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Bad Messenger
draketrain
Posted - 2010.08.18 14:05:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Soletar
The fact of the matter is that if Nourv was a 0.5 system, FDU would be running the same raids there even more often than the Caldari do in Villore. But since CCP continues to favor the Caldari militia with spotty game mechanics and uneven playing fields, nothing will change.


Can you link me any CCP post or announcement where they tell that Villore is Gallente main system and gallente has to use it.
there is no one.

Player have chosen that system not ccp.

Damar Rocarion
Posted - 2010.08.18 14:17:00 - [32]
 

In fact by earlier logic, CCP favors Gallente because Caldari dont have that many good entry points to low-sec if you compare it to Villore.

Let's say you need to get to Heydieles from Villore but cannot enter Old Man Star. Gallentes can get there via Mesybier and it only adds three jumps. Other option is Yvangier.

Lets say Caldari have to get to Kedama but cannot enter Tama. Nearest other low-sec entry is either Oshaima or Usi, both which are 6-7 jumps before even hitting low-sec.

Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General


p.s: Nourvukaiken is a bad system to make home in my opinion....

Hidden Snake
Caldari
Inglorious-Basterds
Posted - 2010.08.18 14:39:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Damar Rocarion
In fact by earlier logic, CCP favors Gallente because Caldari dont have that many good entry points to low-sec if you compare it to Villore.

Let's say you need to get to Heydieles from Villore but cannot enter Old Man Star. Gallentes can get there via Mesybier and it only adds three jumps. Other option is Yvangier.

Lets say Caldari have to get to Kedama but cannot enter Tama. Nearest other low-sec entry is either Oshaima or Usi, both which are 6-7 jumps before even hitting low-sec.

Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General


p.s: Nourvukaiken is a bad system to make home in my opinion....
shhh ... dont tell them otherwise they will start to sniff around our high sec hunting grounds.

Lord Zekk
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
The Fourth District
Posted - 2010.08.18 18:56:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Soletar
The fact of the matter is that if Nourv was a 0.5 system, FDU would be running the same raids there even more often than the Caldari do in Villore. But since CCP continues to favor the Caldari militia with spotty game mechanics and uneven playing fields, nothing will change.


The Caldari Militia do have an advantage with the fact that the rats jam and you can't speed tank the sites as effectively (that's if things are still the same)

However saying that Nourv not being 0.5 is one of those things is just..... please could you send me some of whatever you are smoking.


Bhramin
Shadows Of The Federation
ShadowWolves.net
Posted - 2010.08.18 19:09:00 - [35]
 

I think the main point made should be that our main staging areas are heyd, fliet and of course nisuwa.... not villore, i'll love your new corp to come camp nisuwa station damar, but we all know thats not going to happen.

In summary, villore is not main gallente staging area and please come and park your drakes and nuetral orcas on nisuwa station x

Bad Messenger
draketrain
Posted - 2010.08.18 20:24:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Bhramin
I think the main point made should be that our main staging areas are heyd, fliet and of course nisuwa.... not villore, i'll love your new corp to come camp nisuwa station damar, but we all know thats not going to happen.

In summary, villore is not main gallente staging area and please come and park your drakes and nuetral orcas on nisuwa station x


So you are saying that you are not coming to save your home country from invaders?

Mithril Ryder
Genstar Inc
Posted - 2010.08.18 23:22:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Bad Messenger
Originally by: Bhramin
I think the main point made should be that our main staging areas are heyd, fliet and of course nisuwa.... not villore, i'll love your new corp to come camp nisuwa station damar, but we all know thats not going to happen.

In summary, villore is not main gallente staging area and please come and park your drakes and nuetral orcas on nisuwa station x


So you are saying that you are not coming to save your home country from invaders?


Highsec systems are out of the scope of what the Militias are allowed to claim, as are several lowsec regions. You cannot bother any non Militia member is highsec, outside of normal wardec action or during the time allotted by CONCORD after certain actions.

