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Posted - 2010.08.13 16:02:00 - [1]
 

Beginning Monday, August 16, we will be publishing a series of blogs outlining our initiative to tackle the infamous lag monster. CCP Zulu's newest blog provides us with a look at what's in store.

Rokkit Kween
Posted - 2010.08.13 16:09:00 - [2]
 

First!

And good news to hear that there will be moar communication on this issue. Keeping the playerbase abreast of developments should be a priority.

W3370Pi4
Lamb Federation Navy
Posted - 2010.08.13 16:10:00 - [3]
 

nice thanks

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Commander Phoenix
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2010.08.13 16:12:00 - [4]
 

Excellent. Look forward to reading them :)

iP0D
Posted - 2010.08.13 16:16:00 - [5]
 

More communication, good. I hope it will be focused on the divide between perspectives, that all together constitute business, and not just the technical talk - although yes this is EVE, we do appreciate that insight and especially interaction that follows.

Quote:
In conclusion, we've been a bit too heads-down on this anti-lag effort and realize the importance of our progress within the EVE player base.


Nah. Mass Fleet Testing did need tweaks, but it is not a case of expectation management you know, that's a business method only useful when things fail, and EVE is far from failing. The realisation is appreciated, but again we hope that it will come down to where the real bottlenecks are. If it helps, Mass Fleet Testing has made good changes, as visible in the last event, but yes it is but one part of the mix.

The part of heads down, yes, I think that is a fair conclusion. Albeit not for Mass Fleet Testing or the fight against lag, those guys & girls have demonstrated much more visible effort then anything else really. Remember the CSM Meeting Minutes, the bottlenecks are visible in there.

The "situation" as it is, is not event specific (if it were, drama would be good, as in the past). Instead it's a trend, and that does require to be addressed with the right combination of perspectives.

Looking forward to these blogs, and more. You upped the ante, it will be great and inspiring to see CCP take on the challenge.

Dusty Meg
Posted - 2010.08.13 16:17:00 - [6]
 

Great to hear your starting to get more techy with your blogs. \o/
Anyway roll on the dev blogs.

Dacil Arandur
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.08.13 16:17:00 - [7]
 

This is a really great dev blog.
It acknowledges everything people have been upset about concerning lag.

I really appreciate this commitment to communication!

Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
Posted - 2010.08.13 16:18:00 - [8]
 

Good news is good.

/c

Ulviirala Vauryndar
Gallente
Vauryndar Dalharil
Posted - 2010.08.13 16:19:00 - [9]
 

That Devblog was fast, woah...

Kythren
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.08.13 16:21:00 - [10]
 

dont mind me, just saying hello. o/

Mashie Saldana
Minmatar
Veto Corp
Posted - 2010.08.13 16:22:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Mashie Saldana on 13/08/2010 16:23:33
Looking forward to that.

RifterDrifter
La Blue Girl
Posted - 2010.08.13 16:23:00 - [12]
 

18 Months.

Aurora Robotnik
Caldari
Ghosts of CKSSA
Posted - 2010.08.13 16:23:00 - [13]
 

First page \o/

Nicely done CCP. Great to see you're finally beginning to communicate with the players properly.
Still not voting for you :P

Doof Hardcastle
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.08.13 16:25:00 - [14]
 

honestly, my expectations have been so lowered that i would be happy being able to jump through gates more than once every 15 minutes

CCP Atropos

Posted - 2010.08.13 16:27:00 - [15]
 

Nnngh, can't wait Cool

Meissa Anunthiel
Redshift Industrial
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2010.08.13 16:28:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: CCP Atropos
Nnngh, can't wait Cool


Neither can I :-)

Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises
Posted - 2010.08.13 16:28:00 - [17]
 

Thanks for the info. Keep up the good work.

Doof Hardcastle
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.08.13 16:32:00 - [18]
 

so it took you 8 months and another large expansion and dozens of threadnaughts to realize that holy **** we might have actually made stuff worse? Oh wait, no it was just the public relations fiasco because people outside of eve finally heard about how **** you are. That was what elicited response in under a week.

Trolling comment removed - Adida



XenosisReaper
Interwebs Cooter Explosion
Important Internet Spaceship League
Posted - 2010.08.13 16:33:00 - [19]
 

CCP Headquarters

"Damage Control!?"

"Its not good sir! They've knocked over the coffee machine"

"Evasive Manoeuvres! Hard to port and pop Dev Blo- I mean flares"

"AYE AYE"

Undertow Latheus
Posted - 2010.08.13 16:36:00 - [20]
 

Very nice indeed. While there's no way to know how much this will actually help the lag issue, I'm sure many people will be glad that you're finally acknowledging their frustrations.

Now about that lowsec thing...

Monistat Seven
Caldari
Posted - 2010.08.13 16:38:00 - [21]
 

Thank You!

Thank You!

Thank You!

