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Ehnea Mehk
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2010.08.03 09:34:00 - [31]
 

Edited by: Ehnea Mehk on 03/08/2010 09:55:09
Edited by: Ehnea Mehk on 03/08/2010 09:36:37 to correct spelling and bold a few things
(please forgive the long post, but it is necessary to set the facts straight once and for all. Feel free to skip this message if you hate long posts).

Ansgar, I'm sorry but that is not how things happened. You left out some stuff. Here is what happened for the record:

I locked Astra's ship by mistake when I tried to look at it close up. When I realized I locked the ship, I unlocked it and posted this in local (this comes from my chat logs):

[ 2010.07.31 22:53:22 ] Ehnea Mehk > sorry, wrong target

Immediately after my lock, Astra locked on Pehk and I (after sitting there in the belt mining for the last half hour) and began to move toward my Probe. Astra, not you, made the first aggressive motion. I began to circle Pehk's Mammoth. I saw you arrive shortly after, and you and Astra started chasing us for about maybe 10 to 15 seconds. We went into the asteroid belt to see if we could mess up your chasing. Then I heard the big bang and got the following in my combat log:

2010.07.31 22:57:00

Victim: Ehnea Mehk
Corp: ODATRIK MINING CORPORATION
Alliance: Unknown
Faction: Unknown
Destroyed: Probe
System: Odatrik
Security: 0.8
Damage Taken: 156

Involved parties:

Name: Ansgar Thorulf (laid the final blow)
Security: 4.0
Corp: ORDO INVICTUS
Alliance: NONE
Faction: NONE
Ship: Typhoon
Weapon: Large Rudimentary Concussion Bomb I
Damage Done: 156


We were good sports about it. We posted the following:

[ 2010.07.31 22:57:27 ] Ehnea Mehk > good shot
[ 2010.07.31 22:57:39 ] Pehk Mak'mel'ahma > very good shot
[ 2010.07.31 22:57:45 ] Pehk Mak'mel'ahma > sorry about your vessels
[ 2010.07.31 22:57:53 ] Pehk Mak'mel'ahma > we will come back for the salvage later


I wanted to go back and get what was left behind, but Pehk told me to go in my pod, just to see if you guys were in fact mad at me for the lock. Sure enough, you reacted as expected and blew my pod to pieces. I AM glad Pehk gave me clone money or I would have sued his Traders butt for dangerous workplace environment:

2010.07.31 23:05:00

Victim: Ehnea Mehk
Corp: ODATRIK MINING CORPORATION
Alliance: Unknown
Faction: Unknown
Destroyed: Capsule
System: Odatrik
Security: 0.8
Damage Taken: 480

Involved parties:

Name: Astra Vidya (laid the final blow)
Security: -2.4
Corp: ORDO INVICTUS
Alliance: NONE
Faction: NONE
Ship: Brutix
Weapon: Limited Neutron Blaster I
Damage Done: 322

Name: Ansgar Thorulf
Security: -0.1
Corp: ORDO INVICTUS
Alliance: NONE
Faction: NONE
Ship: Unknown
Weapon: Typhoon
Damage Done: 158


Pehk went out to get the stuff and came back. Funny how he came back unscathed.

You know, Ansgar, sometimes you can say things to yourself enough times and make yourself believe it. I've tried that myself once like saving over and over "the dentist will not hurt me when she takes out my back teeth" so I believe it enough so I can get my back teeth taken out.

But there are some things you can say over and over and you still will not believe it because it flies in the face of facts:

- The sky is not blue, it is really pink.
- I won the lottery today, I do not have to go to work any more

Then there is your statement that it had nothing to do with my lock. You can say it over and over as much as you like, in the hope people will start to believe it. But you are leaving out one teeny tiny little detail. I was there. I knew the sequence of events because I was the one that locked Astra's ship and I have the chat logs and combat log to show otherwise.

I do agree with one thing you said. You will see us again in the Odatrik system because that's where we do most of our stuff. What happened is not going to put us off that practice. Feel free to come over sand say "Hi". We might even give you a probe to blow up Very Happy

Phantoms wife
Posted - 2010.08.05 11:21:00 - [32]
 

War has been declared on ODATRIK Mining Corporation!
No Way Out Or In Declares War Against ODATRIK MINING CORPORATION
From: CONCORD
Sent: 2010.08.04 15:40

No Way Out Or In has declared war on ODATRIK MINING CORPORATION.
Within 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.

