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Kevrhon
Posted - 2010.08.17 11:49:00 - [31]
 

LAG... CCP's fault? Dearest Grasshoppers, Lag is not something CCP is responsible for. Are they responsible for your location? How about your internet connection and ISP's throttling of your bandwidth? Or maybe you think CCP can control your neighbor who is tapped into your unprotected WiFi as they download from Lime [trojan, worm, malware] Wire? hmmmm, maybe CCP can stop your neighbors, for those of you with cable, from downloading movies or watching Huluu which if you didn't know slows you down? Ever play EVE on a T1 line? ho ho ho. no lag there. No my dear Grasshoppers, Lag is not CCP.. your Lag is you. But, please feel free to complain, moan, whine and stomp your feet or scream at your monitor [we know many of you do] [and what an odd thing to do] your lag is yours, wear it well.

atoninothemighty
Rogue-Element
Posted - 2010.08.17 12:06:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Raigir
Quote:
•Many character related services have been optimized on the server to run faster and more reliably.


Does this mean something like my skill queue not taking 5 mins to load anymore?


That's your own computer then, mine loads in a matter of seconds. Under 30 that is.

atoninothemighty
Rogue-Element
Posted - 2010.08.17 12:08:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Kevrhon
LAG... CCP's fault? Dearest Grasshoppers, Lag is not something CCP is responsible for. Are they responsible for your location? How about your internet connection and ISP's throttling of your bandwidth? Or maybe you think CCP can control your neighbor who is tapped into your unprotected WiFi as they download from Lime [trojan, worm, malware] Wire? hmmmm, maybe CCP can stop your neighbors, for those of you with cable, from downloading movies or watching Huluu which if you didn't know slows you down? Ever play EVE on a T1 line? ho ho ho. no lag there. No my dear Grasshoppers, Lag is not CCP.. your Lag is you. But, please feel free to complain, moan, whine and stomp your feet or scream at your monitor [we know many of you do] [and what an odd thing to do] your lag is yours, wear it well.


I hope you do realize there is serverside lag, alot of it when it comes to bigger fleet battles. And you just got trolled, terribly.

Deviana Sevidon
Gallente
Panta-Rhei
Butterfly Effect Alliance
Posted - 2010.08.17 12:37:00 - [34]
 

When does the hotfix come, that removes Planetary Management from EVE?

Yeay Fritg
Caldari
Confrerie de Kaedri
Cluster Of Rebirth
Posted - 2010.08.17 13:53:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Tiger's Spirit
Edited by: Tiger''s Spirit on 17/08/2010 11:36:14
Originally by: Psychotic Maniac
does this mean less lag or more?


And CCP do you tried the mass tests when many bubbles on the gate ? :D




Bubblles...take care, if a game mechanisms generate lag it's called an Exploit !

Men enjoy, soon being in a ship in space will be an Exploit !

You should start to learn FPS on console games and only looks planet...well no just stay on console or it will lag.

Yeay

CCP Lemur

Posted - 2010.08.17 14:14:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Traelox
(disclaimer: non-tech guy here) -- what does "character related services" mean? Is that talking about:
a) Traelox is my EVE character and my interaction with the game will speed up? Or,
b) software services related to computer code framework and architecture stuff?

If it related to my toon, what types of things have been optimized to run faster? Wednesday is SOOOOOOOOO far away and I'm one of those people that hate waiting for Christmas presents. Satisfy my curiosity NOW! :)



There will be a DevBlog about that topic to enlighten you all what we have been up to this summer. CCP Atlas was a busy man making your EVE experience smoother. In short: character services are services that don't need to be handled by the sol/location-nodes. So i.e when you browse the certificates the client will get this info from a character node without adding load to the node running the solar system. There are various other kinds of nodes that fir this patterns (market, PI, corp services ...). More details will come with the dev blog.

CCP Lemur

Posted - 2010.08.17 14:18:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab
Originally by: Swidgen
You're updating Python from 2.5 to 2.7? You are delusional if you think this will go smoothly and be completed in 2.5 hours. It's not realistic to expect this can be done in less than 12 hours, and estimating 2.5 hours is indicative of incompetence at best, and outright lying at worst.

