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Spineker
Caldari
Posted - 2010.08.30 02:27:00 - [31]
 

Edited by: Spineker on 30/08/2010 02:30:30

Originally by: Moose Burger
I dont buy this

- Every faction has at least 32 unique missions. not 10.
- It takes on average 300 minutes to finish all mission once. That means you will probably get unique missions which lasts 5 hours.

- Why mission completion items is white? Well, if mission completion is in a can, highly likely the building drops 2 cans. Apparently CCP loves to put in the luck factor. You might get drugs, or damsel in your first try. While being pounded by insane ammounts of "final spawn" NPC.


Don't buy what? I don't remember selling anything. WOW 32 missions, L1 L2 L3 L4. Are you ignorant or just stupid? I run the same old tired 10 missions over and over. Hell seems more like 6 missions, because the missions are the same ones over and over and over.

300 mins to finish a mission? What are you flying a ****ing frigate? 300 MINUTES? Are you serious? I can finish damn near any mission in 120 mins MAX. We are talking Worlds Collide and returning to check on Overseer which is a 15 min travel time. All other under 100 mins. most under 60 mins

You have no idea what you are blathering about.

Do you have any idea how many repeat missions WOW or WAR or DOAC had?

Spineker
Caldari
Posted - 2010.08.30 02:35:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Builder Robert
You know, being such a veteran you could just drop the mission and try not to do the same thing again, learn from your mistakes (because you did make one) and don't try and blame your failures on something like this which you've known about for 5 or 6 years and is so easy to avoid doing.



Yes it was my fault I admit that and I stated as such to CS and they denied my request and I accept that also. But when people asked for something so simple 5 to 7 years ago you would think such a simpel request would be ok.

I never blamed my failures on anyone perhaps your reading is not up to par?

MY POINT IS AND WILL REMAIN SUCH is that CCP needs to work on PVE simple as that. Trying to force people into PVP is stupid, this could be the best game ever if they would just stop trying to nerf PVE over and over and over which anyone who has been here a few years will know as fact. I will go to 0.0 when I chose to, I will fight in the Militia when I chose to. The constant nerfing of highsec is just stupid.

Spineker
Caldari
Posted - 2010.08.30 02:39:00 - [33]
 

My point is and reamains so, CCP needs to do something about PVE and it is simple as that. I mean they even destroyed Exploration...

Yes I have seen the old tired L4 missions for years they are tiring and stupid. How ****ing hard is it to set aside a few people to make new ones? Let us assume 32 missions as Moose stated, after 5 6 years? Are you ****ting me? How many thousands of quest does other MMO's have? Thousands....1000+

Spineker
Caldari
Posted - 2010.08.30 02:50:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Glyken Touchon
also check contracts- you may be lucky and find that the mission item is up for sale somewhere.


That is a good idea and I did but no small sealer containers....

Spineker
Caldari
Posted - 2010.08.30 02:54:00 - [35]
 

Edited by: Spineker on 30/08/2010 02:56:51

Originally by: Tippia
It wasn't 11% unless you're doing something very odd. More likely, it was somewhere in the 3–5% range.


Perhaps you are playing a different game? It is 11% static basline tax. Caldari Provisions is 11.0 % tax rate... How hard is it to understand?

If you don't know what you are talkign about perhaps shutting the **** up is the best solution?

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2010.08.30 03:51:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Spineker
Edited by: Spineker on 30/08/2010 02:56:51

Originally by: Tippia
It wasn't 11% unless you're doing something very odd. More likely, it was somewhere in the 3–5% range.


Perhaps you are playing a different game? It is 11% static basline tax. Caldari Provisions is 11.0 % tax rate... How hard is it to understand?

If you don't know what you are talkign about perhaps shutting the **** up is the best solution?


FYI, you are comedy gold. Laughing

-Liang

Spineker
Caldari
Posted - 2010.08.30 04:19:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Spineker
Edited by: Spineker on 30/08/2010 02:56:51

Originally by: Tippia
It wasn't 11% unless you're doing something very odd. More likely, it was somewhere in the 3–5% range.


