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Posted - 2010.08.10 17:54:00 - [1]

I am making a build to complement my Retriever when Dual Account mining.

I wanted the Iteron to be able to kill rats in 0.7 space without having to remove the Mining Drones from my Ret.

I have tried to balance the need for massive Cargo Capacity with the likelyhood of being Suicide Ganked.

What i need help with is .... Will this loadout offer me some protection against Gankers or am i just wasting ISK in fitting Shields and Invuls?

Please give me a hand ...


[Iteron Mark V, Iteron Mark V: Iteron V - High Sec Mining Assistant]

Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II

Invulnerability Field II
Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
PL-0 Shipment Probe

75mm Gatling Rail II
Small Tractor Beam I

Medium Cargohold Optimization I
Medium Cargohold Optimization I
Medium Cargohold Optimization I

Lady Ayeipsia
Posted - 2010.08.10 18:27:00 - [2]

I doubt may suicide gankers will go for your Itty. It's just not worth it if all you are carrying is ore.

As for mining help, well... why not throw a mining laser 2 on the Itty instead, have it actively mine too, while keeping combat drones on the retriever to handle the killing. This way, if you do fill up your itty, it can run to station and you aren't losing your killing power. Plus, given that it takes forever for an itty to lock, wouldn't the drones be quicker to save you?

Also, why the shipment probe on your Itty? Do I not know my items, and that's actually a survey scanner type? If not, why have that on there? Do you plan to scan any ship that shows up in the belt? If so, why? It will take you way too long to lock, so if they are coming to gank you, by the time you lock, the gank will be over. So why the extra module? Is it just so you can overheat your modules and spread damage?

Darunia Goron
Posted - 2010.08.10 19:30:00 - [3]

As a solo miner myself working 0.5 space, let me tell you this:
Don't even bother trying to use your Itty on the rats.

Put combat drones in your Retriever; you've got enough space for 5 light drones in there. If you're really bent on using mining drones (I don't use them, for me the protection afforded by combat drones far outweighs the relatively low yield they provide), then use 2 or 3 mining drones and the rest should be light scouts. I use 3 lights myself when I'm mining and have no troubles at all with the 0.5 rats.

The best advice I can give you is to train for a Hulk as quickly as you can. With its 50m3 drone bay and 50mbit bandwidth, you could fly 5 medium scouts, or you can fit 5 mining drones alongside 5 lights, and recall the mining drones when rats spawn and take them out with your lights. You really want to recall the mining drones as soon as rats spawn anyway, cuz if they get targeted (and they will!) they'll pop damned fast!

If you're dead set on using your second account to deal with the rats and your miner to focus wholly on mining (including mining drones), then I would recommend standing guard in a combat ship (frigate would work well enough, but cruiser or even BC if you want extra anti-rat potential) while your miner fills up a jetcan, then dock and bring out your Itty to empty the can (I haven't crunched the numbers, but knowing that my un-rigged Itty III can haul about half a can I have a hard time imagining that a full can won't fit comfortably inside your Itty). If you're worried about ore thieves or can flippers, don't -- at most they'll make off with a few m3 of your ore, at which point you just haul in what you've currently got. If it's really bad, move to another system -- I solo jetcan mine, and aside from one instance years ago (in a system so very, very far from my current home) no one has stolen my ore nor flipped my cans. And I do this in a Hulk for an hour at a time -- that's nearly 3 full jetcans there, takes many, many trips in my Itty to bring it all in!


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