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Ja'Dur Deathwalker
Minmatar
Rookies Academy
Rookie Empire
Posted - 2010.08.05 12:40:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Ja''Dur Deathwalker on 05/08/2010 12:42:37
Ok, If you are in a pirate corp (Arrrrr!!!!)
You have no GCC, your corp mate has no GCC

You rep him,
He is -10 sec status, you get GCC

WTF Shocked

I could understand it if he had a GCC and you repped him,
This is forcing people to go further towards -10 for doing nice things to a former pirate who has not done anythng naughty for a while,

CCP come on and remmove the GCC for repping a crim when not aggressed....

Creepy Goat
Collateral.
Posted - 2010.08.05 13:11:00 - [2]
 

You assisted a criminal, and then are surprised you get a Global Criminal Countdown?

Neutral

Jack Norris
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.08.05 13:14:00 - [3]
 

That makes perfect sense...

Do you know that its a crime to aid a criminal in RL right?

Ja'Dur Deathwalker
Minmatar
Rookies Academy
Rookie Empire
Posted - 2010.08.05 13:18:00 - [4]
 

ok i am -9.38
my corp mate is -6.3

Ihave GCC - he reps me - sec hit + GCC fine

I dont have GCC neither does he - he reps me he gets sec hit and GCC.... HUH!!!!

so a criminal helping a criminal when they havent done anything recently they still get flagged, and go further negative, - this happened to me and it instantly annulled the 2 days of ratting i had been up to.

Creepy Goat
Collateral.
Posted - 2010.08.05 13:20:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Creepy Goat on 05/08/2010 13:20:02
Originally by: Ja'Dur Deathwalker
helping a criminal


Hit the nail on the head.

Jack Norris
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.08.05 13:23:00 - [6]
 

obvious solution is stop repping each other

Gilgamesh1980
The Black Rabbits
The Gurlstas Associates
Posted - 2010.08.05 13:24:00 - [7]
 

well yes and know (sorry am bored atm)

if a criminal in RL was injured badly and you administered first aid, you would not be assisting a criminal....


discuss

Ja'Dur Deathwalker
Minmatar
Rookies Academy
Rookie Empire
Posted - 2010.08.05 13:25:00 - [8]
 

so i need to rep our pos, and we set up a spider cap transfer, we all get gcc
it doesnt make sense,

its suggesting that if you are negative sec status you cannot take part in any fleet action or work with your corp without going further negative
i don't think that its right. specially a corp mate.

Jack Norris
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.08.05 13:34:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Gilgamesh1980
well yes and know (sorry am bored atm)

if a criminal in RL was injured badly and you administered first aid, you would not be assisting a criminal....discuss


You haven't been to Texas have you?

FreddyFreedom
Posted - 2010.08.05 15:06:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Gilgamesh1980
well yes and know (sorry am bored atm)

if a criminal in RL was injured badly and you administered first aid, you would not be assisting a criminal....


discuss


Might be able to swing it on a 'good samaritan' law. Though if he happened to survive, you'd probably get sued by him for infringing on his right to die.

If you were in Texas, I think you can just finish the job and get off under the 'he needed killin' defense. Laughing

Keitaro Baka
Babylon Scientific and Industrial Enterprises
Babylon Project
Posted - 2010.08.05 16:04:00 - [11]
 

see what you need to do there is all get outlaw status

person helping outlaw --> gcc and fun
outlaw helping outlaw --> wut wut he outlaw already

so keep spider tanking cap swapping and such and get down to -10, you'll love it

Zverofaust
Gallente
Ascetic Virtues
Posted - 2010.08.06 00:55:00 - [12]
 

Point is, the cops will come after you for helping a criminal but not go after the criminal until he GCCs.

What's even more hysterical is that if you're -10 and you rep one of your own drones you'll get GCC and the popo will come get you.

