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Lord Xantoh
Posted - 2010.08.13 08:20:00 - [31]
 

Edited by: Lord Xantoh on 13/08/2010 08:31:12
Originally by: Nadia Shah
bla di bla... Why does CCP choose to raise funds for certain disasters but not others? What is the criteria for which CCP must do something to help? Is it that CCP only helps certain Nations? Races? Religions?

Some clarification on this issue would ease some of the restlessness within the game.


You have the power to initiate it yourself and to have a direct influence on the game's universe and your humanitarian ambition.

It's very simple really: Dock in Jita 4-4, buy 74 plexes (maybe round it up to 100), undock in a shuttle and wait.

See? It's not that hard and I am sure that CCP will support your effort by selling you even more PLEXes. :)

Thank you.

Cailais
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2010.08.13 08:27:00 - [32]
 

Confirming CCP is the new UN.

C/D?

C.

Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
Posted - 2010.08.13 09:12:00 - [33]
 

Edited by: Jint Hikaru on 13/08/2010 09:13:42
Originally by: Nadia Shah
Some clarification on this issue would ease some of the restlessness within the game.


HAHAHA, OMG, really? restlennsess withing the game?

What a Company or Individual gives to charity is a personal choice and none of your business. If you are so concerned, why dont you make a donation.

I know a way you could free up an extra 15euros a month that you could send to charity.

yani dumyat
Minmatar
Pixie Cats
Posted - 2010.08.13 09:18:00 - [34]
 

The word hypocrisy is applicable to many charitable actions but not in the way the OP intended. Giving to one charity but not another is a choice that we all have to make, you can not give to every good cause.

What is hypocritical however is a computer company organizing plex aid for Haiti while ignoring the Congo. The DRC is a huge source of coltan which is used to make microchips, by keeping the DRC in a permanent state of warfare we depress the price of microchips and companies like CCP get to profit from the fact that computers are cheap.

The 1,500 people who've died in Pakistan are a small drop in the ocean of blood that pours out from Nigeria, Afghanistan, DRC, Sudan and other mineral rich countries. Bringing peace to these countries and allowing them control over their natural resources would lead directly to a rise in the cost of consumable goods.

The voting population of any democratic country will get rid of a government who decrease the standard of living by letting the cost of computers and consumables rise, as such it is hypocritical for anyone who lives in a democracy to give money to charity because the worst humanitarian disasters are voted for and condoned by the populations of these countries.

It seems to me that the least hypocritical thing CCP could do is donate plex money to projects associated with colonizing the moon or otherwise safeguarding the human race by getting the fek off this volatile ball of molten iron we call earth.

S3dINSTBE
Goat rapists
Posted - 2010.08.13 09:29:00 - [35]
 

Screw pakistan save the whales !!!

will munny
Posted - 2010.08.13 09:41:00 - [36]
 



How much money have you or whatever company you work for donated to the victims of this disaster?[/gold]


^^

Need a good wash anyway, now is all nice and bright, sparkly, no DUST!

yani dumyat
Minmatar
Pixie Cats
Posted - 2010.08.13 09:44:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: S3dINSTBE
Screw pakistan save the whales !!!


That's exactly what we've been doing.

You have in one small phrase summed up the western attitude very well. I did smile at your post but only to stop myself from crying.

Valkaarie
Caldari
Posted - 2010.08.13 10:21:00 - [38]
 

Why the hell should people think that CCP have to help with every disaster that happens in the world CCP is a Computer game company not a Humanitarian Relief organisation.
World Disasters are not gonna stop they will keep on happening in the future its the sad truth but you cant expect CCP to commit resources every time somthing happens its not there bag leave that to the Countrys own Goverment,UN,Charity's Etc....

will munny
Posted - 2010.08.13 10:25:00 - [39]
 

Yep, that's what that useless bunch at the UN are for...running everything like a piece of ****...expect no help from that herd of cattle.

I have noticed that those that breed like flies tendto die like flies.

Wacktopia
Sicarius.
Legion of The Damned.
Posted - 2010.08.13 10:25:00 - [40]
 

Some people chose to give to a charity whom they feel is in need. Those people tend not to then give to every other charity going regardless of how big or small.

Every year there are thousands of natural disasters and crises around the world - CCP could not reasonably donate to all of them.

Ariane VoxDei
Posted - 2010.08.13 11:04:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: alittlebirdy
Who really cares IMHO plex for hati should not have happened.

THIS!

It gives [selvsencored] like the OP a platform, or to use the words of CCP poster, this is why we can't have nice stuff.

Prove yourself weak enough to give to one beggar/gypsy/whatever and soon there is a spineless immoral swarm in your face and ppl like the op getting up your nose with demands & trying to push guilttrips.

Thread lock requested.

Sader Rykane
Amarr
The Dark Space Initiative
Revival Of The Talocan Empire
Posted - 2010.08.13 11:11:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: alittlebirdy
That would be tens of billions (about 28bill in 08)

OP is Personal attack removed.Applebabe as already shown how can you plex for something when the item does not exist?

