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Thatkidnamedrocky
Gallente
Posted - 2010.07.31 08:42:00 - [1]
 

[Machariel, RattingGuristas]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II

Core X-Type 100MN Afterburner
Dread Guristas Ballistic Deflection Field
Invulnerability Field II
Dread Guristas X-Large Shield Booster
Ammatar Navy Heavy Capacitor Booster, Cap Booster 800

800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I, Phased Plasma L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I, Phased Plasma L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I, Phased Plasma L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I, Phased Plasma L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I, Phased Plasma L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I, Phased Plasma L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I, Phased Plasma L


Large Core Defence Capacitor safeguard I
Large Core Defence Capacitor safeguard I
Large Core Defence Capacitor safeguard I


Hammerhead II x5

would this be a good fit to do sanctums with would my speed help my tank any

suggestions

Dr Nefarius
Posted - 2010.07.31 14:22:00 - [2]
 

My tips:

1. Get a maelstrom or other BS that you have the skills to fly. Have a friend with you and you can do the sanctums together.

2. Train up t2 guns, and fitting skills so you don't have to use faction mods to t1 fit a faction ship. Mad

3. Get Machariel, fit it something like this(just some quick eft work):

[Machariel, RattingGuristas suggestion]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II

100MN Afterburner II
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier II

800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
[empty high slot]

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hammerhead II x5



Yes, less tank on it, but you are capstable at 47% so should be able to negate most of the damage with your speed. Also this setup is not expensive, though the ship hull still is. Should tank about 250dps of guristas damagetype, if sitting still.

Car Wars
Mortis Angelus
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.07.31 16:01:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Dr Nefarius
My tips:



[Machariel, RattingGuristas suggestion]


Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II



Large Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier II


Yes, less tank on it, but you are capstable at 47%



now why would it tank less....

Cap stable, lol why?

Newbie Ned
Minmatar
Real Nice And Laidback Corporation
Posted - 2010.07.31 18:04:00 - [4]
 

I've been looking at a similar set-up and it seems to come down to this - Large boost cap stable 400dps guristas tank or XL boost with cap charges 300dps sustained, 500 peak tank. (non faction)

I currently fly a Raven that has a 450-500 dps tank and it is only just enough tank for the harder anoms with lots of jamming, so it looks like I have to go with the XL, even though I prefer cap stable tanks in case of DCs.(non faction).

This doesn't take into account a "speed tank". Does this really work with a Mach doing 600 m/s?

Terianna Eri
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
Posted - 2010.07.31 18:23:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Newbie Ned
This doesn't take into account a "speed tank". Does this really work with a Mach doing 600 m/s?

Yes, it absolutely does. A 600 m/s Machariel will take more damage from heavies and lights than it will from cruise and torps.

Also, don't bother getting a Maelstrom if you already have the Machariel. T1 guns are suboptimal but it's not like you're using T2 ammo for ratting anyway, and the Machariel's higher DPS and range bonus will easily make up for lower skills.

The OP's fit is fine, but you should drop a flux coil for a 3rd tracking enhancer. I do sanctums with a 4 slot, T2 tank (2 kin, 1 invuln, 1 LSB II) and no cap mods on my ship, and it's perfectly fine.

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2010.07.31 20:24:00 - [6]
 

XL booster fits, so you might as well. There's no real down side (as long as you remember to switch it off).

Newbie Ned
Minmatar
Real Nice And Laidback Corporation
Posted - 2010.07.31 21:32:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Newbie Ned on 31/07/2010 21:53:46
Edited by: Newbie Ned on 31/07/2010 21:32:55
Originally by: Terianna Eri

The OP's fit is fine, but you should drop a flux coil for a 3rd tracking enhancer. I do sanctums with a 4 slot, T2 tank (2 kin, 1 invuln, 1 LSB II) and no cap mods on my ship, and it's perfectly fine.


My EFT says this is about a 350 dps tank, which I don't see doing the toughest sanctums I mentioned above. So either you are mistaken or I am stupid and going on previous form I have to go with the stupid option. What am I missing? The speed tank I guess - I never thought it would make a 150dps difference? I am going to start with a DCU II in the lows (adds 50 tank dps) cos I'm also chicken when it comes to 750 mil ships!

Given 6 lows would 4 gyros/2 TEs or 3/3 work better?

Terianna Eri
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
Posted - 2010.08.01 03:37:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Terianna Eri on 01/08/2010 03:38:31
Originally by: Newbie Ned
Originally by: Terianna Eri

The OP's fit is fine, but you should drop a flux coil for a 3rd tracking enhancer. I do sanctums with a 4 slot, T2 tank (2 kin, 1 invuln, 1 LSB II) and no cap mods on my ship, and it's perfectly fine.


My EFT says this is about a 350 dps tank, which I don't see doing the toughest sanctums I mentioned above. So either you are mistaken or I am stupid and going on previous form I have to go with the stupid option. What am I missing? The speed tank I guess - I never thought it would make a 150dps difference? I am going to start with a DCU II in the lows (adds 50 tank dps) cos I'm also chicken when it comes to 750 mil ships!

Given 6 lows would 4 gyros/2 TEs or 3/3 work better?

My EFT says it is a ~450 DPS tank against "guristas" damage type (86% kinetic, 14% thermal) with 2x Ballistic Deflection II, 1x Invuln II, and 1x Large Shield Booster II.

The speed tank does make a huge difference, considering that the vast majority of the DPS comes from the battleships. To be honest the ship kills NPCs so fast and shrugs off so much damage from the speed that even in difficult sanctums I rarely use the booster.

Forgot to mention - I go with 3 Gyro/3 TE/Nanofiber (wheee). Some people go 4 gyro/3 TE, but 3x TE is definitely worth using on this ship. Lets you take out annoying cruisers much more quickly.

Suboran
Gallente
Best Path Inc.
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2010.08.01 14:19:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Thatkidnamedrocky
Machariel


800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I




no

Manyk
Posted - 2010.08.02 12:53:00 - [10]
 

Mach (800mm ac) with 4 rfgs, 3dte in lows is pure ****, go for the heavy hitters first, easy rider


 

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