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stoicfaux
Gallente
Posted - 2010.08.20 21:49:00 - [91]
 

Originally by: Atticus Fynch
How can you forget "HONKY?" That word is a classic. White bread sucka is also my fav.



Actually I think that's the problem. You can't really call a white person anything truly insulting. Honky, cue ball, whitey, etc. are just weak and only invokes a "if that's the best you can do, maybe there's some truth..." response.

The problem with the N word is that it has several centuries of hate and weight behind it. An inbred redneck living in a trailer park, with one tooth, a 3rd grade education, and who is married to his sister-mother, can throw the N word at a successful black doctor who just performed CPR on the redneck's daughter-cousin, and the redneck will, with all sincerity, believe that he is the doctor's superior.

As long as there's no white equivalent of the N word, there never will be 100% equality.


Dammit, now my beer has gotten warm.


Alara IonStorm
Caldari
Posted - 2010.08.20 21:49:00 - [92]
 

Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 20/08/2010 21:55:39
Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 20/08/2010 21:54:28
Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 20/08/2010 21:52:47
Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 20/08/2010 21:52:03
Originally by: Stick Cult
Add URL's to the list of things I hate


Wait till they delete my post for spam, back to page 3 with you. =p


Barakkus
Posted - 2010.08.20 21:50:00 - [93]
 

Edited by: Barakkus on 20/08/2010 21:50:16
Originally by: Ghoest
Race Minmatar
Bloodline Brutor
Ancest slave child
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Who is racist?


I resent that tyvm. Evil or Very Mad
I pity the fool...

Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
Posted - 2010.08.20 21:51:00 - [94]
 

Originally by: Stick Cult
Edited by: Stick Cult on 20/08/2010 21:46:57
Originally by: Alara IonStorm
Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 20/08/2010 21:26:39
Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 20/08/2010 21:24:36
I snipe this

Edit: F*ck, Will I ever learn to snipe

I'm a pr0 sniper




You don't edit snipes in, fool

Zendoren
Aktaeon Industries
The Black Armada
Posted - 2010.08.20 21:54:00 - [95]
 

Jonzun Crew, your main must be in razor!

If so, I know of whom you speak of! =P

But seriously, if you tell the dude that you don't like that word and he uses it latter belligerently, then there is a problem there! However, if it is used only once, and people have a cow over it without trying to solve it calmly; most people respond with "Get over it"!

Stick Cult
Posted - 2010.08.20 21:55:00 - [96]
 

Originally by: Captain Pompous
Originally by: Stick Cult
Edited by: Stick Cult on 20/08/2010 21:46:57
Originally by: Alara IonStorm
Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 20/08/2010 21:26:39
Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 20/08/2010 21:24:36
I snipe this

Edit: F*ck, Will I ever learn to snipe

I'm a pr0 sniper

You don't edit snipes in, fool

I edited to fix the url tag... Embarassed
I did snipe it, I swear! I was refreshing the page for like 10 minutes.. Neutral

Alara IonStorm
Caldari
Posted - 2010.08.20 21:57:00 - [97]
 

Originally by: Stick Cult
Originally by: Captain Pompous
Originally by: Stick Cult
Edited by: Stick Cult on 20/08/2010 21:46:57
Originally by: Alara IonStorm
Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 20/08/2010 21:26:39
Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 20/08/2010 21:24:36
I snipe this

Edit: F*ck, Will I ever learn to snipe

I'm a pr0 sniper

You don't edit snipes in, fool

I edited to fix the url tag... Embarassed
I did snipe it, I swear! I was refreshing the page for like 10 minutes.. Neutral


Teach me oh wise Forum Guru.

Yansa Tholus
Posted - 2010.08.20 22:07:00 - [98]
 

Originally by: omgfreemoniez
Edited by: omgfreemoniez on 20/08/2010 18:28:03

Anyway CCP are from Iceland and that's like the whitest place ever, the ground are white, the people are white, even the polar bears are white. I doubt CCP'll help you out with this one, OP.
Laughing Razz

yes i know they dont have polar bears in iceland but it sounded funny in my head
They don't have polar bears in Iceland. And most of the country is brown and gray.