As CEO of ODATRIK Mining Corporation, I accept this challenge. This is our greatest test since Hulkaggedon. If the corporation survives and we weather the storm, it will show that this corporation is unbreakable and invincible. As I know it is.

I repeat my previous vow that this great corporation will not be intimidated.

We will NOT be run out of the ODATRIK system. This is our home.
We will NOT close the office. We have rights to be here.
We will NOT recant our previous comments about ORDO INVICTUS. They overreacted...badly...to a misunderstanding and they must bear the shame for that overreaction.
We will NOT halt our regular mining, ratting and salvage operations. We are Minmatar. We are strong. We are eternal.

We WILL prevail!

Pehk



that is what i took from his own Corp site.
what i have to say on this:

We will NOT be run out of the ODATRIK system. This is our home.
*even before the war started, you where running from 2 of my members

We will NOT close the office. We have rights to be here.
*dont need to close it, you can sit in there as long as you like!

We will NOT recant our previous comments about ORDO INVICTUS. They overreacted...badly...to a misunderstanding and they must bear the shame for that overreaction.
*i want to add something to you, you are looking like a small child who`s sister pinched him, and starting to cry to mammie.
trying to play with the grown ups, but as you know, how you react on the forums is not how the grown ups play!.

We will NOT halt our regular mining, ratting and salvage operations. We are Minmatar. We are strong. We are eternal.
*1. you already hiding, so you stopped it already
*2. Duc-taped ships, when you fly harder then 10 m/s you the duc-tape will fall off!
*3. if your so strong, why hiding?

We WILL prevail!
lol, Veni, vidi, vici
*for those with lesser aducation, or never heard from Ceasar it means:
I came, I saw, I conquered*


i give you a offer,
you are saying that you can make great ammounts of isk,
so i will ask you for 100 million and we will retract the war dec,
next to it, you need to stop posting small childish things on the forums.

or,
you disband your corp, fly far away from Odatrik
and start playing the game with Honour and grown up.
get playing for real, and not for 1 million profit for a full day of work!.
get your game up! or play Farmville or something like that!

friendly regards
Phantom.

Ps, you really need to start and study fittings.
know the fit for ganking, tanking and off course Suicide Ganking.
next to it, its for a SB (smartbomb) handy to be in range, so indeed they
needed to follow you!!

*the sky can be coulourd from organe to pink, with the right weather, and
the correct sun, and dont forget about the Nothren Lights, those are on the sky as well!!

*You can believe you won the lottry, and stop working, Soon enough they come to collect money you dont have!
But for a while you believed you won the lottery!

Riedle
Minmatar
Paradox Collective
Posted - 2010.08.05 11:46:00 - [33]
 

Edited by: Riedle on 05/08/2010 11:47:48
crap, now moving to Odatrik

Edit: ohh... It's only two systems from Uplinger..

All the emorage nerds live around Rens or what?

Whoop whoop!

Gladys Pank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
Posted - 2010.08.05 15:18:00 - [34]
 

This is pretty pathetic for both involved parties.

Beachura
Exiled.
The Kadeshi
Posted - 2010.08.05 16:25:00 - [35]
 

I like this story, suicide gankers failed (Y)

Pehk Mak'mel'ahma
ODATRIK Integrated Solutions
Posted - 2010.08.05 17:39:00 - [36]
 

Phantoms Wife.

There is no disgrace or dishonour from evading someone with the intention to destroy you. In fact, as quoted from "Surviving a War Declaration" written by Friedrick Psitalon:

"Sometimes running away is both the bravest and smartest choice you can make. There
are several choices available for you as well. They all focus on the same concept: A corporation that
is declaring war on you for fun and profit wants targets. If they don't have any, they'll get bored and
go away. Even if wardecs are a paltry sum, it's silly to pay them with no returns."

EVE Online is not about having the biggest ship or the most powerful weapon to beat your enemy. It's about surviving in New Eden by outwitting your opponent through strategy. If my corporation prospers while still evading hostiles, then we won the WARDEC without a shot being fired.

In addition to Ehnea's post above that sums up nicely what transpired, I've stated my position oft times in both the forums and on our website so I am not going to repeat them again. I stand by them.

Your attempt at extortion has been refused. We will not pay one ISK to you and (of course within the guidelines of the player agreement) we will continue to do things our way.

That's final.

Pehk.

Ansgar Thorulf
Posted - 2010.08.05 18:35:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Beachura
I like this story, suicide gankers failed (Y)


No sir we didnīt we suicided the ship we wanted to suicided and we suicided the pod we wanted to suicide!