So you managed to gank a poorly set up tower that came out of re-enforced at an unfortunate time.

Why is it that the phrase I always think of for you, Damar, and friends is "Full of Sound and Fury, signifying Nothing"?

Aerilis
Gallente
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2010.08.19 00:00:00 - [38]
 

I wouldn't say that CCP favors Caldari, but they do have a number of undeniable advantages:
-ECM rats
-Nourv being a 0.8 system (it doesn't matter that the players chose the bases, that's just mob mentality. You and I have no control over it, and it is as it is).
-Jita
-Achura(fixed now, but still)

Rmage Gemmell
Minmatar
Friends of Mache Foundation
Posted - 2010.08.19 00:08:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Bad Messenger
Originally by: Bhramin
I think the main point made should be that our main staging areas are heyd, fliet and of course nisuwa.... not villore, i'll love your new corp to come camp nisuwa station damar, but we all know thats not going to happen.

In summary, villore is not main gallente staging area and please come and park your drakes and nuetral orcas on nisuwa station x


So you are saying that you are not coming to save your home country from invaders?


You should have listened to me and checked that Villore doesn't have a bunker before, but noooo ... PERVS doesn't listen to other opinions.

Rmage Gemmell
Luminaire General

Jane Vherokior
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
Posted - 2010.08.19 05:21:00 - [40]
 

Somethin' kinda girly about FW soldiers not willing to step beyond the protection of CONCORD... Cool

Bhramin
Shadows Of The Federation
ShadowWolves.net
Posted - 2010.08.19 05:50:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Bad Messenger
Originally by: Bhramin
I think the main point made should be that our main staging areas are heyd, fliet and of course nisuwa.... not villore, i'll love your new corp to come camp nisuwa station damar, but we all know thats not going to happen.

In summary, villore is not main gallente staging area and please come and park your drakes and nuetral orcas on nisuwa station x


So you are saying that you are not coming to save your home country from invaders?


you seem to be mistaking me for an rper, my home country is England...

Damar Rocarion
Posted - 2010.08.19 07:22:00 - [42]
 

Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 19/08/2010 08:01:54
Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 19/08/2010 07:31:30
Originally by: Bhramin
In summary, villore is not main gallente staging area and please come and park your drakes and nuetral orcas on nisuwa station x


We'll come when we have enough corpies to alpha your repper carriers who dont leave undock. Should be a week or two.

Note: Above is thick with irony (regarding both sides). We dont play the game as you want us to play or vice versa. Accusing us about using neutrals or "exploits" in your high-sec is as pointless as us accusing you of using neutral commands ships who sit on POS or neutral guardians traveling with your fleets.

Edit: Unfortunate timer is not our fault as Bad Messenger commented. Based on what Rmage says, nobody really gave a damn about POS since BB are not well liked. We simply timed the strike and personal wardec to be close to dt to avoid them using the leave the militia trick to save it.

Also, Aerilis: Dodixie is 3j from Villore, exactly the same distance as Nourvukaiken is from Jita. I dont think there is much in Jita you cannot get from Dodi too except perhaps some faction modules (which one should haul with neutrals anyway).

Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General

Rashmika Clavain
Gallente
Posted - 2010.08.19 09:39:00 - [43]
 

In before the Pervs take over Villore again and then run away to an alliance without putting up a fight.

Oh wait, you already did that with the POS!

