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ShadowandLight
Amarr
Cryptonym Sleepers
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2010.08.07 20:56:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: ShadowandLight on 08/08/2010 14:55:29
This is e x a c t l y what CCP wanted...

BTW, good job orphans :)

http://mofo.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=7309710

Originally by: CCP Incognito
Originally by: Steve Celeste
Would have been a nice drop, too bad that CCP set the drop chance for that item to ABSOLUTELY ZERO


I would like to nip this in the but, PLEX drop just like any other cargo using exactly the same rules. If the PLEX are in a can and the can doesn't drop as loot then everything in the can doesn't drop as loot.

In this case it was one role of the die and the can didn't drop, so bye bye all the contents.


Other then the argument that you want all items in EVE to be equal in how they are treated

I see not other reason to make plex's movable other then the hope that something like this happens.

Personally I see it as nothing but a greedy move by CCP.

However I am a capitalist, so sir, my hat is off to you :)

andeira
Posted - 2010.08.07 20:57:00 - [2]
 

http://ad0pt.evekb.co.uk/?a=kill_related&kll_id=1539031

api verified there happy happy joy joy for ccp

Cebraio
Posted - 2010.08.07 21:05:00 - [3]
 

How do you api verify?

Aessoroz
Nohbdy.
Posted - 2010.08.07 21:06:00 - [4]
 

Over $1000 down the drain.

Wave Nagai
Caldari
The Mercurial Order
Posted - 2010.08.07 21:09:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Aessoroz
Over $1000 down the drain.


Not exactly. It goes straight into CCP's wallet.

Telvani
Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber
Posted - 2010.08.07 21:10:00 - [6]
 

yes all piece of CCP's master plan...Rolling Eyes

I really don't care if CCP gets a few more Ł a month because some people are this pants-on-head ******ed - as a player of well mental health, all this extra money is basically getting you more dev time (where this time is spent however is a discussion for another time and place, namely the next 18months and every other thread). Nice kill though.

Steve Celeste
Overdogs
Posted - 2010.08.07 21:14:00 - [7]
 

Would have been a nice drop, too bad that CCP set the drop chance for that item to ABSOLUTELY ZERO

Cailais
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2010.08.07 21:14:00 - [8]
 

Mr CCP ran of giggling into the night.

C.


Sig Sour
Posted - 2010.08.07 21:15:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Sig Sour on 07/08/2010 21:16:05
Is it that if you eliminate one piece of the equation that you can finally understand it and it makes you upset when it is simplified to level?

this is you

Cat o'Ninetails
Caldari
Rancer Defence League
Posted - 2010.08.07 21:18:00 - [10]
 

just wow lol Shocked

its saturday night so i guess the genius that dreamt this up is getting bought a round of drinks in Reykjavík right now


x

Mamba Lev
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2010.08.07 21:18:00 - [11]
 

Could be drunk but..

http://ad0pt.evekb.co.uk/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1539031 kill in 0.9

http://mofo.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=7309710 kill in 0.0

If it is real only CCP is the winner.

Dirk Mortice
Posted - 2010.08.07 21:18:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Steve Celeste
Would have been a nice drop, too bad that CCP set the drop chance for that item to ABSOLUTELY ZERO




ShockedShockedShockedShockedShocked

ConfusedConfusedMadMadLaughingLaughingEvil or Very MadEvil or Very Mad

:tinfoil:

Wookie 1
Caldari
Nex Exercitus
Raiden.
Posted - 2010.08.07 21:25:00 - [13]
 

What I just posted in other thread

Did CCP make him terminally stupid? No

Did they tell him to undock in Jita with 74 PLEX'es in the hold of a Cyno Kessy? No

Should PLEX'es be treated any different once they stop being money and start being In-game items? No they shouldnt you could lose some faction stuff worth that much easy and that is likely to be the worse loss.