Brother Right
You have a friend in Jita
Posted - 2010.08.05 18:57:00 - [38]
 

Edited by: Brother Right on 05/08/2010 19:01:07
Riveting tale!

Pehk Your corp has 10 rifters along with named t1 equiv. of top rated t2 solo pvp rifter fit for all 10. And ammo, all on the way.

The hell with running this is video game now go give them big PEHKER!!!!

And should you carebear miners actually show gumption and I see some killmails, no matter whose side as long as there's action,

I would strongly consider funding this.. well.. war-ish type drama to it's conclusion.

You, my friend, Have a friend in Jita.




Travelin Jack
Posted - 2010.08.06 00:27:00 - [39]
 

Love the story..love even more the drama behind it...love the most: Underneath it all (and completely ignored) are protests from Astra Vidya and Ansgar Thorulf that "We, uh, meant to do that."

Oh, and Phantoms wife...before you speak of anyone with a lesser *Education*...consult the spell checker. You lose a bit of credibility.

Originally by: Phantoms wife

*for those with lesser aducation, or never heard from...

Xereyn
Posted - 2010.08.06 04:58:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Ansgar Thorulf
Originally by: Beachura
I like this story, suicide gankers failed (Y)


No sir we didnīt we suicided the ship we wanted to suicided and we suicided the pod we wanted to suicide!


This is awesome.

The bit where you claim victory for suiciding a probe. And a pod. Do you also take pride in your awesome macho prowess when you take lunch money from six-year-olds?

Rock on, Odatrik Mining. Pay no attention to the epeen-wavers who deride you for the small scale of your operations - I'm getting the impression you're having more fun than they are, which means you are, in fact, winning at EVE.

Pehk Mak'mel'ahma
ODATRIK Integrated Solutions
Posted - 2010.08.06 06:22:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Xereyn
Originally by: Ansgar Thorulf
Originally by: Beachura
I like this story, suicide gankers failed (Y)


No sir we didnīt we suicided the ship we wanted to suicided and we suicided the pod we wanted to suicide!


This is awesome.

The bit where you claim victory for suiciding a probe. And a pod. Do you also take pride in your awesome macho prowess when you take lunch money from six-year-olds?

Rock on, Odatrik Mining. Pay no attention to the epeen-wavers who deride you for the small scale of your operations - I'm getting the impression you're having more fun than they are, which means you are, in fact, winning at EVE.


Xereyn, thank you for your support. We have received many comments like yours since the WARDEC began. It is gratefully acknowledged. Some players are even helping us out in things we used to do ourselves. Of course they get the better share of ISK but I am more than happy to give that share to them for stepping up to the plate and helping us. And we made a lot of good ISK today.

And yes, we are having fun about this, especially since all of this started off with an accidental target lock that could have been immediately resolved in private instead of a probe being blown up out of panic.

Pehk

Barakkus
Posted - 2010.08.06 13:07:00 - [42]
 

Shocked

Me thinks some people need to get out of the house more.

Pehk Mak'mel'ahma
ODATRIK Integrated Solutions
Posted - 2010.08.06 17:28:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Barakkus
Shocked

Me thinks some people need to get out of the house more.


Your wish is my command : I was at a Starbuck's when I received the call Smile

Pehk

Ran Khanon
Amarr
Swords Horses and Heavy Metal
Posted - 2010.08.06 18:27:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: Phantoms wife

Veni, vidi, vici
*for those with lesser aducation, or never heard from Ceasar it means:
I came, I saw, I conquered*


ugh

After Joe, here's you forcing me to be a spelling **** today ...

It isn't my custom at all but I can't help it when people fail at spelling words like "education" when trying to belittle others. (I won't blame you for spelling "Caesar" wrong though. That one is nasty.)

Also Caesar would have been really pimp if the order of words in his quote would have been "Vidi, vici, veni" (With your higher education you must be able to work that one out).

Probably in before lame Sun-Tzu's 'Art of War' quotes.

Riedle
Minmatar
Paradox Collective
Posted - 2010.08.10 12:23:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Ran Khanon
Originally by: Phantoms wife

Veni, vidi, vici
*for those with lesser aducation, or never heard from Ceasar it means:
I came, I saw, I conquered*


ugh

After Joe, here's you forcing me to be a spelling **** today ...

It isn't my custom at all but I can't help it when people fail at spelling words like "education" when trying to belittle others. (I won't blame you for spelling "Caesar" wrong though. That one is nasty.)

Also Caesar would have been really pimp if the order of words in his quote would have been "Vidi, vici, veni" (With your higher education you must be able to work that one out).