Wonton Willie
Posted - 2010.08.20 22:09:00 - [99]
 

Riddle me this. If the offender was also a "black gamer", would it have bothered you anywhere near as much? Don't bother answering actually, because if you say yes, you are a liar.

Ildryn
Posted - 2010.08.20 22:13:00 - [100]
 

So what. Ive seen Black men call each other the *N* word. And the same black people calling white people Cracker. Those same Black people get upset when you call them the *N* word. But anyone can be a *N* word. It's the people who escalate it to a racist word that are usually the racists.

Atticus Fynch
Gallente
Posted - 2010.08.20 22:16:00 - [101]
 

Originally by: Ildryn
So what. Ive seen Black men call each other the *N* word. And the same black people calling white people Cracker. Those same Black people get upset when you call them the *N* word. But anyone can be a *N* word. It's the people who escalate it to a racist word that are usually the racists.


Um..I prefer you not use the "C" word. Rolling Eyes Thank you very much.

Amber Accelerando
Posted - 2010.08.20 22:18:00 - [102]
 

Originally by: Jonzun Crew
It's not the game I don't like it's racism. For the last 2 years I've done nothing but have a good time. Even when getting my stuff destroyed. That's is a huge part of the appeal. Theft, deception, espionage I get. Racism? How do I incorporate that into a good time? "oh that guy is just an Ammar and you are a Mimnitar so it's natural" lol
I think it caught me off guard and I need to get the bee out of my bonnet.




No no no, you should be offended and you should petition him. Damit I can't stand that sort of crap. I f somebody calls me a "Noob" I go crazy!
That is the 'N' word right?



Cat o'Ninetails
Caldari
Rancer Defence League
Posted - 2010.08.20 22:21:00 - [103]
 

i also hate naggers lol Mad

x

Rpeg
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2010.08.20 22:31:00 - [104]
 

Edited by: Rpeg on 20/08/2010 22:32:17
Edited by: Rpeg on 20/08/2010 22:31:44
Originally by: Taxmuch
I don't understand why it's ok for black people to say ****** to each other and when anyone else says that, it's racism and offensive?

I just don't understand, please enlighten me.


LET ME ENLIGHTEN YOU (moron)

There's this moment in American history when white people enslaved black people. Later on they freed them and oppressed them. During this long history when a white person said the N***** word towards a black person, it was meant as a threat, purely racist remark or worse.

Nowadays you have more nuance. You have black people who use the word. However when a black person uses the word, CHANCES ARE THEY"RE NOT IN THE KayKK! However when a white person uses it, it makes a black person suspicious, confused or nervous at their intentions or context.

I'm black. If a black guy says n***** I can assume he's probably not a racist set out to destroy me. When a white person says it, I have to immediately understand context. If I can't understand context (for example, if a stranger says it) I become upset or suspicious of them.

THERE YOU GO!

Stick Cult
Posted - 2010.08.20 22:37:00 - [105]
 

Edited by: Stick Cult on 20/08/2010 22:38:28
Edited by: Stick Cult on 20/08/2010 22:37:45
Originally by: Rpeg
Originally by: Taxmuch
I don't understand why it's ok for black people to say ****** to each other and when anyone else says that, it's racism and offensive?

I just don't understand, please enlighten me.


LET ME ENLIGHTEN YOU (moron)

There's this moment in American history when white people enslaved black people. Later on they freed them and oppressed them. During this long history when a white person said the N***** word towards a black person, it was meant as a threat, purely racist remark or worse.

Nowadays you have more nuance. You have black people who use the word. However when a black person uses the word, CHANCES ARE THEY"RE NOT IN THE KayKK! However when a white person uses it, it makes a black person suspicious, confused or nervous at their intentions or context.

I'm black. If a black guy says n***** I can assume he's probably not a racist set out to destroy me. When a white person says it, I have to immediately understand context. If I can't understand context (for example, if a stranger says it) I become upset or suspicious of them.

