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Lister829
Gallente
Black Sheep Crew
Posted - 2010.08.30 02:50:00 - [1]
 

Had to share this setup because I could not believe it worked as well as it did.

High Sec Improved Command Center with single full production Mechanical Parts processor running on 23 hour cycle.
Total Noble Metals production = 3047 units / 30 min
Total Base Metals production = 3077 units / 30 min

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Tyranny Ebonix
Posted - 2010.08.30 05:35:00 - [2]
 

I'm using a similar setup, but I blossom out my extractors to where the best extraction is coming from and setup the processors on the low yield side.

Brian Ballsack
Posted - 2010.08.30 12:09:00 - [3]
 

looks nice, but how much does it actually make ?
im guessing peanuts

Panhead4411
Posted - 2010.08.30 14:47:00 - [4]
 

I follow what Ebonix said, group your mines on the hot spot, then put the refineries where they fit best on the outside.

Also, incase you haven't noticed, the yields on planets is slowly dropping (as more ppl jump on each planet, overall yield on entire planet seems to drop). So, this may work for now, but in a few weeks expect a decent drop that may just put kink in your lines.

I try to have a buffer zone, if nothing else, it will eventually build up to where i don't have to task for a day.

Mike TheMiner
Posted - 2010.08.30 15:28:00 - [5]
 

Wonders how many people see this and go build identical commend centres on top.

Glyken Touchon
Gallente
Independent Alchemists
Posted - 2010.08.30 15:39:00 - [6]
 

Wouldn't suprise me if extractors grouped that closely together mined the area out faster than if they are spread out a bit.

trade off between short/long term setups.

Dzil
Caldari
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
The Fourth District
Posted - 2010.08.30 16:31:00 - [7]
 

I haven't yet noticed any falloff in my extractors for clumping them.

Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2010.08.30 19:43:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Brian Ballsack
looks nice, but how much does it actually make ?
im guessing peanuts


He's making 5 mechanical parts per hour which sell easily for 6k a unit. 30k/hr is 720k/day or 21m/month. 21m/month is peanuts and 720k a day is like 1-2 high sec mission BS rats but the way he sets it up it is very much passive income. Resetting those extractors may take 2 mins and hauling 450 m3 every 2-3 days to empty the PCC and then like a once a month trip to jita in a hauler to sell.

21m/month per planet and he probably spent no more than 4m total setting it up. Not bad for something that doesn't require much effort. I would like to have room for a launchpad so I have to do even less work but other than that it is a real nice setup.

Dzil
Caldari
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
The Fourth District
Posted - 2010.08.30 20:33:00 - [9]
 

Serious, non troll question: is 8:1 extractors:processors normal in high sec?

I only fiddled with PI in nullsec, and I'm used to seeing 1500-2000. Wherein you use a lot more processors and less extractors.

rain9441
Big Head Want Dolly
Posted - 2010.08.30 20:49:00 - [10]
 

Extractors -> Launchpad
Launchpad -> Processors
Processors -> Launchpad

Where is your launchpad and why are you directly linking extractors to processors?

D+

Xiturb
Posted - 2010.08.30 21:27:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Xiturb on 30/08/2010 21:27:38

Henry Haphorn
Gallente
Posted - 2010.08.31 04:39:00 - [12]
 

I have somewhat a similar setup with my PI colonies. In fact, to be honest, you don't really need to connect any of them to your command center. Your extractors, processors and launch pads can still operate without a direct link to the command center (seriously, try it yourself). This saves up a little bit of CPU and Powergrid due to one less link.

But overall, I suggest you disconnect the command center from the advanced processor and have the mechanical parts routed to a launchpad so that you can safely export them into the customs office without having to worry about some stranger stealing your loot that was launched randomly by the command center.

Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2010.08.31 05:29:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Dzil
Serious, non troll question: is 8:1 extractors:processors normal in high sec?

I only fiddled with PI in nullsec, and I'm used to seeing 1500-2000. Wherein you use a lot more processors and less extractors.



For stuff like noble metals, yeah it is that bad in high sec. The more common stuff will have 6:1 or even 4:1 in high sec but the more common stuff is worth less of course.

Tyranny Ebonix
Posted - 2010.08.31 07:05:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: rain9441
Extractors -> Launchpad
Launchpad -> Processors
Processors -> Launchpad

Where is your launchpad and why are you directly linking extractors to processors?

D+


Oh yes, putting the command center into the cluster is pointless. It's handy to have close to your colony, but use a launchpad as the focus point.

Nii Ness
The OUTER LIMITS Inc.
Posted - 2010.08.31 16:49:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Nii Ness on 31/08/2010 16:49:43
This is my setup and its the best I can come up with. Mind you the extractors are over the high yield areas

PI

Verkala Ven
Posted - 2010.08.31 19:08:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Nii Ness
Edited by: Nii Ness on 31/08/2010 16:49:43
This is my setup and its the best I can come up with. Mind you the extractors are over the high yield areas

PI

Your storage unit is pointless. Get rid of it, put the launch pad where the storage is, and use it for storage.

