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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
Posted - 2010.08.06 15:37:00 - [91]
 

I don't even know how consoles still exist since computers became more affordable.

Bluefix
Gnu Terror Corps
Posted - 2010.08.06 15:40:00 - [92]
 

No, I would consider it if it was for pc and not buy to win, but even then the game is lacking feature wise (with what we know so far)

davcin
Caldari
davcin Corp
Posted - 2010.08.06 15:41:00 - [93]
 

In 18 months or now, NO!

Khors
El Barco Pirata
Posted - 2010.08.06 15:45:00 - [94]
 

Originally by: Professor Tarantula
I don't even know how consoles still exist since computers became more affordable.


Because they just work. People no longer have the patience to troubleshoot for every second game you buy and install.

Ryhss
Caldari
The Excecutorans
Posted - 2010.08.06 15:45:00 - [95]
 

Edited by: Ryhss on 06/08/2010 15:46:25
Originally by: RaTTuS
NO
What he said!

Barakkus
Posted - 2010.08.06 15:46:00 - [96]
 

Originally by: John Ellsworth
Originally by: Barakkus
Originally by: zz01shagsme
I might, Will need an xbox first as I am a PC player at heart.


I was going to do that, until I found out how much an xbox costs...I haven't bought a console in 10 years, figured prices were about the same, I was wrong. Looks like just to play dust will run $400 lol, screw that.


your looking in the wrong places/time

got mine on sale at wallmart 225.00 us.


I wouldn't pay more than $100 for a console, my playstation was entertainment for about a year, that's probably how an xbox would end up for me too lol.

Korizan
Hysterically Unforgiving
Posted - 2010.08.06 15:57:00 - [97]
 

The last console game I owned was on an Atari 2600.
Need I same more ?

Nisanu
Posted - 2010.08.06 15:59:00 - [98]
 

Originally by: Isten Baba
No.

I honestly don't understand the decision to develop Dust at all. Please focus on your core expertise/income, CCP!

One can argue about the merits of Incarna, but at least it is focussed on CCP's target audience. Dust is almost completely unrelated to anything CCP has done (they could never compete with specialised developers), and unlike what its customers (PC users!) are looking for. I fear that Dust will go down in the history books as a case study in poor management choices. It even endangers EVE's success by alienating the fanbase and draining resources from their core product.

Oh, and anyone who thinks that Dust customers will flock to EVE, or that Dust will be able to maintain a long-term following, or that it will truly affect EVE game play in any meaningful way, is seriously deluded.

Bad. Really bad.


This.

There are many historic examples of companies losing sight of their core business, and eventually losing their customer base.

Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
Posted - 2010.08.06 16:10:00 - [99]
 

Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 06/08/2010 16:17:31
Originally by: Khors
Originally by: Professor Tarantula
I don't even know how consoles still exist since computers became more affordable.


Because they just work. People no longer have the patience to troubleshoot for every second game you buy and install.


That might have been the case about 15-20 years ago, but now there's nothing to it. Even installing new hardware, which used to take an intimate knowledge of many technical things, is now as simple as hooking it up, letting the OS install the drivers and configure things, and you're usually good to go with no further work. Hell, look at Macintosh, may as well be fisher price putting those out. The days of people needing to do everything manually themselves are mostly behind us, and even on the rare chance you do have to solve some exotic problem manually the answer is always just a quick google search away.

This does not, however, take into account people who screw their systems up by checking an unchecking boxes they don't understand, then forgetting they did. That leads to most of the 'troubleshooting' you see these days.

Linji Yixuan
Posted - 2010.08.06 16:19:00 - [100]
 

If Dust was available on PC I'd buy it for sure. Since it isnt I am not buying it.

Antihrist Pripravnik
Scorpion Road Industry
Posted - 2010.08.06 16:21:00 - [101]
 

No.

Ratnix Foisen
Posted - 2010.08.06 16:28:00 - [102]
 

Edited by: Ratnix Foisen on 06/08/2010 16:34:42
Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Originally by: Khors
Originally by: Professor Tarantula
I don't even know how consoles still exist since computers became more affordable.


Because they just work. People no longer have the patience to troubleshoot for every second game you buy and install.


That might have been the case about 15-20 years ago, but now there's nothing to it. Even installing new hardware, which used to take an intimate knowledge of many technical things, is now as simple as hooking it up, letting the OS install the drivers and configure things, and you're usually good to go with no further work. Hell, look at Macintosh, may as well be fisher price putting those out. The days of people needing to do everything manually themselves are mostly behind us, and even on the rare chance you do have to do something manually the answer is always just a quick google search away.