THERE YOU GO!

Then you're paranoid. Chances are most white people aren't in the "KayKK" either, so grow up.
Quote:
During this long history when a white person said the N***** word towards a black person, it was meant as a threat, purely racist remark or worse.

Yes. And this period of history is over. IT'S A WORD. If you're that upset by a word, you need to seriously HTFU.

Brusanan
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
Posted - 2010.08.20 22:37:00 - [106]
 

People need to stop being offended by stupid things. A word is a word is a word. There is nothing offensive about any word. The only reason people get offended by words is because they were conditioned to be offended by them, in the same way that some people were conditioned to be offended by elbows on the table, wearing a hat in doors, taking the Lord's name in vain, etc. All stupid things that are only offensive because certain people just need things to ***** about.

You do not have a right not to be offended, and nobody is obligated to stop doing something just because it offends you.

Rpeg
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2010.08.20 22:41:00 - [107]
 

Edited by: Rpeg on 20/08/2010 22:43:10
Originally by: Stick Cult
Edited by: Stick Cult on 20/08/2010 22:37:45
Originally by: Rpeg
Originally by: Taxmuch
I don't understand why it's ok for black people to say ****** to each other and when anyone else says that, it's racism and offensive?

I just don't understand, please enlighten me.


LET ME ENLIGHTEN YOU (moron)

There's this moment in American history when white people enslaved black people. Later on they freed them and oppressed them. During this long history when a white person said the N***** word towards a black person, it was meant as a threat, purely racist remark or worse.

Nowadays you have more nuance. You have black people who use the word. However when a black person uses the word, CHANCES ARE THEY"RE NOT IN THE KayKK! However when a white person uses it, it makes a black person suspicious, confused or nervous at their intentions or context.

I'm black. If a black guy says n***** I can assume he's probably not a racist set out to destroy me. When a white person says it, I have to immediately understand context. If I can't understand context (for example, if a stranger says it) I become upset or suspicious of them.

THERE YOU GO!

Then you're paranoid. Chances are most white people aren't in the "KayKK" either, so grow up.
Quote:
During this long history when a white person said the N***** word towards a black person, it was meant as a threat, purely racist remark or worse.

Yes. And this period of history is over.


I"m not saying white people are in the ***. I'm saying when a white person says n****** and you don't understand the context, then the possibility of them being outright racist is open to lots of interpretation. No one should be confused or shocked by that reasoning. That's the problem and that's why people feel uncomfortable with it. You have to start understanding if it was meant as a joke or if this is a person who actually carries hate.

And no, racism is not over in America. I was yelled at by a stranger in a car, called a n***** a couple years ago walking down Sunset Blvd in L.A.

You need to grow up and realize what world you live in.

And listen you little brat. The issue isn't the word. The issue is the context. When you hear people throw the word around, it makes it difficult to understand the meaning or intention behind it. I'm not offended if it's meant as joke. However sometimes it's not. And when those times arise, I like the to understand the situation fully.

Necrosmith
Gallente
Chunder Corp
Posted - 2010.08.20 22:44:00 - [108]
 

Dr. Laura plays EVE?

There's no room for racism in EVE.
Report the offender.

Stick Cult
Posted - 2010.08.20 22:48:00 - [109]
 

I know there's racism still, and there always will be. Forever. There will always be "that group" of people everyone seems to hate, although the FOTM will switch every now and then, and you'll always be able to find some other group who hates someone else for no reason. It's human nature. My point is that you shouldn't be offended by a word, there are much more important things to be offended about.

Also, I was referencing the period of history when black people were openly discriminated against. (ie, denied service at a restaurant, on a bus, etc) Of course there will always be people who will generalize about groups, but that goes for every group of people.

Rpeg
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2010.08.20 22:52:00 - [110]
 

Originally by: Stick Cult
My point is that you shouldn't be offended by a word, there are much more important things to be offended about.



