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Rpeg
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2010.08.21 03:41:00 - [181]
 

Edited by: Rpeg on 21/08/2010 03:41:35
Originally by: Akita T
Edited by: Akita T on 21/08/2010 03:39:25
Originally by: Rpeg
If you're upset that some people automatically assume it's negative, that's a separate issue.

That's actually the ONLY issue I was ever talking about, and I have been stating that much repeatedly.
Quote:
It's wrong to always assume it's negative but don't be ignorant enough to think that some people wont become confused, uncomfortable or come with baggage causing them to assume negative meaning.

And in that particular case, if your assumption that the n-word can be used in some circumstances is valid, I would expect them to chill the hell up when they're told it was not meant offensively.

P.S. The OP didn't. And that's how this thread got started.


IT'S A FALSE AND MANIPULATIVE ASSUMPTION. I KNOW IT'S WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. EVERYONE HERE ACTS LIKE ALL BLACK PEOPLE GO AROUND CALLING EVERYONE RACIST IF THE WORD IS UTTERED. READ MY WORDS AND LEAVE YOU ASSUMPTIONS AT THE DOOR KID.

Sajad
Posted - 2010.08.21 03:44:00 - [182]
 

Originally by: Rpeg
Edited by: Rpeg on 21/08/2010 03:41:35
IT'S A FALSE AND MANIPULATIVE ASSUMPTION. I KNOW IT'S WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. EVERYONE HERE ACTS LIKE ALL BLACK PEOPLE GO AROUND CALLING EVERYONE RACIST IF THE WORD IS UTTERED. READ MY WORDS AND LEAVE YOU ASSUMPTIONS AT THE DOOR KID.


U mad bro?

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2010.08.21 03:44:00 - [183]
 

Edited by: Akita T on 21/08/2010 03:50:38

Originally by: Rpeg
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Rpeg
If you're upset that some people automatically assume it's negative, that's a separate issue.

That's actually the ONLY issue I was ever talking about, and I have been stating that much repeatedly.
Quote:
It's wrong to always assume it's negative but don't be ignorant enough to think that some people wont become confused, uncomfortable or come with baggage causing them to assume negative meaning.

And in that particular case, if YOUR assumption that the n-word can be used in some circumstances is valid, I would expect them to chill the hell up when they're told it was not meant offensively.
P.S. The OP didn't. And that's how this thread got started.

IT'S A FALSE AND MANIPULATIVE ASSUMPTION. I KNOW IT'S WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. EVERYONE HERE ACTS LIKE ALL BLACK PEOPLE GO AROUND CALLING EVERYONE RACIST IF THE WORD IS UTTERED. READ MY WORDS AND LEAVE YOU ASSUMPTIONS AT THE DOOR KID.

It was YOUR assumption... one which I claimed had no merit.

The OP was told to drop it, he didn't.
Hence, in his eyes, either non-blacks can never use the word, or nobody can use the word at all.
Hence, either he was being hypocritical or your assumption was wrong as far as the OP was concerned.

DISCLAIMER : overly simplified argument to the point of borderline uselessness above.

Johan Moisander
Caldari
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2010.08.21 03:44:00 - [184]
 

Originally by: Rpeg
Edited by: Rpeg on 21/08/2010 03:41:35
Originally by: Akita T
Edited by: Akita T on 21/08/2010 03:39:25
Originally by: Rpeg
If you're upset that some people automatically assume it's negative, that's a separate issue.

That's actually the ONLY issue I was ever talking about, and I have been stating that much repeatedly.
Quote:
It's wrong to always assume it's negative but don't be ignorant enough to think that some people wont become confused, uncomfortable or come with baggage causing them to assume negative meaning.

And in that particular case, if your assumption that the n-word can be used in some circumstances is valid, I would expect them to chill the hell up when they're told it was not meant offensively.

P.S. The OP didn't. And that's how this thread got started.


