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MasterEnt
Posted - 2010.08.18 14:38:00 - [1]
 

WTF is up with all the server crashes and reboots lately.
More in the last few months than the past few years.

Get it together guys, come on.
Got a few people to finally play even on trial - now I look like as a$$hole.

RaTTuS
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement
Posted - 2010.08.18 14:41:00 - [2]
 

server has not crashed since patch was upRolling Eyes

Spaceman Jack
Posted - 2010.08.18 14:50:00 - [3]
 

Stop whining - the server has not crashed since last night.

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.08.18 15:48:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Spaceman Jack
Stop whining - the server has not crashed since last night.


Re-booted with an hour warning as I recall.

Sash Windu
Gallente
The Green Banana Corporation
Posted - 2010.08.18 16:05:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Spaceman Jack
Stop whining - the server has not crashed since last night.

Wow, a whole 17 hours.

There is a computer in the office that I work in that has a MTBF of 17 months. Not that it is used for much, it just deals with the billing for several million broadband customers.

Maimakterion
Posted - 2010.08.18 16:13:00 - [6]
 

There's planned downtime every night and you're criticizing CCP for not maintaining 99% uptime? Wow.

Brian Ballsack
Posted - 2010.08.18 17:02:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: MasterEnt
WTF is up with all the server crashes and reboots lately.
More in the last few months than the past few years.

Get it together guys, come on.
Got a few people to finally play even on trial - now I look like as a$$hole.


Those people must suck if they think your an a$$hole because the server went down, toss em off.

Ranger 1
Amarr
Ranger Corp
Posted - 2010.08.18 17:06:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Sash Windu
Originally by: Spaceman Jack
Stop whining - the server has not crashed since last night.

Wow, a whole 17 hours.

There is a computer in the office that I work in that has a MTBF of 17 months. Not that it is used for much, it just deals with the billing for several million broadband customers.



Because sending a monthly bill is just as difficult as equiping those people with virtual spaceships, thousands of ways to equip them, and having them shoot/transact/chat/mail each other simultaneously. Laughing

Pesky LaRue
Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels
Etherium Cartel
Posted - 2010.08.18 17:09:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Brian Ballsack
toss em off.
yup, tossing them off will probably calm them down Laughing

GLiMPSEiNATOR
Posted - 2010.08.18 18:56:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Pesky LaRue
Originally by: Brian Ballsack
toss em off.
yup, tossing them off will probably calm them down Laughing


Only if you finish the job... stopping midstream could make them antsy.

Jovialmadness
Posted - 2010.08.18 21:11:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: MasterEnt
WTF is up with all the server crashes and reboots lately.
More in the last few months than the past few years.

Get it together guys, come on.
Got a few people to finally play even on trial - now I look like as a$$hole.


Dont worry im fairly sure you were an a$$hole before this. Afterall, forcing me to enter this horrible thread proves it.

Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2010.08.18 21:17:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: MasterEnt
Got a few people to finally play even on trial - now I look like as a$$hole.
Oh, you didn't tell them you were a jita scam spammer?

Abdiel Kavash
Caldari
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
Posted - 2010.08.18 22:32:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Abdiel Kavash on 18/08/2010 22:32:23
Originally by: Sash Windu
Originally by: Spaceman Jack
Stop whining - the server has not crashed since last night.

Wow, a whole 17 hours.

There is a computer in the office that I work in that has a MTBF of 17 months. Not that it is used for much, it just deals with the billing for several million broadband customers.



These are 50+ (?) linked servers running a game for some 50k people. Forgive CCP for not keeping up with your business standards. Rolling Eyes

Jita Alt666
Posted - 2010.08.18 23:42:00 - [14]
 

Im predicted that because you look like an a$$hole ccp will jump to it. Get your buddies to come to Jita and deal with me - then they will learn what a real a$$hole is.

Sash Windu
Gallente
The Green Banana Corporation
Posted - 2010.08.19 00:34:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Abdiel Kavash
Edited by: Abdiel Kavash on 18/08/2010 22:32:23
Originally by: Sash Windu
Originally by: Spaceman Jack
Stop whining - the server has not crashed since last night.

Wow, a whole 17 hours.

There is a computer in the office that I work in that has a MTBF of 17 months. Not that it is used for much, it just deals with the billing for several million broadband customers.



These are 50+ (?) linked servers running a game for some 50k people. Forgive CCP for not keeping up with your business standards. Rolling Eyes

Do you think that the billing computer stands alone? Nope, it is chatting all the time to the computers in the exchanges and getting queried by the customer support staff. It bears more than a passing resemblance to the Eve server, a big database, with lots of blades doing stuff to it.

Its reliability is not an accident, but a product of the processes used to develop and maintain it.

Thorian Baalnorn
Posted - 2010.08.19 00:40:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Thorian Baalnorn on 19/08/2010 00:43:37

Originally by: Sash Windu
Originally by: Abdiel Kavash
Edited by: Abdiel Kavash on 18/08/2010 22:32:23
Originally by: Sash Windu
Originally by: Spaceman Jack
Stop whining - the server has not crashed since last night.

Wow, a whole 17 hours.

There is a computer in the office that I work in that has a MTBF of 17 months. Not that it is used for much, it just deals with the billing for several million broadband customers.