Sit down. Count how many times I mentioned the word "context". Go count. The issue is not the word. The issue is context and as to why a black person would get nervous when they hear a white person in America say the n-word. If it's a white friend, I can understand the meaning. If it's a complete stranger, then I don't know if it's a joke or not or even if it's a threat. You clearly don't relate at all. You should grow up and gain some life experience.

Stick Cult
Posted - 2010.08.20 22:55:00 - [111]
 

And your only context is that it's a white person.

Ghoest
Posted - 2010.08.20 22:58:00 - [112]
 

I have never met anyone who was offended by "cracker."

Anyone who is racist sees it as a compliment. Anyone who isnt racist just doesnt care.

Sader Rykane
Amarr
The Dark Space Initiative
Revival Of The Talocan Empire
Posted - 2010.08.20 22:59:00 - [113]
 

I'm not sure why people keep asking "If they call each other it, why can't we call them it"?

200-300 years of slavery
Apartheid
Jim Crow

That's why we get to say it to each other, simply put. Let us enslave you for a couple hundred years, then separate you "equally" and you can totally call us ******s to.

That being said, I'm Haitian, I don't use the N-Word, and we killed our white people and freed ourselves anyway. In retrospect it didn't work out so well but meh.

Rpeg
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2010.08.20 23:00:00 - [114]
 

Originally by: Stick Cult
And your only context is that it's a white person.


I shouldn't assume that whoever said the word in the original situation was white. However, with the post I quoted, I assume they were referring to the typical American white/black dynamic. Much the same way it's been in the news lately (Dr. Laura). Their issue is about blacks using the word why that's different from others. If a Mexican calls me that word, I have to go through the same process of understanding their meaning and context and whether or not it's a joke or a threat. Again, I guess you just have never been a situation like that before. Good for you.

Barakkus
Posted - 2010.08.20 23:01:00 - [115]
 

All you people going on about "it's just a word" are probably too young to really understand the meaning behind it...there's a lot more to it than it being "just a word".

This is one man that has been called a n****** recently, that knows very well what that word means, and NO ONE living on this earth has the right to say that **** to this man, not a single person, black, white, hispanic or otherwise.

Mah'D
Posted - 2010.08.20 23:02:00 - [116]
 

Originally by: Rpeg
Edited by: Rpeg on 20/08/2010 22:32:17
Edited by: Rpeg on 20/08/2010 22:31:44
Originally by: Taxmuch
I don't understand why it's ok for black people to say ****** to each other and when anyone else says that, it's racism and offensive?

I just don't understand, please enlighten me.


LET ME ENLIGHTEN YOU (moron)

There's this moment in American history when white people enslaved black people. Later on they freed them and oppressed them. During this long history when a white person said the N***** word towards a black person, it was meant as a threat, purely racist remark or worse.

Nowadays you have more nuance. You have black people who use the word. However when a black person uses the word, CHANCES ARE THEY"RE NOT IN THE KayKK! However when a white person uses it, it makes a black person suspicious, confused or nervous at their intentions or context.

I'm black. If a black guy says n***** I can assume he's probably not a racist set out to destroy me. When a white person says it, I have to immediately understand context. If I can't understand context (for example, if a stranger says it) I become upset or suspicious of them.

THERE YOU GO!


Well that makes sense considering your knowledge of your own history is about as in depth as a childrens book.

Also grow the **** up. If a word offends you because it was used during a period of slavery then you would not be using it amongst yourselves plain and simple. It is all a bunch of hipocritical bs like everything else going around in this world.

Stick Cult
Posted - 2010.08.20 23:05:00 - [117]
 

Edited by: Stick Cult on 20/08/2010 23:05:16
Originally by: Barakkus
All you people going on about "it's just a word" are probably too young to really understand the meaning behind it...there's a lot more to it than it being "just a word".

Enlighten me, please. In modern context, yes, it is just a word.

And to just be a total *******, I say I do have the right, as guaranteed by the 1st amendment. Very Happy I wouldn't, but I can.