IT'S A FALSE AND MANIPULATIVE ASSUMPTION. I KNOW IT'S WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. EVERYONE HERE ACTS LIKE ALL BLACK PEOPLE GO AROUND CALLING EVERYONE RACIST IF THE WORD IS UTTERED. READ MY WORDS AND LEAVE YOU ASSUMPTIONS AT THE DOOR KID.


mmm you've obviously NEVER MET BLACK PEOPLE if you think you can go around calling them ******... jackass

Rpeg
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2010.08.21 03:48:00 - [185]
 

Originally by: Johan Moisander



Rpeg doesn't seem to understand much... damnat non quad intellegent... (plato)


I understand more than you realize. if you'd like to learn more of what I understand we can talk more about this.

estevancarlos.com

You can contact me through there and try to give me your little bits of wisdom.

Johan Moisander
Caldari
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2010.08.21 03:50:00 - [186]
 

where do I type? all I see is pictures in like spanish or something

Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Sanctuary Pact
Posted - 2010.08.21 03:50:00 - [187]
 

I love taboo words, its like telling someone not to think of polar bears. Or passing and amendment to a constitution making alcohol illegal. Or like that time that guy said something should be forbidden and then everyone wanted to do it. Are you seeing the pattern here? Are you seeing why making this a big deal ensures that it will continue to not go away?

Nah, never mind, forget it. I'm just being insensitive.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2010.08.21 03:51:00 - [188]
 

Originally by: Halcyon Ingenium
I love taboo words, its like telling someone not to think of polar bears. Or passing and amendment to a constitution making alcohol illegal. Or like that time that guy said something should be forbidden and then everyone wanted to do it. Are you seeing the pattern here? Are you seeing why making this a big deal ensures that it will continue to not go away?
Nah, never mind, forget it. I'm just being insensitive.

You nagger ! Razz

Rpeg
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2010.08.21 03:53:00 - [189]
 

Edited by: Rpeg on 21/08/2010 03:53:23
Originally by: Johan Moisander
mmm you've obviously NEVER MET BLACK PEOPLE if you think you can go around calling them ******... jackass



And this is the problem. The problem is those who throw the racist accusation out callously and those who stereotype all black people as doing the same thing. If you're approaching this discussion with that attitude, that's your fault. I've never once accused anyone here of being racist. Take note of that.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2010.08.21 03:54:00 - [190]
 

Originally by: Johan Moisander
Originally by: Rpeg
stuff

you've obviously NEVER MET BLACK PEOPLE

He lives in a world with no mirrors !
Smile

Sajad
Posted - 2010.08.21 03:54:00 - [191]
 

Originally by: Rpeg
If you're approaching this discussion with attitude, that's your fault.


You have played EVE, haven't you?

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2010.08.21 03:57:00 - [192]
 

Originally by: Sajad
You have played EVE, haven't you?

I hear that game attracts all sorts of unsavory individuals, I wouldn't be caught dead in their company, so I avoid that game like the plague Twisted Evil

Johan Moisander
Caldari
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2010.08.21 03:58:00 - [193]
 

Originally by: Rpeg
Originally by: Johan Moisander



Rpeg doesn't seem to understand much... damnat non quad intellegent... (plato)


I understand more than you realize. if you'd like to learn more of what I understand we can talk more about this.

estevancarlos.com

You can contact me through there and try to give me your little bits of wisdom.


ok... looking through your website im a little disturbed, whats this supposed to be a gang mural? http://estevancarlos.com/?p=247


Rpeg
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2010.08.21 04:00:00 - [194]
 

Originally by: Johan Moisander
Originally by: Rpeg
Originally by: Johan Moisander



Rpeg doesn't seem to understand much... damnat non quad intellegent... (plato)


I understand more than you realize. if you'd like to learn more of what I understand we can talk more about this.

estevancarlos.com

You can contact me through there and try to give me your little bits of wisdom.


ok... looking through your website im a little disturbed, whats this supposed to be a gang mural? http://estevancarlos.com/?p=247




It's my artwork. Yes, I suppose some people find it disturbing. Let's save criticizing my artwork for another thread.

