideas if there are other locations or hidden registry entries it is looking at and loading the bad settings?

Lonzo Kincaid
Black Bands
Posted - 2010.09.08 13:47:00 - [2]
 


Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
Posted - 2010.09.08 13:48:00 - [3]
 

Tried running the logserver and see if there's any erorrs there that might give you a clue as to what to look for?

Mashie Saldana
Minmatar
Veto Corp
Posted - 2010.09.08 13:56:00 - [4]
 

Isn't DirectX missing in Server 2008?

DontEven
Posted - 2010.09.08 14:22:00 - [5]
 

I seem to remember that you have the enable 'Desktop Experience'

CyberGh0st
Minmatar
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
Posted - 2010.09.08 14:33:00 - [6]
 

Hmm, running EVE on our company's main server, interesting concept :p

CyberGh0st
Minmatar
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
Posted - 2010.09.08 14:36:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: CyberGh0st on 08/09/2010 14:36:58

Originally by: Mashie Saldana
Isn't DirectX missing in Server 2008?


Definatly not, how would the OP have played EVE otherwise? It runs DirectX 11 ( R2 seems closer to Windows 7 than to Vista in several area's, I assume the first version of 2008 runs DX10 ).


De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Norse'Storm Battle Group
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2010.09.08 14:40:00 - [8]
 

Not an expert on any server OS by any means, but is there not a way to do a compare on a server to see what a program adds when you install it? Ie, take a snapshot before the install and another one afterwards and compare the two?

Or am I insane?

CyberGh0st
Minmatar
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
Posted - 2010.09.08 14:42:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Ascendic
Seeing as the GM's are useless and refuse to help since I am running an eve client on server 2008 R2 I will ask you geniuses. The client used to work however after changing some settings and then copying my settings files from my other pc to this one the client somehow is corrupted. It appears to be looking for font files that did not exist but even after adding them it still does not load. I get a black screen when loading client and that is all. I have uninstalled and deleted all settings in the app data and documents folders and it did not help. The only thing that worked was when I reformatted the server for another issue I was having. So obviously there is some setting somewhere that EVE is looking at otherwise why would only a reformat fix it and not removing files / uninstall. Anyone have ideas if there are other locations or hidden registry entries it is looking at and loading the bad settings?


I never needed registry settings for EVE to work, on the other hand, I can't tell you with 100% certainty that there are no ( redundant ) EVE related registry settings.

Ascendic
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.09.08 14:42:00 - [10]
 

The desktop experience is enabled and I can play other games like DDO no problems. The client used to work until I copied settings from my win 7 pc. After a reformat it worked again but without realizing it was the settings causing the issue I copied them again and messed it up lol. The logserver was run and the GM's even looked at it and said it was the font file which it says. I copy the font file missing from the win 7 pc to the server and it still has the error.

okst666
Posted - 2010.09.08 16:32:00 - [11]
 

Did you just copy the fontfile to the fonts-directory or have you installed it properly?

Font files have to be installed. I think the font is then registered in the fontcache.

Rightclick on the fontfile and select install in the contextmenu.

Hope that works out for you.


Max Romeo
Posted - 2010.09.08 16:46:00 - [12]
 

Run it in a sandbox and grab its registry if you're interested in what it touches for future use. If you just want to know what it touches/looks for use regmon and filemon (procexp doesnt hurt either) from sysinternals(now microsoft, but its all freeware).

I remember black screen issues on a fresh client install that was only resolved by unpacking the full install over it, I didnt keep a record of file hashes, but I dont know if the unpacker gets it right all the time.

Other than that, make sure the power service is running (tho if you want to have working sound chances are you already have it running).

Black screen issues are a strange beast.

Ascendic
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.09.08 22:47:00 - [13]
 

the font file auto installed when I copied it. I double checked it and windows says the font is installed already. I will try the sandbox and/or reg mon

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2010.09.08 22:49:00 - [14]
 

Try running the repair tool too. You know, just in case.

Caminja
Posted - 2010.09.08 22:53:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Caminja on 08/09/2010 22:52:53

Barakkus
Posted - 2010.09.08 23:16:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Barakkus on 08/09/2010 23:17:42
Are you sure directx is installed? Server 2003 doesn't just come with directx, I had to manually install it.

Might help if you ran dxdiag so we could see what your directx says about your system too.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2010.09.08 23:36:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Akita T on 08/09/2010 23:37:04
Better said, if you have an DX10/11-native OS, EVE still might not run "out of the box" since it doesn't contain all the DX9 files that EVE needs (or at least they're not registering properly), you have to install the latest DX-redist package (the websetup one might fail to install properly).
The EVE repair tool does do the needed DX9 updates too after checking client integrity, AFAIK.

