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Rone Corbusier
Gallente
The Intaki Ladies Deep Space Astrogation Auxiliary
Posted - 2010.07.24 16:35:00 - [1]
 

I just trained up for it and now my Dad gave me some isk and a Golem for my 16th birthday! I have 5b isk to fit a Golem with.

I only wish to fly it for level 4 missions so I can afford to fit it the best possible.

Can someone give me a good fitting for it please? I tried torps and x-l shield booster but it doesn't fit. I don't want to put PDS on it ideally, I want (I think) 3 BCU and a damage control).

Thanks for any help.

NoNah
Posted - 2010.07.24 16:40:00 - [2]
 

[Golem, New Setup 4]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

Caldari Navy X-Large Shield Booster
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Domination Target Painter
Domination Target Painter
Domination Target Painter
Gist B-Type 100MN Afterburner
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 25

Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Javelin Torpedo
Small Tractor Beam I
Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Javelin Torpedo
Salvager II
Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Javelin Torpedo
Small Tractor Beam I
Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Javelin Torpedo

Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II


Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5


That's pretty much as good as it gets. If you really want to spend more isk on it, get crystal implants and possible better BCUs even if I wouldn't recommend it. If you're desperate for income and speed, go with a decent smartbomb, but if you don't know how to handle it, don't use it.

Peckles
The Reformists of the West
Posted - 2010.07.24 16:45:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: NoNah
go with a decent smartbomb


This more than anything else.

Rone Corbusier
Gallente
The Intaki Ladies Deep Space Astrogation Auxiliary
Posted - 2010.07.24 16:58:00 - [4]
 

Lol I'm not putting 5b isk into a ship and putting a smart bomb on it so I can get concorded by some random probe ship!

I forgot to mention, is a navy raven or a rattlesnake or a ??? something else better for mission running. I'm less bothered about salvaging I forgot to mention that thanks.

I came up with this based on the above fit, I don't like not having a heavy cap thing but I guess its only to support a burst shield boost setup so its not important.


[Golem, Rone16]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Damage Control II

Pith C-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier
Core C-Type 100MN Afterburner
Caldari Navy Ballistic Deflection Field
Caldari Navy Heat Dissipation Field
True Sansha Medium Capacitor Booster, Cap Booster 800
Domination Target Painter

Caldari Navy Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo
Caldari Navy Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo
Caldari Navy Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo
Caldari Navy Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo
Small Tractor Beam I
Small Tractor Beam I
Salvager I

Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II


Warrior II x5
Hammerhead II x5

I already have the afterburner and shield booster and hardeners so that's why I used them thanks.

stoicfaux
Gallente
Posted - 2010.07.24 17:20:00 - [5]
 

You need T2 torp launchers in order to use Javelin torps for anything that's 41+ km away.
You need 2-3 target painters in order to maximize your torpedo damage. Otherwise, you may as well just fly a CNR with cruise lanchers.
If you can't use a Salvager II, then use one tractor beam and two Salvager I's.


You may want to look into a cruise CNR or cruise Rattlesnake instead.


Jade Kitana
Posted - 2010.07.24 18:29:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Peckles
Originally by: NoNah
go with a decent smartbomb


This more than anything else.



Good way to get your ship Concorded if used in Hi-Sec.
A lot of players like to warp to mission sites cloaked for this reason alone.