These are 50+ (?) linked servers running a game for some 50k people. Forgive CCP for not keeping up with your business standards. Rolling Eyes

Do you think that the billing computer stands alone? Nope, it is chatting all the time to the computers in the exchanges and getting queried by the customer support staff. It bears more than a passing resemblance to the Eve server, a big database, with lots of blades doing stuff to it.

Its reliability is not an accident, but a product of the processes used to develop and maintain it.



Comparing a billing pc on a network at work to CCP game servers is like comparing a spotlight to the sun.

While its annoying when it does crash and some of the crashes could be prevented if they would focus more people on the game that supports CCP, it is still up most of the day.


Sash Windu
Gallente
The Green Banana Corporation
Posted - 2010.08.19 01:52:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Thorian Baalnorn

Comparing a billing pc on a network at work to CCP game servers is like comparing a spotlight to the sun.


Yep, but it is only you that is talking about a billing pc here.

Sajad
Posted - 2010.08.19 02:06:00 - [18]
 

My twizzlestick has more uptime than EVE.

Shaalira D'arc
Posted - 2010.08.19 02:11:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Sajad
My twizzlestick has more uptime than EVE.


Pics or it didn't happen.

Susung
Hydra Resources
D-Collective
Posted - 2010.08.19 02:20:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Sash Windu
Originally by: Spaceman Jack
Stop whining - the server has not crashed since last night.

Wow, a whole 17 hours.

There is a computer in the office that I work in that has a MTBF of 17 months. Not that it is used for much, it just deals with the billing for several million broadband customers.



Theres a 286 in the computer room at my work that has been running nightly billing scripts since before many of you were born. DONT TOUCH ITLaughing

King Aires
Kwame's Executive Protection Detail
Posted - 2010.08.19 02:28:00 - [21]
 

CCP was thinking ahead when they bought this state of the art server... its tough t remember how many times to turn the wheel every downtime Rolling Eyes
CCP's 2004 Tranquility Set-up

Sajad
Posted - 2010.08.19 02:33:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Shaalira D'arc
Originally by: Sajad
My twizzlestick has more uptime than EVE.


Pics or it didn't happen.


Pic.

Ocih
Amarr
Space Mermaids
Posted - 2010.08.19 03:40:00 - [23]
 

EvE has cancer. Its dying.

Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
Posted - 2010.08.19 04:53:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Sash Windu
Originally by: Thorian Baalnorn

Comparing a billing pc on a network at work to CCP game servers is like comparing a spotlight to the sun.


Yep, but it is only you that is talking about a billing pc here.
Does your Database handle tens of millions (if not hundreds of millions at this point) of transactions a day?

Koba Kyogen
The Concordiat
Concordiat Alliance
Posted - 2010.08.19 05:08:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: GLiMPSEiNATOR
Originally by: Pesky LaRue
Originally by: Brian Ballsack
toss em off.
yup, tossing them off will probably calm them down Laughing


Only if you finish the job... stopping midstream could make them antsy.



damn, spicy crowd tonight

Shaalira D'arc
Posted - 2010.08.19 05:14:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Sajad
Originally by: Shaalira D'arc
Originally by: Sajad
My twizzlestick has more uptime than EVE.


Pics or it didn't happen.


Pic.


You make a compelling argument.

Sash Windu
Gallente
The Green Banana Corporation
Posted - 2010.08.19 05:28:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Sash Windu
Originally by: Thorian Baalnorn

Comparing a billing pc on a network at work to CCP game servers is like comparing a spotlight to the sun.


Yep, but it is only you that is talking about a billing pc here.
Does your Database handle tens of millions (if not hundreds of millions at this point) of transactions a day?

Nope. It is only capable of about 90 TPS.

But without knowing the sizes of the transactions we are comparing, we can't know if that is better or worse than the Eve server.

Urgg Boolean
Posted - 2010.08.19 05:51:00 - [28]
 

Agree with OP. High reliability for computing systems in just any other business is mandatory as, a) the customers expect it, and b) the company wants no interruptions in customer transactions. High reliability costs money, true. And CCP's profits do not depend upon uninterrupted transactions, as macys.com does. But it is certainly realistic and appropriate to expect uptime to exceed 23 hours.

So if we want higher reliability, the money has to come form somewhere... Hardware is easy to make reliable too. It's the software that can be a real problem, and cost the most is it's flaky and creating problems. And CCP displays a suspicious connection between patches and unreliability/instability.

I'll bet CCP's billing computer never crashes.

Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
Posted - 2010.08.19 05:58:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Sash Windu
But without knowing the sizes of the transactions we are comparing, we can't know if that is better or worse than the Eve server.

Nowhere near the eve servers capabilities. Think of Jita, Market hubs, Mission hubs. Thousands of db transactions a minute. Think of all the hundreds of people in Motsu, or Penirgman, or whatever Gallente/Minmatar mission hub you will. Amarr, Jita, Dodixie, Rens.

Sinister Dextor
Posted - 2010.08.19 06:50:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Sash Windu
Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Sash Windu
Originally by: Thorian Baalnorn

Comparing a billing pc on a network at work to CCP game servers is like comparing a spotlight to the sun.


Yep, but it is only you that is talking about a billing pc here.
Does your Database handle tens of millions (if not hundreds of millions at this point) of transactions a day?

Nope. It is only capable of about 90 TPS.

But without knowing the sizes of the transactions we are comparing, we can't know if that is better or worse than the Eve server.



The Eve server lets idiots fly spaceships. Yours send out bills. I can tell you now that the Eve server is better than yours.


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