Perhaps you are playing a different game? It is 11% static basline tax. Caldari Provisions is 11.0 % tax rate... How hard is it to understand?

If you don't know what you are talkign about perhaps shutting the **** up is the best solution?


FYI, you are comedy gold. Laughing

-Liang


No you were just wrong and shown to be so as you often are.

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2010.08.30 04:30:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Spineker
No you were just wrong and shown to be so as you often are.


I haven't even commented in this thread... except to say that you are comedy gold. Razz

-Liang

Ifly Uwalk
Caldari
Concentrated Evil
Posted - 2010.08.30 05:49:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Spineker
Edited by: Spineker on 30/08/2010 02:56:51

Originally by: Tippia
It wasn't 11% unless you're doing something very odd. More likely, it was somewhere in the 3–5% range.


Perhaps you are playing a different game? It is 11% static basline tax. Caldari Provisions is 11.0 % tax rate... How hard is it to understand?

If you don't know what you are talkign about perhaps shutting the **** up is the best solution?


FYI, you are comedy gold. Laughing

-Liang

Moose Burger
Posted - 2010.08.30 06:06:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Spineker
Edited by: Spineker on 30/08/2010 02:30:30

Originally by: Moose Burger
I dont buy this

- Every faction has at least 32 unique missions. not 10.
- It takes on average 300 minutes to finish all mission once. That means you will probably get unique missions which lasts 5 hours.

- Why mission completion items is white? Well, if mission completion is in a can, highly likely the building drops 2 cans. Apparently CCP loves to put in the luck factor. You might get drugs, or damsel in your first try. While being pounded by insane ammounts of "final spawn" NPC.


Don't buy what? I don't remember selling anything. WOW 32 missions, L1 L2 L3 L4. Are you ignorant or just stupid? I run the same old tired 10 missions over and over. Hell seems more like 6 missions, because the missions are the same ones over and over and over.

300 mins to finish a mission? What are you flying a ****ing frigate? 300 MINUTES? Are you serious? I can finish damn near any mission in 120 mins MAX. We are talking Worlds Collide and returning to check on Overseer which is a 15 min travel time. All other under 100 mins. most under 60 mins

You have no idea what you are blathering about.

Do you have any idea how many repeat missions WOW or WAR or DOAC had?


Let me repeat myself since maybe your comprehension is really bad .

- There are at least 32 unique Lv 4 missions. Not 10.
- To finish all 32 unique lv 4 missions once, you need at least 300 minutes. Not one. I said 32. You need 300 minutes to finish 32 missions. I hope you understand english.

Now you said 10 unique missions, 6 mission, blabla.
Prove it.

Anne Alingus
Posted - 2010.08.30 06:10:00 - [41]
 

Carebear tears really are the sweetest.

That being said, they could add a few new missions. They are ridiculously simple to code.

p.s. Ragebear, can I have your stuff?

Kimmi Chan
Caldari
Posted - 2010.08.30 06:33:00 - [42]
 

This thread, if steeped in hot water, becomes pure win juice.

Seriously, if you're going to get this bent out of shape about something as simple as this, you may want to just take a step back. You can see that there are few, if any, of your fellow capsuleers agreeing with you or your rant. I would also say that there is little chance of them ever agreeing with you.

On the bright side there is another mission for you to complete whether it be here or in WoW or DAOC. Go get 'em tiger.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.08.30 08:35:00 - [43]
 

Edited by: Tippia on 30/08/2010 09:19:58
Originally by: Spineker
Don't buy what? I don't remember selling anything. WOW 32 missions, L1 L2 L3 L4. Are you ignorant or just stupid? I run the same old tired 10 missions over and over. Hell seems more like 6 missions, because the missions are the same ones over and over and over.
Again, have you tried changing agents? The one I work for readily gives me access to 40+ missions that are cycled through. I only choose to do maybe half of them because the rest are terminally boring or contrary to my interests in some way. Either way, that's a restriction I put on the game content, not a restriction on the content itself.

My guess is that it's the same for you: you choose to only run 10 specific missions, and then complain that the game is restricted, just like you blamed the game mechanics for the actions you took to destroy your precious mission objective.