2.7 has probably been running on SiSi for a few weeks, so the only real concerns would be related to subtle bugs caused by load and usage patterns of TQ. These aren't generally 48 hour downtime kind of issues though, and if TQ won't start up or something they can simply revert until they figure out what to do.

That's why you see the update to Python in a deployment that includes few real changes.


That sort of is on the spot. The changes have been lingering on Sisi for a while now. If the server doesn't start-up we can simply use the old version and have it up again on this.

Yeay Fritg
Caldari
Confrerie de Kaedri
Cluster Of Rebirth
Posted - 2010.08.17 14:43:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: CCP Lemur
Originally by: Traelox
(disclaimer: non-tech guy here) -- what does "character related services" mean? Is that talking about:
a) Traelox is my EVE character and my interaction with the game will speed up? Or,
b) software services related to computer code framework and architecture stuff?

If it related to my toon, what types of things have been optimized to run faster? Wednesday is SOOOOOOOOO far away and I'm one of those people that hate waiting for Christmas presents. Satisfy my curiosity NOW! :)



There will be a DevBlog about that topic to enlighten you all what we have been up to this summer. CCP Atlas was a busy man making your EVE experience smoother. In short: character services are services that don't need to be handled by the sol/location-nodes. So i.e when you browse the certificates the client will get this info from a character node without adding load to the node running the solar system. There are various other kinds of nodes that fir this patterns (market, PI, corp services ...). More details will come with the dev blog.



Sounds like you set-up specialized business node rather than all in one nodes, is it ?

Manssell
Posted - 2010.08.17 15:02:00 - [39]
 

Yaaaaay Mac fixes! (pets shiny silver computer).

TheBaptist
Posted - 2010.08.17 15:02:00 - [40]
 

Mail finally fixed...that only took what...a month, nearly two?! Now if the claims to Eve crashing less on Macs after this patch is true, I might just keep my sub going. =)

This patch is a good thing. Cool

Leber Adanek
Gallente
Posted - 2010.08.17 15:21:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Judas Yanakov
Less Mac more Linux.

Steve Jobs is a ****.

Hail freedom!


I though I read somewhere that Linux versions/support had been canned?

Dirk Smacker
Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
Posted - 2010.08.17 16:02:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Deviana Sevidon
When does the hotfix come, that removes Planetary Management from EVE?

When it is up your arse eating a ham sandwich, you will know.

Angstzustand
Caldari
Pico Industries
Posted - 2010.08.17 16:18:00 - [43]
 

K.

I toss 1 mil in the pot and say no way before 1500hrs UTC on Aug 18th. Closest wins the pot, only one guess per char, deadline is Aug 18th 1100hrs UTC.

YARRRR!!


Angstzustand
Caldari
Pico Industries
Posted - 2010.08.17 16:21:00 - [44]
 

Oh.... and first person crying "i quit eve [insert emo****] blabla" should be ganked once for every minute difference from quit post till server up time.

Freelancer117
Posted - 2010.08.17 17:11:00 - [45]
 

Edited by: Freelancer117 on 17/08/2010 17:33:47
Edited by: Freelancer117 on 17/08/2010 17:32:16
just wikipediad the Python code

Quote:
Python 3.0, a major, backwards-incompatible release, was released on 3 December 2008 after a long period of testing.
Many of its major features have been backported to the backwards-compatible Python 2.7

Do I see relationship between this patch and maybe future newly rewritten code.
Like rewritting the POS code in the near future for Incarna ?

Would be kewl too have player owned stations given a place in Incarna Rolling Eyes

Any comments CCP ?


Naga Tokiba
Posted - 2010.08.17 18:14:00 - [46]
 

"Excelent" to see the PI click sink fixed in this patch !!!