Draco Rosso
Caldari
Draconian Armada
Posted - 2010.08.19 13:25:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: Damar Rocarion

Originally by: Bhramin
In summary, villore is not main gallente staging area and please come and park your drakes and nuetral orcas on nisuwa station x


We'll come when we have enough corpies to alpha your repper carriers who dont leave undock. Should be a week or two.
Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General


This sounds pretty serious.Shocked

Hidden Snake
Caldari
Inglorious-Basterds
Posted - 2010.08.19 15:44:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Draco Rosso
Originally by: Damar Rocarion

Originally by: Bhramin
In summary, villore is not main gallente staging area and please come and park your drakes and nuetral orcas on nisuwa station x


We'll come when we have enough corpies to alpha your repper carriers who dont leave undock. Should be a week or two.
Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General


This sounds pretty serious.Shocked

:) nisuwa is joke now ... just some bunch of station huggers

Eelis Kiy
Gallente
Shadows Of The Federation
ShadowWolves.net
Posted - 2010.08.19 22:34:00 - [46]
 

/hugs everybody

Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
Posted - 2010.08.19 22:55:00 - [47]
 

Does this mean you'll stop plex altspamming at DT?

Bad Messenger
draketrain
Posted - 2010.08.20 04:05:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Hidden Snake
Originally by: Draco Rosso
Originally by: Damar Rocarion

Originally by: Bhramin
In summary, villore is not main gallente staging area and please come and park your drakes and nuetral orcas on nisuwa station x


We'll come when we have enough corpies to alpha your repper carriers who dont leave undock. Should be a week or two.
Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General


This sounds pretty serious.Shocked

:) nisuwa is joke now ... just some bunch of station huggers


always been

Rmage Gemmell
Minmatar
Friends of Mache Foundation
Posted - 2010.08.20 05:24:00 - [49]
 

Edited by: Rmage Gemmell on 20/08/2010 05:35:05
Originally by: Damar Rocarion
Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 19/08/2010 08:01:54
Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 19/08/2010 07:31:30
Originally by: Bhramin
In summary, villore is not main gallente staging area and please come and park your drakes and nuetral orcas on nisuwa station x


We'll come when we have enough corpies to alpha your repper carriers who dont leave undock. Should be a week or two.

Note: Above is thick with irony (regarding both sides). We dont play the game as you want us to play or vice versa. Accusing us about using neutrals or "exploits" in your high-sec is as pointless as us accusing you of using neutral commands ships who sit on POS or neutral guardians traveling with your fleets.

Edit: Unfortunate timer is not our fault as Bad Messenger commented. Based on what Rmage says, nobody really gave a damn about POS since BB are not well liked. We simply timed the strike and personal wardec to be close to dt to avoid them using the leave the militia trick to save it.

Also, Aerilis: Dodixie is 3j from Villore, exactly the same distance as Nourvukaiken is from Jita. I dont think there is much in Jita you cannot get from Dodi too except perhaps some faction modules (which one should haul with neutrals anyway).

Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General



Wrong, i don't like BB based on previous encouters with them ... they always blob, they always use heavy ECM and it's a very high chance for them to have WCS. I think they are a bunch of ***s, but that's my opinion of them, i don't know how well liked they are in militia. They might not have cared about the POS or they might not have known about the POS ... can't really say.

Now, if you want a fight out of frogs for one such pos there are a few things you need to do :
1 - make the thread BEFORE the pos is down
2 - time the strike so that it doesn't exit around DT, leaving ppl time to mobilize
3 - let it be known in enemy militia chat that the pos in question is being hit
These 3 simple steps would maximize the chance for you to get a fight.
If however, your goal is to gain an insignificant victory by killing a small research POS with no chance of losing and make a chestbeating thread on teh forums, you have proceeded the right way.

Speaking of RR and caps, in the last 2 weeks caldari state has lost 5 caps on Tama station, irony overload ?

Originally by: Hidden Snake
Originally by: Draco Rosso
Originally by: Damar Rocarion

Originally by: Bhramin
In summary, villore is not main gallente staging area and please come and park your drakes and nuetral orcas on nisuwa station x


We'll come when we have enough corpies to alpha your repper carriers who dont leave undock. Should be a week or two.
Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General


This sounds pretty serious.Shocked

:) nisuwa is joke now ... just some bunch of station huggers


60%

Unfamed II
Caldari
NPC Corporation
Paisti Syndicate
Posted - 2010.08.20 05:59:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Rmage Gemmell

Speaking of RR and caps, in the last 2 weeks caldari state has lost 5 caps on Tama station, irony overload ?