Ascendic
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.09.09 01:38:00 - [18]
 

Yes it is installed Bara, DDO is a dx10 game and it is running dx10.

Ascendic
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.09.09 02:03:00 - [19]
 

ran repair, fixed some things, still borked.

Ascendic
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.09.09 15:35:00 - [20]
 

any other ideas?

Sky Marshal
IMpAct Corp
Not Found.
Posted - 2010.09.09 19:13:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: Sky Marshal on 09/09/2010 19:18:56

EVE Online has only one or two keys in the registry. And they are useless, so useless that you can make EVE work just after a format if the client was in an another partition, without had to modify registry or whatever. It is better to keep your settings file if you don't want redo all the bookmark classification, but still, it work out-the-box.

For me, it sound like an hardware fault.

You can have a stable system even with faulty RAMs, but get few troubles in specific cases like the one you actually encounter. I accused wrongly CCP one day because of a problem of corrupted EVE installers, and even if apparently the system was alright (games was fine etc...), Memtest+ confirmed that it wasn't. My RAMs corrupted the downloaded files.

I suggest you to make a test.

Ascendic
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.09.09 23:35:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Sky Marshal
Edited by: Sky Marshal on 09/09/2010 19:18:56

EVE Online has only one or two keys in the registry. And they are useless, so useless that you can make EVE work just after a format if the client was in an another partition, without had to modify registry or whatever. It is better to keep your settings file if you don't want redo all the bookmark classification, but still, it work out-the-box.

For me, it sound like an hardware fault.

You can have a stable system even with faulty RAMs, but get few troubles in specific cases like the one you actually encounter. I accused wrongly CCP one day because of a problem of corrupted EVE installers, and even if apparently the system was alright (games was fine etc...), Memtest+ confirmed that it wasn't. My RAMs corrupted the downloaded files.

I suggest you to make a test.


What you dont understand is the client worked fine until copying settings files from my other pc. The other pc runs at a different resolution as well and maybe be part of the problem if the client is trying to launch at a resolution that is unsupported. There is no hardware fault.

Taedrin
Gallente
Kushan Industrial
Posted - 2010.09.09 23:53:00 - [23]
 

Backup the settings file and try deleting it then. Usually if you do something, and it breaks after you do that something, that something is the issue causing the problem (*cough* stealth Dominion whine *cough*)

Ascendic
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.09.10 04:56:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Taedrin
Backup the settings file and try deleting it then. Usually if you do something, and it breaks after you do that something, that something is the issue causing the problem (*cough* stealth Dominion whine *cough*)


I already said I did a complete uninstall and removed ALL settings files including deleting the eve folder and app data eve folders. It is still loading settings from somewhere else

Lana Torrin
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2010.09.10 06:59:00 - [25]
 

Nuke the site from orbit, its the only way to be sure..

(also don't run a server OS as a gaming box?? Like seriously Windows 7 is good)

Ban Doga
Posted - 2010.09.10 07:04:00 - [26]
 

Have you tried moving your EVE installation to a different directory?

As far as I know all settings are specific for the installation directory, so changing that should give you a clean environment with default settings.

Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
Posted - 2010.09.10 07:10:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Lana Torrin
Like seriously Windows 7 is good



It's the exact same kernel and system requirements as Vista. They just slapped a new coat of paint on it because someone convinced the gullible public that Vista causes computers to burst into flames.

I'll just leave that there as i head off to bed.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.09.10 08:01:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Originally by: Lana Torrin
Like seriously Windows 7 is good
It's the exact same kernel and system requirements as Vista. They just slapped a new coat of paint on it because someone convinced the gullible public that Vista causes computers to burst into flames.

I'll just leave that there as i head off to bed.
It is to Vista what XP was to 2000.

Also, Microsoft has had time to curbstomp any incompetent developers who still can't program for a limited-mode/sandboxed environment, which was one of the main problems with Vista: MS-centric programmers had picked up two decades worth of bad habits and assumptions, which made their useless software not work within a better, more constricted security model. Slowly, they've begun to learn…

MrYiff
The Industrial Consortium
Posted - 2010.09.10 10:03:00 - [29]
 

Have a look in your %appdata% folder (just type that in the address bar and it will work), many programs install config related stuff into there, there is probably a CCP folder that has some additional settings you can delete. Deleting the whole folder should be fine if there is one called CCP as anything in the App Data folder should be runtime generated if it doesn't already exist.

Cpt Stefi
Minmatar
IDEON ANDRON
Angel's Charlys
Posted - 2010.09.10 10:15:00 - [30]
 

hi there!


maybe my idea is crap but you never know...
are you running the client as administrator?
do you have any rights on the folder of EVE?
if you use a user and you recently changed his access and he can not have access to those folder.

it is just an opinion.

have a nice day.


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