Favorite line... "We had our heads down". I know what that is like when working so focused on a problem. If you want us to be part of the team to fix the problem, you need to communicate with your team, and yes, even though I pay to play, I'll pay to improve too IF you are making progress. This is progress.

Thank You!

Thank You!

Thank You!

CCP Oveur

Posted - 2010.08.13 16:42:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: CCP Oveur on 13/08/2010 16:43:31
Edited by: CCP Oveur on 13/08/2010 16:42:50
Originally by: Doof Hardcastle
so it took you 8 months and another large expansion and dozens of threadnaughts to realize that holy **** we might have actually made stuff worse? Oh wait, no it was just the public relations fiasco because people outside of eve finally heard about how **** you are. That was what elicited response in under a week.


Yes, that was totally the reason. You saw right through me. It's why we now spend 20% of the time of the largest MMO development team in the world, on a 7 year game, just fixing bugs.

Well, we actually have been doing that for a very long time.

But you are right, we did listen and moved a lot more focus on fixing lag specifically than just fixing in general. More on that later in an upcoming blog.
Originally by: Doof Hardcastle

Congrats, you're douches.


I love Jersey Shore just as much as the next guy so I take that as a compliment ugh

iP0D
Posted - 2010.08.13 16:48:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: iP0D on 13/08/2010 16:50:28

Originally by: CCP Oveur
But you are right, we did listen and moved a lot more focus on fixing lag specifically than just fixing in general. More on that later in an upcoming blog.



Good to see some old style posting Cool Missed that, with bi directional communication and a little protocol there is no need to fear the forums (I remember when some trolls feared the ccpians here)Cool.

I just really hope, that there is some realisation on the differences in perspectives, and how all of them carry their own value markers in business. Perception defines reality, reality defines business, etc.

Looking forward to see whether the trend is considered for what it is.

Bajsek
Posted - 2010.08.13 16:48:00 - [24]
 

Then it must be a very strange coincidence that this blog followed right after people started to ***** about EvE on internetz. And we thought those two things are somehow connected... silly me. Confused

So.. 18 months? Rolling Eyes

DmitryEKT
Clandestine.
Posted - 2010.08.13 16:49:00 - [25]
 

At least something's being done...

Dan Kaneda
Kaneda's Evil Ninja Organization
Posted - 2010.08.13 16:56:00 - [26]
 

Edited by: Dan Kaneda on 13/08/2010 17:01:41
I don't care about lag, give me shiny new stuff ! Very Happy

Originally by: Bajsek

So.. 18 months? Rolling Eyes


Quit this catch phrase, it's now 17 months !

Mynxee
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2010.08.13 16:59:00 - [27]
 

Always good to see more in-depth information coming out in dev blogs. Is there any rough schedule for the publication of the ones listed as upcoming, particlarly CCP Warlock's? I know a lot of folks are looking forward to that one and would dearly love to mark it "Delivered" on my tracked list of deliverables that CCP committed to during the June Summit.



Aranial
Gallente
Empyrean Warriors
The Obsidian Front
Posted - 2010.08.13 17:05:00 - [28]
 

Wahey!

CCP Oveur

Posted - 2010.08.13 17:09:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Bajsek
Then it must be a very strange coincidence that this blog followed right after people started to ***** about EvE on internetz. And we thought those two things are somehow connected... silly me. Confused

So.. 18 months? Rolling Eyes


No coincidence. Happened something like this.

Dude: "Hey, since we're focusing more on lag, maybe we should tell everyone about it as well so they see the progress and what we're thinking"

Me: "What, you serious? I don't understand half of that ****, you think 350 thousand EVE players will be interested in semahors?"

Dude: "That's semaphores Nathan. And obviously not everyone is as dense as you. I mean that in a good way."

Dudette: "Yeah, and those that do understand can perhaps explain the stuff to others as well."

So here we are. Tech blog bombardment. Hope you like it.


And on the 18 months, which is largely attributed to a meeting with me, which meeting minute I didn't get to read before it was published, where I could have explained this better, is as follows.

We deliver expansions every 6 months. The winter expansion is being planned on Monday and includes improvements, fixes, content and new features, including quite a few of the stuff listed on the Evelopedia prioritized list. We also spend 20% of the time fixing stuff, as one does.

The summer expansion is planned in January and will follow the same pattern. Improvements, fixes, content and new features with 20% spent on fixing stuff.

The winter expansion in 2011, and this is where the 18 months comes is, has a major theme change. Improvements, fixes. Not so much new features. Still 20% fixing. Because from there on and for the foreseeable future, we will be improving all the stuff we already have.

That's why I said "no new features". Everyone is working on improving what we already got. And there is so much we already have that it'll probably keep us busy for more than a year revisiting features.

And that's delivered in winter 2011.

And it's less than 18 months.

And I like to do short sentences.

I should probably turn this into a blog.

Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises
Posted - 2010.08.13 17:17:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: CCP Oveur
I should probably turn this into a blog.


Yes.


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