I bet its just one super-******ed Moros pilot. Has she upgraded to t2 fit yet? Or still t1? Laughing

Damar Rocarion
Posted - 2010.08.20 06:11:00 - [51]
 

Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 20/08/2010 06:13:23
Originally by: Rmage Gemmell
Now, if you want a fight out of frogs for one such pos there are a few things you need to do :
1 - make the thread BEFORE the pos is down
2 - time the strike so that it doesn't exit around DT, leaving ppl time to mobilize
3 - let it be known in enemy militia chat that the pos in question is being hit


Gallente militia had 22h to organise a defense for the pos or are you saying I should have organised a defense for them?
And again, I was not the guy who loaded stront on that tower so it happened to come out right before DT.

Also about the Moros, I think she wanted to take part in last saturdays Draketrain op with it and was annoyed that our FC would not take him along without knowing her skills, fitting or proper organisation (Which we would not sort out when op was already going on). Then that Moros died on Tama station a bit later. Was funny Laughing

Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General

Rmage Gemmell
Minmatar
Friends of Mache Foundation
Posted - 2010.08.20 08:06:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Damar Rocarion
Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 20/08/2010 06:13:23
Originally by: Rmage Gemmell
Now, if you want a fight out of frogs for one such pos there are a few things you need to do :
1 - make the thread BEFORE the pos is down
2 - time the strike so that it doesn't exit around DT, leaving ppl time to mobilize
3 - let it be known in enemy militia chat that the pos in question is being hit


Gallente militia had 22h to organise a defense for the pos or are you saying I should have organised a defense for them?
And again, I was not the guy who loaded stront on that tower so it happened to come out right before DT.

Also about the Moros, I think she wanted to take part in last saturdays Draketrain op with it and was annoyed that our FC would not take him along without knowing her skills, fitting or proper organisation (Which we would not sort out when op was already going on). Then that Moros died on Tama station a bit later. Was funny Laughing

Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General



I'm saying that in FW you don't get such good exchange of information between CEO's and directors of different corps and you don't get mails generated with attacks on the structures of other corps.
From the chatter in the militia channel nobody knew of it, and i doubt anybody cared about it when it was happening.
It was reported when it was going down but at that time it had less than 1h left.

You might not have been the guy who stronted it, but you were the guys who hit it with the hope - from your OP, of it exiting around DT.

You organized and planned it for DT, you have lots of known alts in gallente so if you indeed wanted a fight out of frogs instead of a chest beating thread, you could have done so.

Damar Rocarion
Posted - 2010.08.20 08:34:00 - [53]
 

Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 20/08/2010 08:43:10
Originally by: Rmage Gemmell
You organized and planned it for DT, you have lots of known alts in gallente so if you indeed wanted a fight out of frogs instead of a chest beating thread, you could have done so.


We had guys from MDP as part of the battleship gang who I assume were the ones repairing and onlining the POS guns, so there should have been enough advance warning in this regard. I assumed that gallentes would jump to any chance to hinder me, seeing how much I used to get death threats and pedo accusations from their side (since they are all mature and take this game non-seriously according to their own word).

Anyway, we did get a fight when we probed out their safe spot (they lost one Tempest earlier) and sent Lachesis as tackle. They had 4 battleships (or was it more) and some fast tackle, we had two battleships, lachesis and four drakes. They tried to run and one guy ended up tackled. Then they returned in unorganised fashion to die. Is that our fault as well?

Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General

Bad Messenger
draketrain
Posted - 2010.08.20 13:01:00 - [54]
 

Edited by: Bad Messenger on 20/08/2010 13:03:31
yea, we failed, we killed several gallente ships and pos and we lost none so it was major fail because it was highsec and enemy could not cyno carriers or ask help from pirates motherships.

