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Lucyna
Interstellar Killer Bee Enterprises
Posted - 2010.08.26 17:12:00 - [1]
 

Hello all. I've pulled together some thoughts we had in MD (yeah, that place) and came up with some easy, and some not so easy new features, changes, and fixes. Basically, one draw of EVE is it's player-driven economy. Why not highlight it and smooth out all the wrinkles?

  • Overhaul of the system through which I update orders.

  • Wallet orders section blended with the market and made more streamlined.

  • Your orders marked to indicate they are yours.

  • Out of game, CCP hosted market database that works with IGB that is delayed a week (so pulling historical data wouldn't be hard, but you still need to be in game to get the latest prices.


For the market history tab:

  • configurable time-span, from 7 days to 5 years

  • manual data pruning (exclude all values above N, below M)

  • configurable automatic data pruning (show everything inside n-sigma from the mean)


  • Deliver All Option on the corporation assets tab (makes region wide buy-orders less of a click-fest), or maybe better yet, sell directly from the deliveries tab.

  • Move the Cancel Order button, pretty please.

mathsucks
Posted - 2010.08.26 19:19:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: mathsucks on 27/08/2010 08:13:10
Supported...especially the "cancel order" button...make it a confirm like a fleet kick or something! :)

Lucyna
Interstellar Killer Bee Enterprises
Posted - 2010.08.26 20:21:00 - [3]
 

I support this product and/or service.

Thoraxe Rig
Gallente
Posted - 2010.08.26 22:24:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Lucyna
I support this product and/or service.


Of course YOU support it, it's your proposal!


Durin Sarga
Posted - 2010.08.26 22:40:00 - [5]
 

Support

Mynxee
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2010.08.29 02:19:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Mynxee on 29/08/2010 02:19:34
Originally by: Lucyna
  • Overhaul of the system through which I update orders.

  • Wallet orders section blended with the market and made more streamlined.



Can you provide more detail about what you mean by "overhaul" and "streamline" in the above two items? Give some examples in the form of problem/solution, maybe?


Lucyna
Interstellar Killer Bee Enterprises
Posted - 2010.09.03 09:44:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Mynxee
Edited by: Mynxee on 29/08/2010 02:19:34
Originally by: Lucyna
  • Overhaul of the system through which I update orders.

  • Wallet orders section blended with the market and made more streamlined.



Can you provide more detail about what you mean by "overhaul" and "streamline" in the above two items? Give some examples in the form of problem/solution, maybe?




Sure:

1st point - Overhaul the system which I place orders.

Currently, to place an order, I have to (a) find an item, (b) click a button, (c) :THE IMPORTANT PART: navigate another open window, (d) change the price which is automatically set to the lowest sell at the particular station or the regional average, both of which are usually not what traders want, (e) set specifics, then (f) confirm the order.

(c)-(e) can perhaps be made a bit better, especially the default price. Maybe the window could have more info or be integrated with the market tab, which leads me to my next point.

I feel like the market window can hold the orders section of the wallet (it sort of does, but it's clunky, because you can't see the orders and the market for a particular item at the same time). If there was an easier way to put these side by side, and maybe a one-click view-market orders from the "personal"- or "Corp"-orders section (instead of right-click on your order > view market orders), that would make things a lot easier. Plus, it'd be nice to have available funds (like the total currently in personal and (if you have access) corp wallet) visible on the market window.

These are just a few thoughts, I don't like the experience and the tediousness of things in the market. If PI taught us anything, it's the less clicks the better.

Mini Tee
Posted - 2010.09.03 16:56:00 - [8]
 

Yeah like when you see the market orders of an item, have yours highlighted and then just right click your order and be able to change it.

Stick Cult
Posted - 2010.09.03 19:56:00 - [9]
 

"Blending the Market window and Orders window."

No, thanks. Corporation orders are in the market window, and it is a pain to switch between the tabs and stuff, I'd much rather keep them separate windows.

What about being able to modify Corporation orders? Would that be OP?

Maxsim Goratiev
Gallente
Imperial Tau Syndicate
POD-SQUAD
Posted - 2010.09.04 13:45:00 - [10]
 


ChrisIsherwood
Posted - 2010.09.04 22:14:00 - [11]
 


Abdiel Kavash
Caldari
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
Posted - 2010.09.05 03:37:00 - [12]
 

At the very least make EVE remember whether I want to use the "simple" or "advanced" mode to place orders. Hint, I want the second one. Make it a checkbox somewhere, or make the "remember settings" button remember that setting too.

Selling process now:

- right-click an item
- click Sell
- click Advanced
- click the icon to show market details
- enter price
- tab out to see if I got the number of zeros right
- confirm.

Proposed:

- right-click an item
- click Sell, Advanced mode and market details open automatically (as per my settings)
- enter price, the thousands separators appear automatically (as in every other piece of software on this planet)
- confirm.



Second proposal - make it possible to filter the orders window by more options; specifically at least add the option to ignore orders by station / system. I am trading in two or three stations in my region, I don't need to see orders elsewhere (unless I specifically ask for it to compare prices). I most definitely don't need to see the orders in an outpost owned by an enemy alliance.



Third proposal - right-click > Show Contracts.

Mr Minnah
Caldari
Posted - 2010.11.16 21:30:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Mr Minnah on 16/11/2010 21:30:05
Most of it makes sense and I would support the ideas if you would unbundle them. For instance, I don't know what the "deliver all" thing is about.


 

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