Probably in before lame Sun-Tzu's 'Art of War' quotes.



haha, caesar came in his pants.

Also, haha pwned

Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
Chubby Chuppers Chubba Chups
Posted - 2010.08.10 13:22:00 - [46]
 

this story was actualy vaguely entertaining

SKUNK

Lord Xantoh
Posted - 2010.08.10 16:49:00 - [47]
 

Edited by: Lord Xantoh on 10/08/2010 16:50:33
Originally by: Ansgar Thorulf
Indeed i waited for the probe and the mammoth to be in range for my smartbombs so noone lost temper in that incident.

We will see us soon . . . \O


Why would you go for a mammoth and a... probe?

Fascinating story and way to go to hide your lack of compentency in (attempted) ganking of worthless high-sec targets lol!
Laughing

Pehk Mak'mel'ahma
ODATRIK Integrated Solutions
Posted - 2010.08.10 17:27:00 - [48]
 

Edited by: Pehk Mak''mel''ahma on 10/08/2010 17:55:32

He went after us because my corpmate Ehnea accidentally target-locked on to Astra Vidya's Brutix when all Ehnea wanted to was to get a closer look at it, using the "Look At" feature. This has been our position from the very beginning, even throughout the WARDEC launched by Ansgar Thorulf's alliance "No Way Out Or In". Ehnea's own chat and kill log confirms this.

I wouldn't necessarily call it incompetence, but I would definately call it an overreaction, maybe even a temper fit. Further proof of that overreaction is shown when he hired an alliance made up of 95 players (including his own corporation) to wage a war against a 4 player mining corp with no PvP experience. This alliance gave us an ultimatum to pay 100 million ISK or disband my corp and leave Odatrik.

But we did better than they hoped. We are making good ISK right now, and working with other players throughout New Eden. This is a epic fail on No Way Out Or In's part on a PR and optics scale. When this WARDEC is over (and it will end...it is basically a tax on them right now), people are going to ask just how tough this alliance is if they cannot break a 4 player mining corp. Ansgar Thorulf and his new friends may find themselves on the receiving end of a WARDEC by those same people asking that question in the future..

All because of an accidental target lock that could have been easily explained away with an apology from our side...

Pehk

Odatrik Mining Corporation

Roosterton
Eternal Frontier
Posted - 2010.08.10 21:22:00 - [49]
 

Edited by: Roosterton on 10/08/2010 21:23:40
This thread delivers.

I'd dec Ordo Invictus, but I don't want to waste 50mil on their pathetic alliance.

Feel free to dec my corp though, I know you've already wasted 50mil deccing Odatrik Laughing

Faekurias
Muppet Ninja's
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
Posted - 2010.08.10 21:55:00 - [50]
 

Didn't read really, but did a 80man alliance wardec a 4 man corp or something?

For what purpose?

Too many walls of text, TL;DR pls.

Darunia Goron
Posted - 2010.08.10 22:21:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Faekurias
Didn't read really, but did a 80man alliance wardec a 4 man corp or something?

For what purpose?

Too many walls of text, TL;DR pls.



TL;DR:
Roaming BS and BC suicide gank a dangerous Probe and Mammoth. Their intention from the start was to throw away 60+ mil in ships and gear to take out a sub-100k Probe.
Then the gankers rightfully fear for their lives from this 4-man mining corp and get their 95-man alliance to war-dec them, with a fair request for 100mil in payment for their suffering.


I for one genuinely enjoyed this story. When I log on later I'll be renaming my own Probe Invictus' Bane in honor of these brave pod-pilots' sacrifice to rid EVE of dangerous Probes and make it a safer place for all!

kiki mo
Suddenly Ninjas
Posted - 2010.08.10 23:41:00 - [52]
 

[Tuesday Confession]

I like kinda like sorta liked this umm story at first, ya know?!...but then it like, ummm, got too long and stuff.

BTW, I agree, the Dorko Invictus dweebs protest too much. 'we meant to sacrifice our ships on a worthless probe/pod' bwaaahhhahahaha

BTW, I might just come down and check out the yellowboxing action. I want to see if I can get a killmail by simple target lock antics.

*furiously searching maps and calulating hop numbers to see if it's worth it

Ehnea Mehk
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2010.08.11 01:16:00 - [53]
 

Edited by: Ehnea Mehk on 11/08/2010 01:17:39
It does look like a bat to me with the right amount of imagination....

It looks like a bat to me!

Maybe that's why it makes certain people nervous...



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