Sofia Roseburn
Caldari
Lone Star Exploration
Posted - 2010.08.07 21:25:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Mamba Lev
Could be drunk but..

http://ad0pt.evekb.co.uk/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1539031 kill in 0.9

http://mofo.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=7309710 kill in 0.0

If it is real only CCP is the winner.


Some killboards classify the system name for several hours to stop people using them as intel sources for camps.

Aessoroz
Nohbdy.
Posted - 2010.08.07 21:25:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Mamba Lev
Could be drunk but..

http://ad0pt.evekb.co.uk/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1539031 kill in 0.9

http://mofo.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=7309710 kill in 0.0

If it is real only CCP is the winner.


All smart killboards block out the location for about a hour, it clearly says Classifield(0.0)

Corozan Aspinall
Perkone
Posted - 2010.08.07 21:26:00 - [16]
 

This makes me deeply uneasy. Feels like a line has been crossed.

I didn't like the proposals when they were made public and if this is genuine it is a sad day indeed imho.

EVE is a game. I get that. Its also a business. I get that. But there is a fine line between entertainment and gambling.

Wait till the press get a hold of this and watch the hysterical fall-out with concern ..Sad

Vee Raa
Minmatar
Cadre Assault Force
Posted - 2010.08.07 21:26:00 - [17]
 

Darwin rules Very Happy

DMF KingBob
Posted - 2010.08.07 21:27:00 - [18]
 

special thx to all involved paries, the kestrel idiot and CCP Zulu(park) for this

PLEXes wich are created from real money are sucessfully Removed from the Game with out any usage for any players

the worth was around 36 x 2 PLEX @ 34,99(not existing anymore) = 1259,64€ (still in ccp's Hand)

Rly a nice work


Wookie 1
Caldari
Nex Exercitus
Raiden.
Posted - 2010.08.07 21:29:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Wookie 1 on 07/08/2010 21:30:52
Thing is as I said they were once money but they stopped being money when they became an in-game item technically at least.

As I also said did CCP make him do it?

Whats more I think people are being quite ridiculous about this it make sense from a game design point of view.

Also it is likely that those PLEX were sold to him for ISK by somebody who had already had theirs monies worth out of them (as an ISk source).

DMF KingBob
Posted - 2010.08.07 21:31:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Wookie 1
What I just posted in other thread

Did CCP make him terminally stupid? No

Did they tell him to undock in Jita with 74 PLEX'es in the hold of a Cyno Kessy? No

Should PLEX'es be treated any different once they stop being money and start being In-game items? No they shouldnt you could lose some faction stuff worth that much easy and that is likely to be the worse loss.


PLEXs ITEMS are created from real Money and should not be able to leave the game -.-
or does the real money leave ccps pocket too?

Yakumo Smith
Gallente
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.08.07 21:34:00 - [21]
 

Awesome!

Wookie 1
Caldari
Nex Exercitus
Raiden.
Posted - 2010.08.07 21:34:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: Wookie 1 on 07/08/2010 21:35:55
Quote:
DMF PLEXs ITEMS are created from real Money and should not be able to leave the game -.-
or does the real money leave ccps pocket too?


No because ultimatly the transaction to CCP has completed, I could sell you a car but if you then crash it off the forecourt with no insurance then its no longer my problem, real money changed hands for the car but ultimatly I do not have any legal requirement to protect your investment once it is no longer under my resposibility, (as these PLEX'es were) if Game Time had been lost through a bug then of cousre it is CCP's problem otherwise its not.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.08.07 21:35:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Vee Raa
Darwin rules Very Happy
The final proof that EVE players aren't smarter… LaughingLaughing

As for "onoz, CCP steals our moneys!!", if aystra wants to give the company hand-outs, who are we to say he can't?

Omal Oma
Shadowed Command
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2010.08.07 21:38:00 - [24]
 

Wow, that dude was pretty stupid for not having an insta undock and for not carrying them in something with a bit more tank.

