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Barakkus
Posted - 2010.08.06 22:38:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Sonkut
BBC Iplayer
Search "mongrels"
Enjoy, oh, adults only.
Best puppet show evar


Lol, found some **** on youtube since I can't view it from the BBC, that ****'s funny as hell

Cat o'Ninetails
Caldari
Rancer Defence League
Posted - 2010.08.06 23:28:00 - [32]
 

I never knew anything about Mongrels, but the name caught my eye in this thread. I thought it was a kids show or something, so never clicked onto it on Iplayer.

Thanks lol Very Happy

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annoing
Amarr
Dirt Nap Squad
Dirt Nap Squad.
Posted - 2010.08.07 10:02:00 - [33]
 

Edited by: annoing on 07/08/2010 10:07:47

Originally by: Gerrards

Seeing as its compulsary by law for all TV owners to pay a subscription to the BBC and not to SKY its hardly fair competition.



Well at its very heart your statement is wrong. Just owning a TV doesnt mean you have to pay the License Fee. You only have to pay the Fee if you use the TV to watch 'live' broadcasts (even on iPlayer) If you use it to watch recorded programmes or use iPlayer to 'catch-up' on programmes no License is required.
The License Fee you pay does not go to the BBC and what money out of the tax is paid to the BBC (called the BBC Fund) has to pay for various things by law. Example: THE License Fee (note I say just 'license fee' and not the 'bbc license fee' which doesnt and has never existed) pays for S4C in its entirity. The License Fee also pays for C4s' and ITVs' digital changeover, its technologies, all of C4's 'outside' broadcasts (or at least, used to) and C4 News programmes. The License Fee also pays for all none advertising maintained local radio, all regional news channels, for ITVs regional news channels and for ITVs' National News programmes. Anything above the agreed budget given from the Fee has to be payed for by C4 or ITV.
The License Fee also pays for a multitude of radio stations that while they have the name BBC in front of them, are run independently (ie: BBC Asian Radio) to a budget.
The BBC World Service is funded wholley by the Foreign Office.
Any monies made by the BBCs commercial arm (BBC Worldwide) go straight to the Treasury and not the BBC, to be 'potentially' added to License Fund from which the BBC pays for itself. Remebering that any profit made by the BBC in selling its programmes abroad goes straight to the Treasury because, after all, the BBC is a 'non profit' making 'public service media providor'.
I would like to point out that the BBC is not alone in the world in recieving a Fund from a License Fee tax. Spain and France are moving in that direction now and many Asian and African countries already follow the blueprint of the License Fee scheme.
If Sky, Virgin et al provided 'local' news programmes they too would be funded by the License Fee.

So my sentiment remains, I would rather pay the License Fee and get the BBC TV, Radio and local stuff than watch commercial TV or listen to commercial radio.

PS: Mongrals - Vince's territory is so tough even the rapists carry **** alarms Shocked


Cat o'Ninetails
Caldari
Rancer Defence League
Posted - 2010.08.07 21:25:00 - [34]
 

I own a TV, use it for TV out exclusively. I've never been able to get a good signal in this flat since I moved in, I even once accidentally let a TV licence man in without thinking about it. I explained what I used the TV for, and that I couldn't get signal if I tried. I was taken off the TV licence "guilty until proven innocent" list for a year.

Now I just throught anything addressed to "The occupier" with a return address of the TV licence people straight in the bin, I don't even bother these days. I've tried many times in the past to convince them I don't need a licence, but I'm certain their records only last a year. Then they bother you again. I don't want someone coming in my house on a yearly basis just to make sure I'm not watching frickin television lol.

x

annoing
Amarr
Dirt Nap Squad
Dirt Nap Squad.
Posted - 2010.08.07 22:47:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails
I've tried many times in the past to convince them I don't need a licence, but I'm certain their records only last a year. Then they bother you again.


I understand your frustration, however, the License Feee Agency have to check on a yearly basis because circumstances can change (as in, you might actually pay for an roof ariel one day and start recieveing TV Wink). Be careful of one thing though, they now have the right and the technology to check if you use a TV card on your comp to view 'live' tv. If they do find that you do, they'll hand you a nice hefty fine, back date the license fee to whenever they think you might have started watching TV on your comp and add that to the bill.
All that said and done, it isnt the BBC that collect the Fee, it isnt the BBC that check that you are actually paying the Fee etc. Successive governments (regardless of their political colour) have deemed it appropriate to use the agency to find those that wont pay. Theres always someone who wants something for nothing.
Before we get someone else in here stating thats its an unfair tax etc please refer to my last post about what the Fee pays for: It isnt just Come Dancing Shocked





Sonkut
Minmatar
The Motley Few
Posted - 2010.08.08 00:21:00 - [36]
 

nice to see i still have the power of corruption

Legs Mackenzie
Posted - 2010.08.08 01:16:00 - [37]
 

What the hell is a TV card and why would anyone want it?