This does not, however, take into account people who screw their systems up by checking an unchecking boxes they don't understand, then forgetting they did. That leads to most of the 'troubleshooting' you see these days.


Consoles are great for people who have kids.
Which would you rather have your young child playing on, your computer that has access to all kinds of **** and other nasties you don't want your kid to have access to or a console that for the most part can really only play games.
Then you throw in the fact that a majority of PC owners are computer illiterate. Then their kids get on the computer and start surfing the darker side of the net and end up getting virus after virus. Most parents aren't competent enough to handle the solution themselves so they think they have to pay somebody to fix it for them.
I could go on and on about that aspect of the console being better for a parent to have for their kids to play games on over a computer.

You also have to look at what started back in the 70's and 80's with the latchkey kids. Once both parents started working and then more and more households turned into single parent homes, kids more and more started coming home to empty houses. You then had parents who spent the entire day working and then had to come home and do the housework, cooking and whatnot. Parents started spending less and less time with their children and started looking at other forms of entertainment to keep them out of their hair. Back before the consoles really started to take off with the NES the solution was to throw the kids in front of the TV for hours on end. Once the consoles really started to take off and not cost too much to be unaffordable it was much easier for parents to buy and console and a TV for the kids and throw this in their room.

So now you have a generation of adults who have spent most of their lives with a console to play with so they are always going to be popular with them. They in turn have kids and introduce their kids to the same thing they knew about.

Now that computer are so affordable and are much easier to use then they were back in the 90's there will start to be a change in the type of entertainment that people start to use. But that is going to take a few more years until the majority of the people born after 2k start having kids of their own.

Will consoles ever die out? I don't believe so. They will just turn more into computers than they already are just running their own OS instead of Windows or whatever. Look at the PS3, it isn't that far off from your basic PC, just not as powerful

Edit: you also have to look at consoles from a developers standpoint. Consoles are much easier to program for. The hardware and the software are the same on every console. Developers know exactly what they are getting into when they make a game for a console.
PC's on the other hand, there are many different hardware and software configuration out there that can cause tons of problems when developing a game for them. It will always be easier to develop for a consle

Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
Posted - 2010.08.06 16:36:00 - [103]
 

Agree on all counts Ratnix, but i won't share your belief that consoles will be around for many years to come until i see the the next gen ones unveiled. Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft have been unusually silent about any plans to continue past this generation.

digitalwanderer
Gallente
DF0 incorporated
Posted - 2010.08.06 16:39:00 - [104]
 

Edited by: digitalwanderer on 06/08/2010 16:40:55
I play plenty of first person shooters on my PC these days,with the main one being battlefield bad company 2,and using ATI's eyefinity tech to power up 3,24 inch displays with a combined resolution of 5760*1200,and enjoying the cutting edge graphics and some parts of the environment within the game are also destructible,and explosives,artillery or rocket launchers can and do make craters on the ground,which can be used to hide anti tank mines more effectively.


Dice's frostbite engine is basically more advanced than the Unreal 3 engine used with dust,while the X360 console at the hardware level is much inferior to my PC(X360 came out in 2005),and only drives 1 display,not 3,so how the hell has dust any chance to impress me or any others with similar high end PC setups and playing games using more advanced engines,i really don't know.


I also don't think that the average console user will give a rats ass about eve's storyline either,so it might end up as just another FPS game for an outdated console,of which there's already plenty of those to choose from,and they use the same graphics engine that Dust will(unreal 3).

alittlebirdy
Posted - 2010.08.06 16:46:00 - [105]
 

let me think about it for a... NO

Yldrad
The Dandy KillerS
Posted - 2010.08.06 16:58:00 - [106]
 

Don't know. Will it be aviable on PS3?

theSONARnet
Gallente
IT Alliance
Posted - 2010.08.06 16:59:00 - [107]
 

no

Ran Khanon
Amarr
Swords Horses and Heavy Metal
Posted - 2010.08.06 17:00:00 - [108]
 

Dust is obviously aimed at a different crowd as EVE caters for. CCP intended this, so I guess they won't be surprised about our many 'noes'. A "No" for me as well.

PC based harsh and ruthless sandboxes for the win. *primes another landmine*

Niccolado Starwalker
Gallente
Shadow Templars
Posted - 2010.08.06 17:23:00 - [109]
 

Originally by: zz01shagsme
I might, Will need an xbox first as I am a PC player at heart.


Nope. I loate FPS games, and I dont have any kinds of gamebox at all. Dust must be suprimely and beyond everything perfect to make me buy a gamebox plus the game.


Stitcher
Caldari
Posted - 2010.08.06 17:38:00 - [110]
 

man, the elitism and jadedness in this thread is stifling.