Johan Moisander
Caldari
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2010.08.21 04:02:00 - [195]
 

Originally by: Rpeg
Originally by: Johan Moisander
Originally by: Rpeg
Originally by: Johan Moisander



Rpeg doesn't seem to understand much... damnat non quad intellegent... (plato)


I understand more than you realize. if you'd like to learn more of what I understand we can talk more about this.

estevancarlos.com

You can contact me through there and try to give me your little bits of wisdom.


ok... looking through your website im a little disturbed, whats this supposed to be a gang mural? http://estevancarlos.com/?p=247




It's my artwork. Yes, I suppose some people find it disturbing. Let's save criticizing my artwork for another thread.


well we can continue discussing africanism here cuz im not giving some mexican narcotraficante my email address

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2010.08.21 04:04:00 - [196]
 

So wait a sec, you were black a couple of pages ago, now you're a mexican ?

Rpeg
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2010.08.21 04:04:00 - [197]
 

Originally by: Johan Moisander
well we can continue discussing africanism here cuz im not giving some mexican narcotraficante my email address



I'm not sure if I understand what you mean but that narco is me. I'm estevan. I'm black and mexican.

Syn Callibri
Minmatar
21st Eridani Lighthorse
Posted - 2010.08.21 04:05:00 - [198]
 

Edited by: Syn Callibri on 21/08/2010 04:09:38


I am offended by this thread dammit! I'm going to petition it for "stupidity, ignoance and cruelty to...to...to...well someone really important.Wink

I wonder if people offended by the "N" word and feel that caucasians not getting upset by "cracker", "white-boy", "white bread sucka", "honky", "white-devil", etc...have ever figured out that instead of them not being equally offensive to caucasians...it just not as big a deal to them as the "N" word.

<que dramatic music>

I mean...Im Irish and believe me there are plenty of "offensive" names heaped on top of the fact that I'm caucasian, guess what...

ITS NOT A BIG DEAL...GET OVER IT!

This is the 21st century, and contrary to popular belief...no one who was owned nor anyone that owned them IS ALIVE...drop it already!

Rolling Eyes

Sajad
Posted - 2010.08.21 04:07:00 - [199]
 

Originally by: Rpeg
Originally by: Johan Moisander
well we can continue discussing africanism here cuz im not giving some mexican narcotraficante my email address



I'm not sure if I understand what you mean but that narco is me. I'm estevan. I'm black and mexican.


He's blaxican Shocked

Johan Moisander
Caldari
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2010.08.21 04:07:00 - [200]
 

Originally by: Rpeg
Originally by: Johan Moisander
well we can continue discussing africanism here cuz im not giving some mexican narcotraficante my email address



I'm not sure if I understand what you mean but that narco is me. I'm estevan. I'm black and mexican.


Africans were never oppressed in mexico like they were in America because all mexicans are mixed, so it's no wonder you don't understand truly understand our struggle. Show some pride, white people do it, so can we!!

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2010.08.21 04:08:00 - [201]
 

Edited by: Akita T on 21/08/2010 04:08:50
Originally by: Syn Callibri
I wonder if people offended by the "N" word and feel that caucasians not getting upset by "cracker", "white-boy", "white bread sucka", "honky", "white-devil", etc...have ever figured out that instead of them not being equally offensive to caucasians...it just not as big a deal to them as the "N" word.

Now that you mention it, I am having difficulty imagining a word that describes "my race" (whatever you call generic white people) that I would find offensive (even mildly).
Somebody, quick, refresh my memory !

Rpeg
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2010.08.21 04:09:00 - [202]
 

Originally by: Syn Callibri
Edited by: Syn Callibri on 21/08/2010 04:06:15
I am offended by this thread dammit!



Get over it.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2010.08.21 04:11:00 - [203]
 

Edited by: Akita T on 21/08/2010 04:12:20
Originally by: Rpeg
Originally by: Syn Callibri
I am offended by this thread dammit!