Ryhss
Caldari
The Excecutorans
Posted - 2010.08.08 05:26:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Menkaure
Edited by: Menkaure on 05/08/2010 03:25:42


God bless the BBC and things like Top Gear running for an actual hour!

Originally by: Ryhss
Don't get me wrong, I love the show, ep 6 of series 15 just ended, any clues when series 16 starts?


It'll be early/mid November as an educated guess.
WHEEEEEE!

Toshiro GreyHawk
Posted - 2010.08.08 06:48:00 - [39]
 

Well this has been interesting.

Most of the BBC stuff I see here in the states is on PBS.

I'm afraid my experience with British Television shows is entirely mixed.

Some have been excellent. Up Stairs Down Stairs, I Claudius, Piece of Cake and BBC International come to mind.

Then ... there's all the filler shows about frumpy old ladies and their somnolent husbands. I suppose this could be a matter of taste ...


As to quality vs quantity ... well ... US Television has much, much more money to spend because of it's commercial nature - so - there is a slicker quality to the shows than there is to even the well done BBC shows. Regardless of the quality of the script - the US Shows seem to be much more polished and professionally done.

The bigger US budgets allow for more spectacular stuff - so - it depends on what you care about.

If you want to pay for it here - you can have hundreds of channels on cable. I don't so I have merely dozens. But I've got the History Channel, the ScyFy Channel, Turner Classic Movies, American Movie Classics, FX, Disney, CNN, HLN, MSNBC, Fox News, The Discovery Channel and a whole bunch more.

Of course here the quality is mixed. Some of the stuff on the History and SciFi Channels is excellent and some of it is crap.

*shrug*

Now ... as to the commercials ... I've been watching commercials for over half a century ... and I frakking hate watching commercials. Though some of them are funny. Mostly - I channel surf - or mute the sound. If you turn the sound off - you can look else where, think about something else and ignore the commercial.

The other thing about commercials ... is that it gives you a chance to get up and go get a snack and/or drink or answer natures call. Thus - having to deal with commercials isn't as bad as some might think. TCM shows uncut movies and has no commercials ... which means ... that if you don't want to miss anything - you're stuck there until the movie is over ... unless you've got a TIVO or whatever. So getting a chance to take a quick break during a program has it's advantages.

I think that it's mostly what we're used to. If you're used to someone coming into your home to see if you're watching TV once a year ... that seems normal to you. If you're used to getting up during commercials and going to the bath room - then that seems normal to.

*shrug*

As to HBO and Show Time or whatever ... I'm to cheap to pay for them. Mostly ... during times when I did have HBO ... I didn't watch it that much because it didn't have that many movies I wanted to see. I was actually getting it for free for a while (their fault - not mine) and eventually called them up and told them to turn it off. If I really wanted to watch a relatively new movie - I'd just go rent it or buy it then watch the DVD ... and I've got a fairly large DVD/VHS collection.

As to something like Band of Brothers - I thought about getting a subscription when that came out - but decided to just wait and buy the DVD's.



While it doesn't have the built in mass market of US programming, I'd think that British programming would have some advantage over say German programming - in that - there are probably a lot more people world wide who speak English than German. Hell ... I'd bet most of the Germans speak some English (though I could well be wrong about that). I guess it's still going to be a while before we have a single language everyone can understand well enough that a nations broadcasting industry could make products in that language as opposed to their countries native language. I'm sure there are people who would scream bloody murder over their TV industry doing that.

My guess is that one of the reasons US Programming is so prevalent world wide is that - because it is commercial in the first place - the people marketing it are already attuned to milking every dime out of it they can.

That and there's just so much of it ...

*shrug*



Jago Kain
Amarr
Ramm's RDI
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2010.08.08 20:54:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails
I own a TV, use it for TV out exclusively. I've never been able to get a good signal in this flat since I moved in, I even once accidentally let a TV licence man in without thinking about it. I explained what I used the TV for, and that I couldn't get signal if I tried. I was taken off the TV licence "guilty until proven innocent" list for a year.

Now I just throught anything addressed to "The occupier" with a return address of the TV licence people straight in the bin, I don't even bother these days. I've tried many times in the past to convince them I don't need a licence, but I'm certain their records only last a year. Then they bother you again. I don't want someone coming in my house on a yearly basis just to make sure I'm not watching frickin television lol.

x


Just continue to throw anything from them in the bin.