Chronicle
Posted - 2010.08.17 18:30:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Jack Kennedy
Let hope for christ sake soon they introduce a button feature on the command centre for PI to re-extract ALL extractors on either of the four time options and not have to click on every dam extractor on ever planet you have!! It's nuts and needs changing fast.

Also anchor for corp PI and use of wallets is needed please!!

JKConfused



LaughingLaughingLaughingLaughing yes please please add this button PLEASE

Kathleen Mercury
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2010.08.17 19:32:00 - [48]
 

Hi everyone!

I'm sorry for bothering... Embarassed i'm just curious where could i find the info about the upcomming patch's size in mb? Rolling Eyes
Thanks if anyone respond to this. Smile

Fly safe! Very Happy

Assaj Ventress
Posted - 2010.08.17 19:44:00 - [49]
 

Edited by: Assaj Ventress on 17/08/2010 19:44:40
Originally by: Kathleen Mercury
upcomming patch's size in mb? Rolling Eyes

Tranq to SiSi patch is 14,5 Mb in size, so that's a good estimate)

Rhaven
Quiet.Storm
Posted - 2010.08.18 00:44:00 - [50]
 

just google python and readit directly from their website..

http://docs.python.org/whatsnew/2.7.html#python-3-1-features


Budsin Adar
Posted - 2010.08.18 00:55:00 - [51]
 

Okay so the down time was to end at 12:30 Am GMT. now thats past whats taking so long??? When you post a tim back up thats a Promiss. Please never break your own rules without reposting new times with reasons that sucksEvil or Very Mad

shadowgirl9
Posted - 2010.08.18 00:57:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Bella Yar
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Why is CCP wasting resources on patches when they should be fixing lag?!!?!?!!
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Lag??? apparntly their is not lag every time my screen locks its not lag, its just me drifiting off as ccp's records do not show any problems (in other words the hamster are still running to power the server)

shadowgirl9
Posted - 2010.08.18 01:05:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: Kevrhon
LAG... CCP's fault? Dearest Grasshoppers, Lag is not something CCP is responsible for. Are they responsible for your location? How about your internet connection and ISP's throttling of your bandwidth? Or maybe you think CCP can control your neighbor who is tapped into your unprotected WiFi as they download from Lime [trojan, worm, malware] Wire? hmmmm, maybe CCP can stop your neighbors, for those of you with cable, from downloading movies or watching Huluu which if you didn't know slows you down? Ever play EVE on a T1 line? ho ho ho. no lag there. No my dear Grasshoppers, Lag is not CCP.. your Lag is you. But, please feel free to complain, moan, whine and stomp your feet or scream at your monitor [we know many of you do] [and what an odd thing to do] your lag is yours, wear it well.


o so when the game lags and then 10 min later the servers go down (due to Due to ongoing load issues 12 hours after DT) thats not lag, thats my internet? o right i must have been getting it wrong all these years

Budsin Adar
Posted - 2010.08.18 02:06:00 - [54]
 

Okay so its back up and running Hurray Laughing

Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Posted - 2010.08.18 07:02:00 - [55]
 

How is it that you always find my days off work or my half days to patch CCP?
well patch is good hope it all goes smoothly and is running when I come home.

Dr Sheepbringer
Gallente
Halinallen veroparatiisi
Inglorious Carebears
Posted - 2010.08.18 07:07:00 - [56]
 

They haven't fixed the lag because Chuck Norris on vacation.

SillyWaif
Galactic Kingdom
Posted - 2010.08.18 08:30:00 - [57]
 

6985 builds later and 7 fixed bugs worth mentioning ... Confused

Wolfcheck
The Ice Cartel
Posted - 2010.08.18 09:18:00 - [58]
 

What about the R.A.M. manufacturing bug, is that going to be fixed? Seems like a pretty easy bug to spot, considering it's repeatable, affects everyone and every job that uses RAM.



PureMurder
Posted - 2010.08.18 10:02:00 - [59]
 

Developers! Developers! Developers!

guibio
Caldari
AdAstra.
Not Found.
Posted - 2010.08.18 10:36:00 - [60]
 

There is no lag, CCP need more hamster that's all


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