I'm TOTALLY getting Dust. Fortunately, I already own both a 360 and a PS3. What they're lacking is a decent MMOFPS - hopefully, that's what DUST will turn out to be.

Y Berion
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.08.06 17:45:00 - [111]
 

If Dust was made for PC, I would probably give it a try - FPS games can be fun.

Ioci
Gallente
Space Mermaids
Posted - 2010.08.06 17:48:00 - [112]
 

Originally by: Guilliman R
Lol you're joking. If it works just as well as EVE it'll be the buggiest console game I ever know. I wouldn't touch it with a 50ft long pole.

Tell you what, since EVE players pay it's development cost, how about giving each EVE player a free copy?


This.
And I still wouldnt play it. More grind in the hamburger factory? Pass.

Magnus Orin
Minmatar
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.08.06 17:49:00 - [113]
 

If it is released for PS3 I will.

Just because I believe that CCP should be spending its resources elsewhere, doesn't mean I won't still try out their new games.

Pesky LaRue
Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels
Etherium Cartel
Posted - 2010.08.06 17:53:00 - [114]
 

Edited by: Pesky LaRue on 06/08/2010 17:54:04
Originally by: Khors
Because they just work. People no longer have the patience to troubleshoot for every second game you buy and install.
Seriously, I can't remember the last time I had to troubleshoot a game, let alone "every second game". With the exception of trying to run a few older games under W7 and having to figure out what needs to be done to run a 7-year old game on a 1-year old OS, I don't think I've had to troubleshoot a game since installing Windows XP back in 2001. You might wanna upgrade from that 386 or MacClassic or whatever you're using :P

And to the OP: I have an Xbox already so, yup, I'll be picking it up to try it out at the very least.

digitalwanderer
Gallente
DF0 incorporated
Posted - 2010.08.06 18:01:00 - [115]
 

Edited by: digitalwanderer on 06/08/2010 18:02:17
Originally by: Stitcher
man, the elitism and jadedness in this thread is stifling.

I'm TOTALLY getting Dust. Fortunately, I already own both a 360 and a PS3. What they're lacking is a decent MMOFPS - hopefully, that's what DUST will turn out to be.



Standards are getting pretty high for game development,with some taking 5~6 years to make,and they're still not out,and they're just FPS games in the end.

One that comes to mind is from the company that invented the FPS game,id software,and their rage game,wich uses their latest Tech 5 graphics engine,has been in development ever since Doom 3 came out in 2004,and will only get released in 2011,and there will be a console version of it.

The same applies to Crysis 2,and battlefield bad company 2,and battlefield 3,and gears of war 3,the latter made by the company that developed the engine that Dust will use(Epic games),and many other FPS games available in consoles,so i don't think that at least in the graphics portion of dust,it's going to stand out when compared to the that kind of competition,so it'll have to rely on gameplay to stand out.


The market for FPS games in consoles is pretty full basically.

Stitcher
Caldari
Posted - 2010.08.06 18:13:00 - [116]
 

Originally by: digitalwanderer
The market for FPS games in consoles is pretty full basically.


And? that doesn't mean a product can't be good, it just means it has a harder time standing out from the crowd.

Mykael Skychild
Did I just do that
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2010.08.06 18:19:00 - [117]
 

I probably will. My only worry about Dust is that console FPS games don't have the staying power that MMO's do. So two years after Dust is out nobody will be playing it and there will be a huge hole in the expanded Eve universe that nobody cares about but is still somehow important.

K'uata Sayus
Posted - 2010.08.06 18:33:00 - [118]
 

Right after I schedule my lobotomy, so I have the right mindset.

Marlona Sky
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.08.06 18:35:00 - [119]
 

Hell yes I'm going to buy it. Why? For the massive amount of tears it will generate for EVE-Online. All these "I'm a PC only person and refuse to play any other platform!" will be crying all over the forums when I take my squad of DUSTers and **** up their planet ****.

I will also **** up their spaceships via EVE as well, just to double **** them off. Twisted Evil

I will be controlling both their games, even though they can only play one. Laughing

Also calling it now, the massive amount of threadnoughts in these forums from babies who don't like console players having an affect on their internet spaceships demanding DUST be completely severed from EVE so they can spin the ship in peace.

So please, please keep the "It's not fair DUST is console only!" tears flowing. They are the best. Wink

jitawhore
Posted - 2010.08.06 18:36:00 - [120]
 

FU*K YEAH i will be buying it and to all the peasants out there buy a FUC&ING Xbox KEEP IT UP CCP DAMN THE BUGS FULL SPEED AHEAD WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT Twisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted Evil


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