1. Shoulda had an insta undock.
2. Shoulda been in something with more HP for concord response.
3. Didn't inject the PLEX's before undocking. (WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO CARRY THEM AROUND?!?)


Cat o'Ninetails
Caldari
Rancer Defence League
Posted - 2010.08.07 21:40:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Wookie 1
Edited by: Wookie 1 on 07/08/2010 21:35:55
Quote:
DMF PLEXs ITEMS are created from real Money and should not be able to leave the game -.-
or does the real money leave ccps pocket too?


No because ultimatly the transaction to CCP has completed, I could sell you a car but if you then crash it off the forecourt with no insurance then its no longer my problem, real money changed hands for the car but ultimatly I do not have any legal requirement to protect your investment once it is no longer under my resposibility, (as these PLEX'es were) if Game Time had been lost through a bug then of cousre it is CCP's problem otherwise its not.


It's more like I sell you a round of drinks and then trip you up once you leave the bar tbh lol

x

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.08.07 21:43:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Corozan Aspinall
This makes me deeply uneasy. Feels like a line has been crossed.

I didn't like the proposals when they were made public and if this is genuine it is a sad day indeed imho.

EVE is a game. I get that. Its also a business. I get that. But there is a fine line between entertainment and gambling.

Wait till the press get a hold of this and watch the hysterical fall-out with concern ..Sad


The line of stupid was crossed for sure.

in a frig no less.


Wookie 1
Caldari
Nex Exercitus
Raiden.
Posted - 2010.08.07 21:43:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: Wookie 1 on 07/08/2010 21:44:40
Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails
It's more like I sell you a round of drinks and then trip you up once you leave the bar tbh lol x


Did CCP fire the shots? were they the gunman behind the virtual grassy knoll? No CCP did not kill them their stupidity did simple as that.


DMF KingBob
Posted - 2010.08.07 21:44:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Wookie 1
Edited by: Wookie 1 on 07/08/2010 21:35:55
Quote:
DMF PLEXs ITEMS are created from real Money and should not be able to leave the game -.-
or does the real money leave ccps pocket too?


No because ultimatly the transaction to CCP has completed, I could sell you a car but if you then crash it off the forecourt with no insurance then its no longer my problem, real money changed hands for the car but ultimatly I do not have any legal requirement to protect your investment once it is no longer under my resposibility, (as these PLEX'es were) if Game Time had been lost through a bug then of cousre it is CCP's problem otherwise its not.



the Car-wreck can be used or disassambled or recycled or maybe repaired and not de-spawn from our world

http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/1008/sehrdoof.png

King Gore
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2010.08.07 21:46:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Omal Oma
Wow, that dude was pretty stupid for not having an insta undock and for not carrying them in something with a bit more tank.

1. Shoulda had an insta undock.
2. Shoulda been in something with more HP for concord response.
3. Didn't inject the PLEX's before undocking. (WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO CARRY THEM AROUND?!?)




Trade.

Sky Marshal
IMpAct Corp
Not Found.
Posted - 2010.08.07 21:46:00 - [30]
 

Edited by: Sky Marshal on 07/08/2010 21:47:46

Originally by: Wookie 1
No because ultimatly the transaction to CCP has completed, I could sell you a car but if you then crash it off the forecourt with no insurance then its no longer my problem, real money changed hands for the car but ultimatly I do not have any legal requirement to protect your investment once it is no longer under my resposibility, (as these PLEX'es were) if Game Time had been lost through a bug then of cousre it is CCP's problem otherwise its not.


Consider that as a life insurance. You would lost everything you spared because you lost the paper who formalize the contract between you and the insurance company ?

Plex is exactly that. A Plex is a virtual paper who contain a non-nominative contract between a player and CCP where the last one has to provide a service to the owner : 1 month of Game Time. So the transaction is not completed, as Plex can be activated at any time, and wasn't at this time.


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