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CCP Hammer

Posted - 2004.12.21 15:43:00 - [1]
 

Ooh, yeah! All right!
We're jammin':
I wanna jam it wid you.
We're jammin', jammin',
And I hope you like jammin', too

By the way, I just gave autocannons 20% better tracking, artilleries 15% more damage and optimal range and howitzers 15% more damage on the test server. Ya mon, let's see if this fixes projectiles.

We're jammin', jammin', we're jammin', jammin'....

Hast
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2004.12.21 15:46:00 - [2]
 

\o/

cant say more than Awesome

this brings a tear to my minnie wannabe eye

TIO 101
Posted - 2004.12.21 15:46:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: TIO 101 on 21/12/2004 15:46:23
:o

Jack Ryan
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2004.12.21 15:47:00 - [4]
 

It's Hammer time!

TekRa
Minmatar
Posted - 2004.12.21 15:47:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: TekRa on 21/12/2004 15:50:07
w00t!

it's like xmas has come early. just. Laughing

Vader Crane
Minmatar
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2004.12.21 15:48:00 - [6]
 

hnmmmm

RollinDutchMasters
Gallente
Ordnance Delivery Services Inc.
Posted - 2004.12.21 15:49:00 - [7]
 

Damn. Does this mean that I cant look at tempests as loot cans trying to get out anymore?

LoxyRider
Posted - 2004.12.21 15:50:00 - [8]
 

Cant touch this?

Discorporation
Amarr
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2004.12.21 15:51:00 - [9]
 

Mon, why you be messin' wit da gonz? Dem minnie bways no fight dere mastars in da Empire, not good, right?

Khaldorn Murino
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2004.12.21 15:54:00 - [10]
 

Nice one Hammer.

Quick question, did you increase tracking on just autocannons or artilery and howitzers as well? Cos I could be wrong but i seem to remember artillery not being able to hit below optimal at all? so wouldnt it be better to increase falloff?

If im talking gayness here, please ignore me. And i would love to go test my jaguar out on this, but christmas festivities are keeping me away for a couple of days :)

GFLTorque
Minmatar
Lethal Corp
Red Alliance
Posted - 2004.12.21 15:57:00 - [11]
 

Hammer 4 the win!

/emote pinches himself to make sure its not just a dream...




Originally by: CCP Hammer
Ooh, yeah! All right!
We're jammin':
I wanna jam it wid you.
We're jammin', jammin',
And I hope you like jammin', too

By the way, I just gave autocannons 20% better tracking, artilleries 15% more damage and optimal range and howitzers 15% more damage on the test server. Ya mon, let's see if this fixes projectiles.

We're jammin', jammin', we're jammin', jammin'....

Lameth
Amarr
TOHA Heavy Industries
Posted - 2004.12.21 16:01:00 - [12]
 

One step closer to that elusive thing called balance.
After the Missile changes "less damage on small stuff", who believe we will all be satisfied?

Gotta be a pain in te ass to be a dev, but the reward makes up for it I suppose.
Getting payed to build the garden if eden for thousands of enthousiasts (nerds)

Siddy
Minmatar
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2004.12.21 16:05:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: CCP Hammer
Ooh, yeah! All right!
We're jammin':
I wanna jam it wid you.
We're jammin', jammin',
And I hope you like jammin', too





its odd how minmatars look like dirty jamaikans

i was lisening that song so way before you came up with it - i rock

and you rock Laughing

jukriamrr
Posted - 2004.12.21 16:06:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: CCP Hammer
Ooh, yeah! All right!
We're jammin':
I wanna jam it wid you.
We're jammin', jammin',
And I hope you like jammin', too

By the way, I just gave autocannons 20% better tracking, artilleries 15% more damage and optimal range and howitzers 15% more damage on the test server. Ya mon, let's see if this fixes projectiles.

We're jammin', jammin', we're jammin', jammin'....


Shocked

/me sends the whole Bob Marley CD collection to CCP's offices... Laughing

Sun Ra
Euphoria Released
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2004.12.21 16:08:00 - [15]
 

LOL

Siddy
Minmatar
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2004.12.21 16:12:00 - [16]
 

now im going to ask - HOW hard was it to introduce thees changes... err 3 MONTHs earlier?

Khaldorn Murino
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2004.12.21 16:12:00 - [17]
 

How about, testing these stats. Then switching it and giving autocannons the damage increase and the big guns the tracking increase. Because, and it may be only me here, i think that would be more beneficial.

As the issue with the projectiles was that they cant hit a barn door. But any positive nerf is something eh? Just a suggestion.