Robert Caldera
Posted - 2010.08.20 13:14:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: Damar Rocarion

For immediate release:

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In last 48h Caldari militia conducted a series of attacks in Villore solar system


rice bag? Fallen over... somewhere??

Andre Vauban
Gallente
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2010.08.20 13:25:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: Bad Messenger
Edited by: Bad Messenger on 20/08/2010 13:03:31
yea, we failed, we killed several gallente ships and pos and we lost none so it was major fail because it was highsec and enemy could not cyno carriers or ask help from pirates motherships.


No, you did not fail. Nobody is trying to say what you accomplished was trivial. However, the point was don't claim this was defeating the entire Gallente Militia. This would be akin to use saying we wiped the floor with CDI/draketrain every time we decimate a general militia fleet with some token CDI/draketrain fleet members.

I like some good rivalry, but the constant bickering is getting a little old. Can we stop with the blobbers, cheaters, exploiters, pirate allies, etc comments every time one side gets their ass kicked? Take your ass beating like a man, give a "gf", and learn from your mistakes.

See you on the battlefield...

Damar Rocarion
Posted - 2010.08.20 14:06:00 - [57]
 

Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 20/08/2010 14:17:47
Originally by: Andre Vauban
I like some good rivalry, but the constant bickering is getting a little old. Can we stop with the blobbers, cheaters, exploiters, pirate allies, etc comments every time one side gets their ass kicked?


No. And you know damn well why. You might think stuff like "Nennamaila incident" (or above mentioned death threats, pedo accusations) is trivial but it is not.

Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General

Ratchman
Posted - 2010.08.20 14:48:00 - [58]
 

Damar really is very good at self-promotion. Shame that it is all a matter of perspective, and that his victories only really seem to count to himself.

Draketrain have camped Villore? Well, bully for you for finding a new exploit to camp a 0.5 system whilst simultaneously taking absolutely no chances whatsoever and docking up whenever anything comes along that could potentially shoot back. The Pervs were always good at finding exploits and ganking people, but I've yet to see them ever participate in a stand up fight against an equal or superior number, which would be the true test of military strategy. You may argue it is guerrilla warfare, but true guerrilla warfare has to be mobile because no safe house is permanent.

Knock yourselves out, fellas. I've noticed just how few Gallente militia there are in Villore these days. It's only a matter of time before your targets dry up and you're left with nothing to shoot at. There are always a few stupid people who will repeat the same mistake time and again, but the majority of people learn. Your tactics are dependent on people not learning to avoid Villore.

By the way, Villore is not the main staging area for the Gallente militia. There are consistently more in Heyd, Nisuwa and Fliet. Why don't you try one of those systems? Oh, of course, because there's actual risk associated with that.

Enjoy your roleplay Damar. The majority of us rate 'fun' over 'desperately trying to make the enemy bleed because it's the only way I can find some validation in my pathetic life'. There are plenty of other people in the Caldari militia who enjoy the challenge of actually fighting, and whilst they may not have achieved the same 'successes' as yourself, they are considerably more fun to play with, which is essentially why we are here.

The trouble with people who love the sound of their own voices, is that they have terribly fragile egos.

Bad Messenger
draketrain
Posted - 2010.08.20 15:21:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Ratchman
... but I've yet to see them ever participate in a stand up fight against an equal or superior number, which would be the true test of military strategy. ...


bring that equal fight to villore, or is it unpossible because you can not cyno carriers in, oh snap !

Linu Glacier
Gallente
Nemesis Nation
Posted - 2010.08.20 17:23:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: Bad Messenger
Originally by: Ratchman
... but I've yet to see them ever participate in a stand up fight against an equal or superior number, which would be the true test of military strategy. ...


bring that equal fight to villore, or is it unpossible because you can not cyno carriers in, oh snap !



Laughing you are not worthy enough, try more pls ... thank you ... bye bye

PS. you can talk in villore local only after you ask permisson from me ... is that understood? ...


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