Get over it.

Nah... he's building a bridge over it, some watchtowers and a nice cottage, taking residence, garrisoning the compound and charging a toll for by-passers.
THAT'S WHAT WHITE PEOPLE DO ! Laughing

Syn Callibri
Minmatar
21st Eridani Lighthorse
Posted - 2010.08.21 04:16:00 - [204]
 

Originally by: Johan Moisander
Originally by: Rpeg
Originally by: Johan Moisander
well we can continue discussing africanism here cuz im not giving some mexican narcotraficante my email address



I'm not sure if I understand what you mean but that narco is me. I'm estevan. I'm black and mexican.


Africans were never oppressed in mexico like they were in America because all mexicans are mixed, so it's no wonder you don't understand truly understand our struggle. Show some pride, white people do it, so can we!!


Hey genius, I have a little history lesson for you. During the time when the railroads were being construted from coast to coast there were three oppressed cultures...the "african americans" (most of which were actually Haitian-amaericans btw), the chinese, and the Irish. The "workers of color" were at the bottom rung of the social ladder and guess what...the Chinese and Irish were fighting it out for the rung below them...So now that the history lesson is over HTFU.


Johan Moisander
Caldari
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2010.08.21 04:19:00 - [205]
 

Edited by: Johan Moisander on 21/08/2010 04:22:05
Originally by: Rpeg
Originally by: Syn Callibri
Edited by: Syn Callibri on 21/08/2010 04:06:15
I am offended by this thread dammit!



Get over it.


Seriously you should look into the teachings of Clarence 13x, it really educated my mind and taught me SO much. I used to be self-hating and self destructive etc too, before I realized that we're all sacred man, we're all gods. Alot of young blacks struggle to find meaning and it's so sad when there's so much truth out there if you look for it!!

@ Syn hmmm FORGOT SLAVERY!?!?!

Sajad
Posted - 2010.08.21 04:21:00 - [206]
 

Hilarious stuff guys.

Keep it coming.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2010.08.21 04:26:00 - [207]
 

Edited by: Akita T on 21/08/2010 04:41:07

Originally by: Johan Moisander
@ Syn hmmm FORGOT SLAVERY!?!?!

Slavery : NOT JUST for black people ?
That reminds me... should I maybe feel threatened by the Turks then ? It's only been 200-ish years since then.

Originally by: Johan Moisander
Seriously you should look into the teachings of Clarence 13x, it really educated my mind and taught me SO much. I used to be a self-hating and self destructive etc too, before I realized that we're all sacred man, we're all gods. Alot of young blacks struggle to find meaning and it's so sad when there's so much truth out there if you look for it!!

Hmm... sounds oddly familiar.
"When you look long enough into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you."
Only by giving up attachments to old grudges (like, for instance, former racist oppression) can you truly become liberated and be your own man ?
And if you insist on holding on to those nasty threads of the past, you risk becoming yourself the oppressor in turn ?

Stick Cult
Posted - 2010.08.21 04:42:00 - [208]
 

Originally by: Rpeg
Originally by: Syn Callibri
Edited by: Syn Callibri on 21/08/2010 04:06:15
I am offended by this thread dammit!



Get over it.

You're still here? Oh my god...

Btw Akita, you're a cracker!

Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente
Sigma Special Tactics Group
Posted - 2010.08.21 04:43:00 - [209]
 

I am around 40, but I notice the younger crowd has a major bitter streak against "political correctness" for having it rammed down their throats so much.

Now when you get one of them started they go off an a rant that would make Michael Richards cringe.



Alara IonStorm
Caldari
Posted - 2010.08.21 04:44:00 - [210]
 

Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 21/08/2010 04:45:47
So this is the new Threadnaught to replace the European Game Awards debacle. If we ever wanted CCP's attention, this is the thread that will be the one that pulls it off.

Snipe

This was not intentional but win again, yay for waitin 20min to go for a smoke before postin.



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