MrRobot
Amarr
Ship Trading Company
United Pod Service
Posted - 2010.07.24 21:27:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: NoNah
[Golem, New Setup 4]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

Caldari Navy X-Large Shield Booster
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Domination Target Painter
Domination Target Painter
Domination Target Painter
Gist B-Type 100MN Afterburner
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 25

Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Javelin Torpedo
Small Tractor Beam I
Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Javelin Torpedo
Salvager II
Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Javelin Torpedo
Small Tractor Beam I
Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Javelin Torpedo

Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II


Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5


That's pretty much as good as it gets. If you really want to spend more isk on it, get crystal implants and possible better BCUs even if I wouldn't recommend it. If you're desperate for income and speed, go with a decent smartbomb, but if you don't know how to handle it, don't use it.


why not replacing all siege launchers with smartbombs? also put some more target painters in the mids. don't forget to activate them before launching the sb's to maximise damage. this will be the ultimate Golem, thats sure...Wink

Sinola
Posted - 2010.07.25 10:36:00 - [8]
 

My Mission Golem looks like this:

4x Siege Missile Launcher II
2x Tractor
1x Salvager II

Pith A-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier
4x Caldari Navy <whatever resistance you need> Field
1x "the best target painter that fits"

1x DC II
3x Caldari Navy BCS

1x Large Hydraulic Bay Thruster II
1x Large Rocket Fuel Cche Partition II

I always use T2 Torps and have up to about 60km range with Javelin and 40km with Rage torps
Works fine... and doesnt cost 5B
You can upgrade some of the Caldary Navy Fields with Pith A-Type fields, but thats not really necessary.

What would you need the Cap Boosters for? Absolutely not necessary.
Your goal is to kill quick and not to permarun your shield boosters.


Sani Venner
Posted - 2010.07.25 11:12:00 - [9]
 

Why are people fitting an XL booster to a Golem? It's completely unnecessary. If money is no concern, there is no beating greengimp's fit:

[Golem, Torp Golem]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster
Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Domination Target Painter
Domination Target Painter
Domination Target Painter

Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo
Small Tractor Beam I
Salvager I
Salvager I

Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Large Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II


Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5

Robot Unicorn
Posted - 2010.07.25 11:38:00 - [10]
 

Posting with your main and boasting that you're gonna be flying a 5bil ship in highsec isn't very wise.

Just sayin'.

Heun zero
Caldari
Aegis Evolution
Posted - 2010.07.25 12:01:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Robot Unicorn
Posting with your main and boasting that you're gonna be flying a 5bil ship in highsec isn't very wise.

Just sayin'.


Yes I'll run a locator agent as soon as server is back up..

p.s. Smartbombs are the way forward man. seriously!

agel blonde
Posted - 2010.07.25 12:29:00 - [12]
 

Rone,

you dont need to put lots of faction n stuff in it to work well even a perma boosting shield fit will likely out dps a nighhawk which some peeps use for l4's:
[Golem, perma tank]

Internal Force Field Array I
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Capacitor Power Relay II

Shield Boost Amplifier II
Large Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Cap Recharger II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Photon Scattering Field II

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile
Salvager I
Salvager I
Small Tractor Beam I

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

Works quite well, else you could go for a more ganky setup with torps but you will need an ab probably aswell so then you gonna need a navy booster to get it to fit:

[Golem, torp tech2]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Internal Force Field Array I

Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Dread Guristas X-Large Shield Booster
Photon Scattering Field II
Target Painter II
100MN Afterburner II
Target Painter II

Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Torpedo
Small Tractor Beam I
Small Tractor Beam I
Salvager I

Large Rocket Fuel Cache Partition I
Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I

(the DG one is just as good as a navy one but i think its cheaper)




Drek Grapper
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.07.25 14:04:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Drek Grapper on 25/07/2010 14:07:41

Edited by: Drek Grapper on 25/07/2010 14:04:41

Its simple...

3 things that must be on a T2 Seige Golem -

Must have 4 BCU's (prefferably CN)

Must have at least 2-3 TP's

Must use at least 2 Hydraulic Bay Thrusters (1 T2 and 1 T1 is ok....)

What it does not need is to perma run, nor does it need an XL Shield Booster or a Cap Booster.

NoNah
Posted - 2010.07.25 16:05:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Drek Grapper


What it does not need is to perma run, nor does it need an XL Shield Booster or a Cap Booster.