You are not obliged to give these parasites any information whatsoever, they also have no right of entry to your property, including pathways, driveways, gardens etc.. They threaten all sorts of dire action, but at the end of the day they are completely toothless unless you are daft enought to give them enough information to prosecute you with.

A lot of *******s is also talked about "detector vans" and the fabled hand held device that supposedly replaced them. Opinion is divided as to wether these actually exist or not, and how often they are used, but even if they do exist and work as they would like us to believe, there has never been a single prosecution for non-payment of TV license that has used evidence from these devices. Not one. Ever. They have no admissibility in a court of law.

Most successful prosecutions are of unwitting folk who make a statement admitting to watching TV, not realising that they can simply tell these folk to feck off with no comeback at all.

If they do knock on your door, tell them you are "withdrawing their implied right on entry" and they then have to, by law, get off your property and back onto the street. It is then a simple matter of standing at your front door smiling sweetly at them until they get bored and go and harass someone else.

Never ever talk to them, sign anything or let them into your property and there will be bugger all they can do to you.

Phillis Stein
Caldari
Serenity Prime
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2010.08.09 10:12:00 - [41]
 

Best Top gear show has to be the one where they buy 3 wrecks in the USA, drive them down south, doing various tasks on the way. One which involved painting sloagns on each others cars that would make the locals lynch them. And finally seeing what happens when an ungrateful family is given a car for free.

Sonkut
Minmatar
The Motley Few
Posted - 2010.08.09 10:43:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Phillis Stein
Best Top gear show has to be the one where they buy 3 wrecks in the USA, drive them down south, doing various tasks on the way. One which involved painting sloagns on each others cars that would make the locals lynch them. And finally seeing what happens when an ungrateful family is given a car for free.


I agree that episode was great, especially the "i'm go'n ta get tha boy's" bit, and the end with the ungrateful family show just how much some people need to learn to not look the gift horse in the mouth.

On the quality related stuff from the BBC, ya they are never going to have as big a budget as American shows as we simply are not as huge as America in terms of country size, but we have been hitting well above our weight band for hundreds of years in terms of economy.

What you do find though is the things that donít need a big budget shine through and tend to sprout their own American versions like scrap heap challenge, simply because we seem to do many things first or have a very high percentage of good writers and comedians which shows in Mongrels.

A very good example of not quite so polished as American stuff is Dr who, which has always been slightly tacky even in the original series. I remember in the original series there was a monster on 1 episode which was just a man wrapped in bubble wrap and spray painted green slugging along the floor. They are much better these days but still a little rough around the edges.

Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari
Emminent Terraforming
O.G.-Alliance
Posted - 2010.08.09 15:10:00 - [43]
 

Edited by: Viktor Fyretracker on 09/08/2010 15:18:16
Edited by: Viktor Fyretracker on 09/08/2010 15:17:33
Originally by: Sonkut
Originally by: Phillis Stein
Best Top gear show has to be the one where they buy 3 wrecks in the USA, drive them down south, doing various tasks on the way. One which involved painting sloagns on each others cars that would make the locals lynch them. And finally seeing what happens when an ungrateful family is given a car for free.


I agree that episode was great, especially the "i'm go'n ta get tha boy's" bit, and the end with the ungrateful family show just how much some people need to learn to not look the gift horse in the mouth.

On the quality related stuff from the BBC, ya they are never going to have as big a budget as American shows as we simply are not as huge as America in terms of country size, but we have been hitting well above our weight band for hundreds of years in terms of economy.

What you do find though is the things that donít need a big budget shine through and tend to sprout their own American versions like scrap heap challenge, simply because we seem to do many things first or have a very high percentage of good writers and comedians which shows in Mongrels.

A very good example of not quite so polished as American stuff is Dr who, which has always been slightly tacky even in the original series. I remember in the original series there was a monster on 1 episode which was just a man wrapped in bubble wrap and spray painted green slugging along the floor. They are much better these days but still a little rough around the edges.



well heck look how bad Star Trek: TOS looks, i am sure it looked kind of cheesy even in the 1960s when it was made. but it still booted up the most profitable scifi franchise in history. Even with their US budgets, the Trek shows still have lots of cheese at times(i of course enjoy them). the Warp Core on TNG was pretty clearly sequenced Neon lamps in a big plastic tube.


Something tells me that if Dr. Who where to ever be made at the level of final production as say Avatar, it would loose fans though. i think the bad effects and plywood props are now considered part of the character of the show itself. Like classic scifi films, they look terrible but we still enjoy them(think of how much the big budget Godzilla sucked and how loved the "man in a rubber suit" versions are loved).