Rpeg
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2010.08.20 23:05:00 - [118]
 

Originally by: Mah'D
Originally by: Rpeg
Edited by: Rpeg on 20/08/2010 22:32:17
Edited by: Rpeg on 20/08/2010 22:31:44
Originally by: Taxmuch
I don't understand why it's ok for black people to say ****** to each other and when anyone else says that, it's racism and offensive?

I just don't understand, please enlighten me.


LET ME ENLIGHTEN YOU (moron)

There's this moment in American history when white people enslaved black people. Later on they freed them and oppressed them. During this long history when a white person said the N***** word towards a black person, it was meant as a threat, purely racist remark or worse.

Nowadays you have more nuance. You have black people who use the word. However when a black person uses the word, CHANCES ARE THEY"RE NOT IN THE KayKK! However when a white person uses it, it makes a black person suspicious, confused or nervous at their intentions or context.

I'm black. If a black guy says n***** I can assume he's probably not a racist set out to destroy me. When a white person says it, I have to immediately understand context. If I can't understand context (for example, if a stranger says it) I become upset or suspicious of them.

THERE YOU GO!


Well that makes sense considering your knowledge of your own history is about as in depth as a childrens book.

Also grow the **** up. If a word offends you because it was used during a period of slavery then you would not be using it amongst yourselves plain and simple. It is all a bunch of hipocritical bs like everything else going around in this world.


Go read my other posts moron. The issue isn't the word. It's the context. If I don't understand the context of when the word is being used, I will feel uncomfortable, confused or even nervous.

And I had to present a brief synopsis on American history here for the sake of brevity. If you'd like to teach me about my history, go right ahead. I'd love to hear it.

Barakkus
Posted - 2010.08.20 23:06:00 - [119]
 

Originally by: Mah'D
Originally by: Rpeg
Edited by: Rpeg on 20/08/2010 22:32:17
Edited by: Rpeg on 20/08/2010 22:31:44
Originally by: Taxmuch
I don't understand why it's ok for black people to say ****** to each other and when anyone else says that, it's racism and offensive?

I just don't understand, please enlighten me.


LET ME ENLIGHTEN YOU (moron)

There's this moment in American history when white people enslaved black people. Later on they freed them and oppressed them. During this long history when a white person said the N***** word towards a black person, it was meant as a threat, purely racist remark or worse.

Nowadays you have more nuance. You have black people who use the word. However when a black person uses the word, CHANCES ARE THEY"RE NOT IN THE KayKK! However when a white person uses it, it makes a black person suspicious, confused or nervous at their intentions or context.

I'm black. If a black guy says n***** I can assume he's probably not a racist set out to destroy me. When a white person says it, I have to immediately understand context. If I can't understand context (for example, if a stranger says it) I become upset or suspicious of them.

THERE YOU GO!


Well that makes sense considering your knowledge of your own history is about as in depth as a childrens book.

Also grow the **** up. If a word offends you because it was used during a period of slavery then you would not be using it amongst yourselves plain and simple. It is all a bunch of hipocritical bs like everything else going around in this world.


Blacks use that word to culturally "own" it, take the "power" away from those who used it to oppress them. It's a cultural thing, and it's not likely to just up and change itself overnight. This isn't a "slavery" thing, there's more to it than that, you are over simplifying things.

Sakrak
Posted - 2010.08.20 23:07:00 - [120]
 

Originally by: Furb Killer
Originally by: Taxmuch
I don't understand why it's ok for black people to say ****** to each other and when anyone else says that, it's racism and offensive?

I just don't understand, please enlighten me.

Tada and we got a winner.

I think you are in for quite a search if you want to find a european person who sees the 'n-word' as such a problem that apparently americans think it is. They say it against each other, but when someone else says it, it is suddenly all bad and emo?

Highly related, which shows why many non-americans really dont get this:
Ninja say what?
Ginga say what?



Let me start by saying I don't know the OP's motivations so I am making no accusations. But in America it is known as the race card. Certain groups have found that by shouting racism at every turn(whether true or not) they can intimidate others who are scared to death of being called racist. Heck someone may call me a racist for saying this.


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