Who really cares IMHO plex for hati should not have happened.

Aint no one giving me free money, let these damn people either make it on their own or die. Stop having 10 kids and then we can talk.

No on in the game cares.


You should go visit Haiti, you might change your mind.

And before you accuse me of stupid ****, I am Haitian-American and have been to Haiti many, many times.

Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
Posted - 2010.08.13 11:21:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Sader Rykane

You should go visit Haiti, you might change your mind.

And before you accuse me of stupid ****, I am Haitian-American and have been to Haiti many, many times.



Are you Wyclef Jean? [/humour]


Anyway, what I really, really, really don't like about this thread is the number of borderline racist comments that the OP has drawn.

Peter XZ
Gallente
Posted - 2010.08.13 11:27:00 - [44]
 

Edited by: Peter XZ on 13/08/2010 11:27:55
Dear OP

As you can see from the above replies, this is NOT the place to look for sympathy for Floods victims.

Perusing the above posts, you can deduce that a very significant number of Eve players are simply self-centred and are too busy playing video games and letting life pass them by, to care about millions dying, as long as they're not one of the millions and the Tranquility Server is not down for too long LOLOLOL

So please OP , don't look for pity here , have a nice day Smile

Sethir Khemthos
Posted - 2010.08.13 12:50:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Nadia Shah
If you remember back to the Haiti earthquake CCP decided to run a PLEX for Haiti campaign, First time CCP ever decided to show a "humanitarian" face, Yet before that never decided to PLEX for Tsunami, Pakistan Earthquake, Hurricane Katrina, Or any other natural disaster.



How much have YOU donated to help above mentioned disasters?

Atticus Fynch
Gallente
Posted - 2010.08.13 12:55:00 - [46]
 

Haiti is a veeeeeeeery poor country. Pakistan has nukes. Now you tell me, if a country has money for nukes, it has money to help its own people.

Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
Posted - 2010.08.13 13:04:00 - [47]
 

Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 13/08/2010 13:05:16
Originally by: Atticus Fynch
Haiti is a veeeeeeeery poor country. Pakistan has nukes. Now you tell me, if a country has money for nukes, it has money to help its own people.


The nuke is something like 60-70 years old. Could probably buy one from Russia for a couple months pay at this point.

Would be some good times getting that through customs.


Kara Sharalien
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
Posted - 2010.08.13 13:04:00 - [48]
 

BTW, incase this hasn't been pointed out, a hypocrite is a person who pretends to have beliefs they don't have. CCP never said they cared about the Pakistani situation, so its not hypocritical to fail to set up a plex drive.

Atticus Fynch
Gallente
Posted - 2010.08.13 14:14:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 13/08/2010 13:05:16
Originally by: Atticus Fynch
Haiti is a veeeeeeeery poor country. Pakistan has nukes. Now you tell me, if a country has money for nukes, it has money to help its own people.


The nuke is something like 60-70 years old. Could probably buy one from Russia for a couple months pay at this point.

Would be some good times getting that through customs.




It doesn't work that way. Nukes have to be continually tested, maintenance and upgraded. You don't just store a nuke and forget it.

Shawna Gray
Gallente
Posted - 2010.08.13 14:22:00 - [50]
 

If you read this thread you can easily understand why there is no big campaigns to help pakistan. Just about everyone is getting really tired of people from that part of the world.

BrundleMeth
Caldari
Temporal Mechanics
Posted - 2010.08.13 14:32:00 - [51]
 

Edited by: BrundleMeth on 13/08/2010 14:40:12
Originally by: Nadia Shah
Some clarification on this issue would ease some of the restlessness within the game.


Take a look at the entire world. NO ONE CARES. That is why the UN started begging (whining) for countries to start donating. The fact that CCP doesn't do something has nothing to do with Hypocrasy. Then can choose to support what they want.

And the fact is there is NO restlessness within the game, your post is the first one I've seen.

All the survivors will end up doing is piling into a boat and floating to some other country to beg for hand outs. And as one other poster said this is the las place to look for sympathy. People are here for fun...

Originally by: Sader Rykane
And before you accuse me of stupid ****, I am Haitian-American and have been to Haiti many, many times.


Next time get a one way ticket. Give the return money to the people...

Zia Aiz
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2010.08.13 14:51:00 - [52]
 

Edited by: Zia Aiz on 13/08/2010 14:52:18
I highly encourage any company that wants to donate some money to a good cause.
But lets face it, the word is full of people that need money, CCP isn't a charity case.

CCP has put in effort in the Haiti thing and we can't keep expecting CCP to donate to everything that happens in the world.


To respond to the plex changes:

While CCP idea of making people able to move plex around obviously makes CCP more money, it's not like they force you to risk undocking with plexes or force you to convert real money into plex in the first place.

Like everything in this game, it's a risk vs reward, CCP has been making money off people doing dumb things in the game ever since they made you able to convert real money into isk.