Nor is there any reason not to use either Xl boosters(Best performance, no real drawbacks). Going with a medium shield booster and no cap modules means you'll have to suboptimally manage aggro(IE shooting all triggers first for them to get in range in time)

As for the smartbomb, you are able to read reservations and understand that there are more than one way and place of flying ships like these right? There really is a world outside of motsu.

General Trajan
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2010.07.25 17:05:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Sani Venner
Why are people fitting an XL booster to a Golem? It's completely unnecessary. If money is no concern, there is no beating greengimp's fit:

[Golem, Torp Golem]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster
Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Domination Target Painter
Domination Target Painter
Domination Target Painter

Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo
Small Tractor Beam I
Salvager I
Salvager I

Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Large Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II


Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5



^^^now that's gangsta! Cool

Frozean
Posted - 2010.07.25 21:20:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Frozean on 25/07/2010 21:23:03
This is my fit. Only used in Minmatar space.

The fit has 400 ish dps tank, with my skills and crystal set.More then enough for missions.

The fit has 5 target painters, 2-4 dedicated to hitting with torps (the last TP still gives 5-10% vs elite cruisers, focus them).

You always run all of them like a piano. If you only need 2 for Battleships, you run 3 for your drones, making them the best hammerhead user in eve.This golems hammerheads can alpha spider drones in one hit.

Swap on TP for AB for certain missions like UMP and score. Use a Cruise CNR for sniping serpentis/mordus missions


[Golem, Torp Golem]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Domination Target Painter
Domination Target Painter
Domination Target Painter
Domination Target Painter
Domination Target Painter

Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo
Small Tractor Beam I
Salvager II
Salvager II

Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Large Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II


Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5

Peckles
The Reformists of the West
Posted - 2010.07.25 21:21:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Frozean
This is my fit. Only used in Minmatar space.

The fit has 400 ish dps tank, with my skills and crystal set.More then enough for missions.

The fit has 5 target painters, 2-4 dedicated to hitting with torps (the last TP still gives 5-10% vs elite cruisers, focus them).

You always run all of them like a piano. If you only need 2 for Battleships, you run 3 for your drones, making them the best hammerhead user in eve.This golems hammerheads can alpha spider drones in one hit.


[Golem, Torp Golem]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Domination Target Painter
Domination Target Painter
Domination Target Painter
Domination Target Painter
Domination Target Painter

Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo
Small Tractor Beam I
Salvager II
Salvager II

Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Large Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II


Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5


Props, thats a fit from someone who has balls.

Happy Lady
Posted - 2010.07.25 21:31:00 - [18]
 

I would fit a tengu and a golem and a cnr and a cerebus and basically every other caldari missile ship you can think of.

Mordiss Nex
Posted - 2010.07.25 21:51:00 - [19]
 

Nice. For my 16th birthday my dad gave me a Smith & Wesson .38 snubby.

On topic ... The PWNGE (?) Target painter is always better to use than a T2 target painter, less cap or better fitting can't remember.

Brannor McThife
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2010.07.26 01:56:00 - [20]
 

I'm by no means a Golem expert, but here's how mine currently looks, and I plan to upgrade my launchers and BCUs to Caldari Navy ones shortly. I built mine this way so that it CAN perma run. I've had to walk away to go attend to my 2-year old at night and left it running tanking 9 Serpentis BS and about 10 cruisers.

LOW:
3 x BCU II
1 x DC II

MID:
Cap Recharger II
Gist B-Type Large Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amp II
Shield Boost Amp II / PWNAGE (Depends on battleship/cruiser heavy mission)
Thermal shield resist II (name escapes me now...)
2x Ballistic shield resist II

(Obviously shuffle resists as required)

HIGH:
4 x Arbalest Cruise Missile Launchers; Caldari Navy Cruise Missiles
2 x Salvager I
1 x Tractor Beam I

RIGS:
Capacitor rigs.