For the record, there are just over 100 regular agent L4 kill missions. This doesn't count epics, COSMOS, couriers, trade, mining, storyline, factional warfare or data centres — just the ones your normal, every-day corp agent give you to go out and pew pew poor NPCs.
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300 mins to finish a mission? What are you flying a ****ing frigate? 300 MINUTES?
300 minutes to finish the 32 missions. That's <10 minutes each. Are you really that bad at maths?
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Do you have any idea how many repeat missions WOW or WAR or DOAC had?
Who cares? Those are storyline PvE-centric game, completely unlike EVE. If that's the kind of comparison you want to make, do you have any idea how many non-repeat missions Elite had? It made those games look like afternoon-sun-with-rum-drinks rush jobs…
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MY POINT IS AND WILL REMAIN SUCH is that CCP needs to work on PVE simple as that. Trying to force people into PVP is stupid, this could be the best game ever if they would just stop trying to nerf PVE over and over and over which anyone who has been here a few years will know as fact.
They are working on PvE. You just choose not to do it. They also aren't nerfing it — quite the opposite: they're expanding it in every way imaginable.
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The constant nerfing of highsec is just stupid.
Provide an example.
Originally by: Spineker
Originally by: Tippia
It wasn't 11% unless you're doing something very odd. More likely, it was somewhere in the 3–5% range.
Perhaps you are playing a different game? It is 11% static basline tax. Caldari Provisions is 11.0 % tax rate... How hard is it to understand?
It was a standard corp tax of 11%. Do you know what the corp tax affects in relation to missions? Bounties and mission rewards of over 100k ISK. Unless you're doing something horribly horribly wrong this means that, at most, 50% of your mission income is subject to the tax, and in all likelyhood, it's actually closer to 30%. As a result, no, it is not in any way, shape or form a "11% nerf to [your] money making being in a NPC corp" — it's about 3–5%…

…or maybe you're just bad at maths again.

Flex Nebura
Caldari
Posted - 2010.08.30 09:41:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: Spineker
Originally by: Flesh Slurper
Wait till after downtime, and the mission rats and loot will reset. You can then go back to the mission site and "redo" it. Sure you will loose the bonus for completing it fast, but you will get the objective item.


Good idea however according to CCP "A mission will also not respawn when the mission objective is destroyed. I am afraid that we cannot be of any assistance."

Now most common missions before you finish them will respawn but if the item needed is destroyed no it will not. According to CCP. So as CCP states people can just destroy your mission container and grief you on every mission it is required. What problem I have is that CCP after 7 years or so still can't make mission containers Blue or some color? It is just too ****ing hard to make them a different color or something... Which people asked for 5 years ago to make it clear.


You already said that the reason you shot the can in the first place was that you accidently minimized your overview while targeting and had your missiles set to fire..... No amount of colour coding can help you in that case.

Cyniac
Gallente
Twilight Star Rangers
Posted - 2010.08.31 11:42:00 - [45]
 

Tip - leave your NPC corp, make a standalone corp (You might need to train corp management to I - takes maybe 10 minutes or so) set tax rate to 0% or to 100% if you like (you get to keep all the cash anyhow).

It might help solve part of your issue.

Yes - some missions can be griefed. This is by design not by mistake. I don't like it much when it happens to me, but I do have to say it does add a small and welcome element of uncertainty in some situtations.

And just to confirm - if you want new missions try working for a different agent. You could be pleasantly surprised.

Aron Iceland
The Athiest Syndicate
Advocated Destruction
Posted - 2010.09.01 00:36:00 - [46]
 

This must be the dumbest mofo there is XD Jebus bloody Chribus . . . .

Also , the way you type reminds me of that prick from the TANK ceo vid from ages ago :D

Kalidorius
Posted - 2010.09.01 01:36:00 - [47]
 

holy christ, dude you need to relax. if you think the game is that bad then dont play it, quit your whineing and move on. so what you poped ONE can from ONE mission, i thought eve was ment to keep the WoW morons out Rolling Eyes


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