JoKane
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2004.12.21 16:16:00 - [18]
 

I want what hes smoking.

Finix Jaeger
Minmatar
Doomheim
Posted - 2004.12.21 16:21:00 - [19]
 

It's good to have a Minmatar Dev playing with Minmatar gunsVery Happy

If this happens I might leave the Ammatar way of life and go back to the Matari one.

KompleX
Gallente
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
Posted - 2004.12.21 16:26:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Khaldorn Murino
How about, testing these stats. Then switching it and giving autocannons the damage increase and the big guns the tracking increase. Because, and it may be only me here, i think that would be more beneficial.

As the issue with the projectiles was that they cant hit a barn door. But any positive nerf is something eh? Just a suggestion.


Slow down there! I say tracking to both parts. I can hit frigates with 220MM now, and I like it.

Ultrabug
Morne Attitude
Posted - 2004.12.21 16:31:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: Ultrabug on 21/12/2004 16:33:36
Edited by: Ultrabug on 21/12/2004 16:32:18
Originally by: Khaldorn Murino
How about, testing these stats. Then switching it and giving autocannons the damage increase and the big guns the tracking increase. Because, and it may be only me here, i think that would be more beneficial.

As the issue with the projectiles was that they cant hit a barn door. But any positive nerf is something eh? Just a suggestion.


I agree, 1400 suffer more of the tracking and RoF than damage imo ! Inverted stats would make more sense to me but wouldn't be enough.

Lasers get all the benefits : tracking + RoF + NO AMMO CHANGING TIME. How can you imagine such little changes will balance that ? Why doing more damage if you can't get a hit ??? Rolling Eyes

EDIT : added ammo changing time ! Lasers should have less RoF to balance the reloading time of other turrets.......

CCP Eris Discordia

Posted - 2004.12.21 16:33:00 - [22]
 

Can we fix the blinking lights too? They can get way too hypnotic when your enjoying the good grass Wink

Turn your lights down low, and close the window curtain

Yeah man

pardux
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2004.12.21 16:34:00 - [23]
 

\o/Very HappyVery HappyVery HappyVery Happy

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2004.12.21 16:39:00 - [24]
 

o yeah jammin! Wub the changesVery Happy

CCP Eris Discordia

Posted - 2004.12.21 16:43:00 - [25]
 

Please reply constructively

Dred 'Morte
New European Regiment
Blade.
Posted - 2004.12.21 16:44:00 - [26]
 

it would have been better if you had given 15% more dmg to autocannons and 20% more tracking to artillerys... now 4x 280mm techII on a wolf with maximized skills = 1 frig boom in one volley

Nafri
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2004.12.21 16:44:00 - [27]
 

were getting on a good way Smile

now nerf geddons damage and we can talk about balanced ships

jukriamrr
Posted - 2004.12.21 16:47:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Dred 'Morte
it would have been better if you had given 15% more dmg to autocannons and 20% more tracking to artillerys


yes, maybe that would be a VERY nice solution. Smile

Hakera
Freelance Unincorporated
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2004.12.21 16:49:00 - [29]
 

nah the original change is good, autocannons miss a hell of a lot.


DarkMatters
The Ankou
Initiative Mercenaries
Posted - 2004.12.21 16:49:00 - [30]
 

Edited by: DarkMatters on 21/12/2004 16:50:50
Edited by: DarkMatters on 21/12/2004 16:50:09
Edited by: DarkMatters on 21/12/2004 16:49:26
Originally by: Ultrabug
Edited by: Ultrabug on 21/12/2004 16:33:36
Edited by: Ultrabug on 21/12/2004 16:32:18
Originally by: Khaldorn Murino
How about, testing these stats. Then switching it and giving autocannons the damage increase and the big guns the tracking increase. Because, and it may be only me here, i think that would be more beneficial.

As the issue with the projectiles was that they cant hit a barn door. But any positive nerf is something eh? Just a suggestion.

I agree, 1400 suffer more of the tracking and RoF than damage imo ! Inverted stats would make more sense to me but wouldn't be enough.

Lasers get all the benefits : tracking + RoF + NO AMMO CHANGING TIME. How can you imagine such little changes will balance that ? Why doing more damage if you can't get a hit ??? Rolling Eyes




lasers went from rubbish ( all amarr ships fitting hybrids) to good with a single 5% per ship lvl decrease in cap use. this was because other turrets types simply out damaged lasers for the use of less cap leaving no point in fitting them.

the changes suggested are between 15%-20% of diffrent attributes, would it not be better to fully test these increase before nerfing lasers?



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