Easily fits the ship, and with my skills is a perma tank. With both Amps I get just over 500 shield boost every cycle. I can almost 1-shot battlecruisers... will look to up my missile skills to ensure this.

This setup doesn't cost a fortune and works nicely for me. Oneday I'll consider a torp Golem, but it just seems overly complex and restricted (setup and implants) getting the torps to reach 40km and then gimp (my view) your tank to use lots of TP to kill other things.

-G

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2010.07.26 03:41:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Brannor McThife

3 x BCU II

I can almost 1-shot battlecruisers... will look to up my missile skills to ensure this.



Seems like there's a clear upgrade path to fix that. ;-)

Quote:
4 x Arbalest Cruise Missile Launchers; Caldari Navy Cruise Missiles


CN Cruise and T2 are both better than Arbalests. You should use one of them.

-Liang

Brannor McThife
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2010.07.26 04:44:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Brannor McThife

3 x BCU II

I can almost 1-shot battlecruisers... will look to up my missile skills to ensure this.



Seems like there's a clear upgrade path to fix that. ;-)

Quote:
4 x Arbalest Cruise Missile Launchers; Caldari Navy Cruise Missiles


CN Cruise and T2 are both better than Arbalests. You should use one of them.

-Liang


My OP:
Originally by: Brannor McThife

...and I plan to upgrade my launchers and BCUs to Caldari Navy ones shortly.



Duh. :p

Have my 5-run CN Launcher BPC in my hangar...just need to skills to utilise it. Then a stack of missions with my new agent to get to 135k LP and the 5-run CN BCU BPC.

-G

Neesha Marinn
Caldari
PWNED Factor Elite
Posted - 2010.07.26 07:21:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: Neesha Marinn on 26/07/2010 07:22:27
Originally by: NoNah
[Golem, New Setup 4]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

Caldari Navy X-Large Shield Booster
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Domination Target Painter
Domination Target Painter
Domination Target Painter
Gist B-Type 100MN Afterburner
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 25

Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Javelin Torpedo
Small Tractor Beam I
Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Javelin Torpedo
Salvager II
Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Javelin Torpedo
Small Tractor Beam I
Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Javelin Torpedo

Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II


Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5


That's pretty much as good as it gets. If you really want to spend more isk on it, get crystal implants and possible better BCUs even if I wouldn't recommend it. If you're desperate for income and speed, go with a decent smartbomb, but if you don't know how to handle it, don't use it.


Capboosters and XL Boosters are both so unnecessary in PvE.
I dare say a capbooster is even pretty fail tbh.
Large booster setups do the job well enough.
Manage the tank properly and you just dont need injections.

And the faction mods? Not too necessary either.
Fly it well and you dont need a warp out ever with simple T2 mods.
At best id say a faction Large booster and maybe a faction SBA.

Now the crystals I would recommend, simply because that does not only affect the Golem, But every other active shield tanked ship you decide to fly from there on.

Dr Nefarius
Posted - 2010.07.26 07:31:00 - [24]
 

The single best advice I've seen here is to get a crystal implant set. Simply because it's a lot lower risk of loosing your pod then your ship while missioning in highsec. If you get the crystal set I'd probably advice you to go with this of the setups posted so far:

[Golem, Torp Golem]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster
Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Domination Target Painter
Domination Target Painter
Domination Target Painter

Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo
Small Tractor Beam I
Salvager I
Salvager I

Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Large Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II


Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5


With crystal set this setup gives you 853 dps tank..... and not far from capstable when not running salvagers and tractor beam. The 3 faction painters will help your torp dps immensly.

Also it doesn't cost 5b, which means that you will get too keep the ship a bit longer, and wont get suicided after a couple hours.



Poldarn Joaq
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.07.26 07:42:00 - [25]
 

If you are fitting a damage control to a Golem you are doing it wrong. If you are doing missions that are getting through your active shield tank then best do something else or get a buddy along.


 

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