Vogue
Short Bus Pole Dancers
Posted - 2010.08.09 16:12:00 - [44]
 

Edited by: Vogue on 09/08/2010 16:12:25
The recent Doctor Who's are more family friendly and as a result have lost a dark edge that the older ones had. Doctor Who Genesis Of The Darleks with Tom Baker as Doctor Who was one of the best. Yes it had 70's cheap BBC sets but the dark plot was awesome.

Something Random
Gallente
The Barrow Boys
Posted - 2010.08.09 16:30:00 - [45]
 

Quickly addressing the above poster. I think the more 'mad and crazy' doctor is deliberate, as he changes so does his persona - every actor that takes the Doctor title is expected to bring a little something to add with him. What you see is what Matt has brought and i quite like it - i have to admit i had him down as the Sylvester McCoy of the Modern generation before i saw what he really brought to the show.

To the thread... BBC shows are great and im not sure if Americans can get a channel called 'Dave' but this has to be the ultimate channel for BBC enjoyers and anyone that enjoys 'witty banter' in general. Im a fan of QI - one or two episodes of that show completely crumble your primary/kindergarten teachings to a mound of absolute crap - seriously you learn that everything you learned was WRONG!!!!!!!.

To the guy saying Top Gear doesnt have long - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! you SERIOUSLY think they're gonna let it go ? They tried once - channel 5 immediately made 5th Gear. Id expect Dave to have a go should it disappear this time - then id expect it back within the year.

American shows are great too, ive avidly watched things like 3rd Rock, Malcolm, MArried with Kids etc etc etc - Seinfeld sorta wasnt interesting enough but would bring the odd chuckle if i ever found myself watching, but to me when those Ellen, Seinfeld, even Friends shows came out it was a change in style of comedy i didnt really like - but could occasionally chuckle to. Nowadays the majority of american peak time beiwing comedy is just an endless barrage of jibes at the expense of some obscure only American known person and frankly goes over the rest of the worlds heads. If the simpsons dare go for that they at least fill in the picture of why its funny, funnily too.

In short - get Dave if you like British BBC TV thats witty.


Hugh Munguss
Posted - 2010.08.10 06:29:00 - [46]
 

Yeah...gotta love the BBC! Now if they can figure out how to charge deaf people for watching concerts????

Linkage


Kiritsubo
Ritual Suicide
Posted - 2010.08.10 17:43:00 - [47]
 

Top Gear is probably the best show on TV in any country. I haven't stayed up with the last few seasons so hearing about the budget cuts is disappointing.

Another great BBC show is Spooks. Unlike American shows where you know the protaganist will never die anyone can and is killed at any time.

Reiisha
Veto Corp
Posted - 2010.08.11 16:53:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: QwaarJet
The Top Gear budget for the series just gone was clearly much smaller than before. Top Gear has sunk in quality in the last couple of years. I don't imagine it has long left.


Hehe.

Dream on ^^

baltec1
Posted - 2010.08.11 17:01:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Kiritsubo
Top Gear is probably the best show on TV in any country. I haven't stayed up with the last few seasons so hearing about the budget cuts is disappointing.

Another great BBC show is Spooks. Unlike American shows where you know the protaganist will never die anyone can and is killed at any time.


The budget is not the issue, its the production time and the number of cars comming out.

DaggerXE
Posted - 2010.08.11 17:16:00 - [50]
 

My favorite current TV offering from the BBC is Sherlock. Masterfull writing and production. Too bad the preducer has other comitment for the next 3 Part series.

Mangala Solaris
Caldari
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
Posted - 2010.08.11 18:34:00 - [51]
 

However the TV licence fee works, Im happy to pay it.

I get David Attenborough and the BBC Proms in return.

Sma da'Marenhide
Posted - 2010.08.12 07:17:00 - [52]
 

God i miss the BBCSad

Aussie tv is bloody awful!
The only thing me or my friends watch are Brit imports(and the odd US show)
And the bloody advertising really sh**s me!

I timed an add break every SEVEN minutes during the last film i watched(yes i was bored, they were allways cutting to adds!)

Something Random
Gallente
The Barrow Boys
Posted - 2010.08.12 18:56:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: Hugh Munguss
Yeah...gotta love the BBC! Now if they can figure out how to charge deaf people for watching concerts????

Linkage




Not as ironic as you think mayteeeeeeeeee.

They state that should the blind use an audio only set top box they need pay nothing.

The deaf however have a full segment of time handed over to them where the most popular shows of the day are shown with signing and the very early news is also signed for about an hour. There is also 888 subtitles available for almost every single show on all the BBC channels.

Really they are not bad.

Just wish EVERY TV show production company would drop the frickin 'reality'.


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