There also isn't any reason to have a link to your command center.

Berikath
Posted - 2010.08.31 19:38:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Verkala Ven
Originally by: Nii Ness
Edited by: Nii Ness on 31/08/2010 16:49:43
This is my setup and its the best I can come up with. Mind you the extractors are over the high yield areas

PI

Your storage unit is pointless. Get rid of it, put the launch pad where the storage is, and use it for storage.

There also isn't any reason to have a link to your command center.



To go in a little bit more detail:

1. Nobody runs out of CPU on planets. Ever.
2. Storage and launchpads cost the same powergrid.
3. Launchpads have twice the space.
4. Launchpads don't require messing around with expedited transfers.

Use the launchpad. If your launchpad runs out of space, use a second launchpad.

Nii Ness
The OUTER LIMITS Inc.
Posted - 2010.09.01 00:41:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Verkala Ven
Originally by: Nii Ness
Edited by: Nii Ness on 31/08/2010 16:49:43
This is my setup and its the best I can come up with. Mind you the extractors are over the high yield areas

PI

Your storage unit is pointless. Get rid of it, put the launch pad where the storage is, and use it for storage.

There also isn't any reason to have a link to your command center.



The reasoning for the storage is for finished goods, Sorry should have explained that. Sometimes I find that I will fill up my launchpad with unfinished and have no room for the finished so this seems to work out the best for both worlds, Also never thought about the link to the CC, guess it was just habit, thx for the pointer.

Blackmarxz
Posted - 2010.09.08 22:16:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Blackmarxz on 08/09/2010 22:17:10
I have noticed issues trying to get extractors to route though each other

I can set up links that go through multiple extractors, but when I try to set up a route I get a error message of something along the lines of Union says no" etc ;P

Is it that the links get overheated, and I have to upgrade them as I'm on a reasonably high yield spot, or do I have set up the route in order? (ie closer to to final destination rather than the back)

Doesn't seem that I have more than 5 pins in one series of links

Cheers

Tessty
Posted - 2010.09.08 23:44:00 - [20]
 

Here's mine on WH world: PI-WH-SETUP
This is making Rocket Fuel for me.

Split setup, extractors only pulling one resource, I import the other resource from another world in the WH.

extractors >> launch pad
launch pad >> basic processor
basic processor >> launch pad
launch pad >> advance processor
advance processor >> 3rd launch pad

this site is producing 20 Rocket Fuel an hour and runs non-stop.
I restart the extractors each night, restock the other resource every five days.

I have three of these running in the system now.
that's about 1400 units of fuel per day. yummy

Onker
Minmatar
Infinite Improbability Inc
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2010.09.09 01:48:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Blackmarxz
Edited by: Blackmarxz on 08/09/2010 22:17:10
I have noticed issues trying to get extractors to route though each other

I can set up links that go through multiple extractors, but when I try to set up a route I get a error message of something along the lines of Union says no" etc ;P

Is it that the links get overheated, and I have to upgrade them as I'm on a reasonably high yield spot, or do I have set up the route in order? (ie closer to to final destination rather than the back)

Doesn't seem that I have more than 5 pins in one series of links

Cheers


Are you upgrading the links to make sure they're able to carry all the materials? Check your link capacities, make sure you've got the pipe to handle what's coming through.

Naz Mort
Posted - 2010.09.11 01:38:00 - [22]
 

I upgraded my links a notch, but still seem to have issues in that I can link extractors, but not route them/ Perhaps an effect of having a level 5 skill'?, as I'm only on level 4 on most atm'

Message is - (Invalid: Cannot route to extractors)

Somewhat frustrating as I'd like my set-ups to be prettier :)

Cheers

Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2010.09.11 03:08:00 - [23]
 

Why do you want to route to an extractor? Extractors only output, they do not accept any inputs. Factories, storage and your pcc are the only things you can route to or would ever want to route to.

Naz Mort
Posted - 2010.09.11 06:25:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Vaal Erit
Why do you want to route to an extractor? Extractors only output, they do not accept any inputs. Factories, storage and your pcc are the only things you can route to or would ever want to route to.


The pictures above seem to link extractors. I presume the route through them as well - or perhaps the official rote selection is the spaceport still.

Cheers

Onker
Minmatar
Infinite Improbability Inc
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2010.09.11 07:45:00 - [25]
 

You can link a chain of extractors, and route over them to the launchpad. I typically do a chain of 3-4 and you only have to upgrade the 2 links closest to the launchpad. Then again, if you're doing 23 hour cycles in highsec, you shouldn't even have to consider upgrading links.

I vaguely recall once having an error message when I tried to do more than 5 in a series. But after I went the 3-4 route, never had a problem again.

Verkala Ven
Posted - 2010.09.13 21:20:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Naz Mort
The pictures above seem to link extractors. I presume the route through them as well - or perhaps the official rote selection is the spaceport still.

Your last bit hits it.

You create a route from a source to a destination. The system will pick the specific links that are used to accomplish that.


 

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