It's not like CCP has 10 mill active accounts, i do think CCP needs it money to be able to do what the players ask them to do (see CSM).

I say CCP keeps it's money to employ more people so the game gets improved faster & it's good for the economy as well (wich is also a disaster for some countries).

Catherine Frasier
Posted - 2010.08.13 14:51:00 - [53]
 

Edited by: Catherine Frasier on 13/08/2010 15:06:52
Originally by: BrundleMeth
Take a look at the entire world. NO ONE CARES.
Except all those countries like the US, UK, Canada, Japan, the EC who have donated money, supplies and workers, NGOs like the Red Cross, millions of private individuals and even private corporations like Coke(!) who are donating and offering assistance. Yeah, clearly NO ONE (other than the millions of us who care) CARES.

Put another way, speak for yourself. If you don't care that's one thing but don't tar the rest of us with that brush.

Originally by: Shawna Gray
Just about everyone is getting really tired of people from that part of the world.
And again, speak for yourself.

Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
Posted - 2010.08.13 14:58:00 - [54]
 

Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 13/08/2010 15:16:43
Originally by: Atticus Fynch
It doesn't work that way. Nukes have to be continually tested, maintenance and upgraded. You don't just store a nuke and forget it.


They also say not to worry about the many nukes which have sunk below the sea. Or the fallout from poorly concieved high atmosphere and deep ocean nuclear tests. Or the uranium which powers most satellites, which will shower isotopes over the Earth when they burn up on reentry. The idea they're being responsible with the technology is something of a myth. There's literally tens of thousands of nukes which have just been laying around in various states of disrepair in the US and Russia since the cold war.

Unless someone comes out and finally proves to the world there's a link between all this and the meteoric rise of cancers, like thyriod for example, which was extremely rare before the first nuclear tests in Trinity Nevada, and started appearing downwind from there after, and in increasing numbers over wider ranges year after year, you can expect this relaxed attitude to continue.

cheet sheet
Posted - 2010.08.13 15:07:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: Jint Hikaru
Edited by: Jint Hikaru on 13/08/2010 09:13:42
Originally by: Nadia Shah
Some clarification on this issue would ease some of the restlessness within the game.


HAHAHA, OMG, really? restlennsess withing the game?

What a Company or Individual gives to charity is a personal choice and none of your business. If you are so concerned, why dont you make a donation.

I know a way you could free up an extra 15euros a month that you could send to charity.


THIS

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2010.08.13 15:42:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 13/08/2010 15:16:43
Originally by: Atticus Fynch
It doesn't work that way. Nukes have to be continually tested, maintenance and upgraded. You don't just store a nuke and forget it.


They also say not to worry about the many nukes which have sunk below the sea. Or the fallout from poorly concieved high atmosphere and deep ocean nuclear tests. Or the uranium which powers most satellites, which will shower isotopes over the Earth when they burn up on reentry. The idea they're being responsible with the technology is something of a myth. There's literally tens of thousands of nukes which have just been laying around in various states of disrepair in the US and Russia since the cold war.

Unless someone comes out and finally proves to the world there's a link between all this and the meteoric rise of cancers, like thyriod for example, which was extremely rare before the first nuclear tests in Trinity Nevada, and started appearing downwind from there after, and in increasing numbers over wider ranges year after year, you can expect this relaxed attitude to continue.


Please tell me you're trolling and not actually this igno-

Oh wait, it's you. Carry on.

Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
Posted - 2010.08.13 15:51:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: Malcanis
Please tell me you're trolling and not actually this igno-

Oh wait, it's you. Carry on.


Sorry for shattering your world view there, Pollyanna.

There must be something good on TV for you to watch instead.

CCP Zymurgist


Gallente
C C P
Posted - 2010.08.13 16:02:00 - [58]
 

Moved from General Discussion.

Cebraio
Posted - 2010.08.13 16:04:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Shawna Gray
If you read this thread you can easily understand why there is no big campaigns to help pakistan. Just about everyone is getting really tired of people from that part of the world.

Appointing yourself as spokeswoman for the whole world, huh?

Originally by: Zia Aiz

I highly encourage any company that wants to donate some money to a good cause.
But lets face it, the word is full of people that need money, CCP isn't a charity case.

CCP has put in effort in the Haiti thing and we can't keep expecting CCP to donate to everything that happens in the world.


CCP hasn't donated. We have.

Vogue
Short Bus Pole Dancers
Posted - 2010.08.13 16:14:00 - [60]
 

Well Pakistan has spent a fortune on a nuclear weapon program. To counter India's nuclear weapon program. This is typical military calculus for a state. A strong state to protect its citizens. This overides providing simpler help to citizens such as electricity, water, schools and hospitals. If you are killed in a way that also affronts the country your from then politicians will make you a martyr, rally and swear revenge. If you are killed in another innocuous way such as been run over. Then you will get attention from only your immediate social circle and family. Strange world eh.


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