Xereyn
Posted - 2010.08.06 05:12:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Gilgamesh1980
well yes and know (sorry am bored atm)

if a criminal in RL was injured badly and you administered first aid, you would not be assisting a criminal....


discuss


However, if a criminal's getaway car was broken down and you, knowing, or with good reason to know, that he was a criminal (given that actions which will incur a sec hit generally have a warning flash up before you do them; if you have disabled the warning, then you have established your own conditions for ignorance, and ignorance of the law is not considered a defence for breaking it as a rule), were to repair his car for him, that would, in fact, qualify you as an accessory.

A capsuleer whose ship is badly damaged is in no way in danger of his life; indeed, a capsuleer is incapable of being in genuine danger of his life. The situations are not at all analogous.

bIowen
Posted - 2010.08.06 10:07:00 - [14]
 

Try setting your shield repper drones on a npc rat sometime, see what happens.

Chopper Rollins
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.08.06 10:31:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Xereyn
Originally by: Gilgamesh1980
well yes and know (sorry am bored atm)

if a criminal in RL was injured badly and you administered first aid, you would not be assisting a criminal....


discuss


However, if a criminal's getaway car was broken down and you, knowing, or with good reason to know, that he was a criminal (given that actions which will incur a sec hit generally have a warning flash up before you do them; if you have disabled the warning, then you have established your own conditions for ignorance, and ignorance of the law is not considered a defence for breaking it as a rule), were to repair his car for him, that would, in fact, qualify you as an accessory.

A capsuleer whose ship is badly damaged is in no way in danger of his life; indeed, a capsuleer is incapable of being in genuine danger of his life. The situations are not at all analogous.


Heretofor and directly forthwith all pseudo-legal and quasi-ontological considerations re: EVE Online will cease.

Cheese n RICE.


Xereyn
Posted - 2010.08.06 13:35:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Chopper Rollins
Originally by: Xereyn
Originally by: Gilgamesh1980
well yes and know (sorry am bored atm)

if a criminal in RL was injured badly and you administered first aid, you would not be assisting a criminal....


discuss


However, if a criminal's getaway car was broken down and you, knowing, or with good reason to know, that he was a criminal (given that actions which will incur a sec hit generally have a warning flash up before you do them; if you have disabled the warning, then you have established your own conditions for ignorance, and ignorance of the law is not considered a defence for breaking it as a rule), were to repair his car for him, that would, in fact, qualify you as an accessory.

A capsuleer whose ship is badly damaged is in no way in danger of his life; indeed, a capsuleer is incapable of being in genuine danger of his life. The situations are not at all analogous.


Heretofor and directly forthwith all pseudo-legal and quasi-ontological considerations re: EVE Online will cease.

Cheese n RICE.




I do hope so.

If not: I have semicolons and I'm not afraid to use them.

Tadeu718
EXTERMINATUS.
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2010.08.06 14:50:00 - [17]
 

So if both are criminals and they are repping each other GCC makes sense? Neutral Reppers in high sec should get concorded then.

Sorry for the worthless post felt like trolling alil


Laxyr
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2010.08.08 11:31:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Ja'Dur Deathwalker
Edited by: Ja''Dur Deathwalker on 05/08/2010 12:42:37
Ok, If you are in a pirate corp (Arrrrr!!!!)
You have no GCC, your corp mate has no GCC

You rep him,
He is -10 sec status, you get GCC

WTF Shocked

I could understand it if he had a GCC and you repped him,
This is forcing people to go further towards -10 for doing nice things to a former pirate who has not done anythng naughty for a while,

CCP come on and remmove the GCC for repping a crim when not aggressed....


Did it ever occur to you that there might be a downside of being a criminal? Restraining you from getting to highsec is hardly a downside when you're able to train a hauler alt in less than 3 days.

BTW, since when have RL comparisons become a legitimate argument in these forums?

Ressiv
Massive PVPness
Posted - 2010.08.08 11:42:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Gilgamesh1980
well yes and know (sorry am bored atm)

if a criminal in RL was injured badly and you administered first aid, you would not be assisting a criminal....


discuss


Dumb comparisson. First of all, if you KNOW it is a criminal, you are supposed to call the police. Providing first aid does not prohibit that.

If you provided first aid, knowing it is a criminal, and didnt call the police, you'd have an issue with the law if they find out.


 

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