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Bobbechk
Caldari
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.07.24 13:07:00 - [31]
 

ahahaha this thread

Jade Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2010.07.24 13:08:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: RifterDrifter
Remember when CVA got killed by a bug a few months ago and everybody was all sad and -A- and U'K promised to help and when CVAs sov got restored everybody got all worked up and homotional?




Yes I remember that and didn't Aralis say something about feeling indebted to the honour of his enemies or something? I guess losing all his sovereignty and falling back on hydra support made him accidentally drop his moral compass down a well or something. Say what you like about Eve online, this game certainly has the capacity to make complete snakes out of people Very Happy


Stayche
Minmatar
Cruoris Seraphim
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2010.07.24 13:08:00 - [33]
 

gf o7 o7 o7

Lykouleon
Gallente
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.07.24 13:09:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Icarus3
Why else would you even give a damn about providence?


Butter Dog made Garmon all ~butt hurt~, so this is his masterful revenge.

ThrashPower
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2010.07.24 13:09:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Icarus3
Why else would you even give a damn about providence?

maybe cuz we preferred to roam old provi over the new provi m8?

Heitaro Kimura
Caldari
Selectus Pravus Lupus
Transmission Lost
Posted - 2010.07.24 13:09:00 - [36]
 

ATM it looks like M3rse/Tarac Nor (one of NKB's directors) has decided to give everyone the middle finger. He's locked out all other directors and is in the process of moving sov/stations to Hydra.

Icarus3
Gallente
Percussive Diplomacy
Posted - 2010.07.24 13:11:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: ThrashPower
Originally by: Icarus3
Why else would you even give a damn about providence?

maybe cuz we preferred to roam old provi over the new provi m8?


Any why is this? because the new provi actually fights back? Efficiency tends to drop when you have to fight actual pvpers rather than intel blind / inexperienced neutrals eh?

Shiroi Okami
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2010.07.24 13:13:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Jade Constantine
So tell us whats happening Hydra warriors. You seem to have all the juicy intel, spill the beans already!


Believe me Jade I would like to, but I think Garmon wants that honour, and rather than make the 12 year old welsh potty mouth start yelling I'll let him have that one Laughing

Lykouleon
Gallente
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.07.24 13:14:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Icarus3
Originally by: ThrashPower
Originally by: Icarus3
Why else would you even give a damn about providence?

maybe cuz we preferred to roam old provi over the new provi m8?


Any why is this? because the new provi actually fights back? Efficiency tends to drop when you have to fight actual pvpers rather than intel blind / inexperienced neutrals eh?


No, new provi just blobs 10x faster Confused

blob =/= fighting back

Deviana Sevidon
Gallente
Panta-Rhei
Butterfly Effect Alliance
Posted - 2010.07.24 13:15:00 - [40]
 

Don't blame him, sucking up to AAA, IT and BoB would drop the moral compass of anyone into the gutters.

Count MonteCarlo
Minmatar
Genos Occidere
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.07.24 13:20:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Icarus3
Originally by: ThrashPower
Originally by: Icarus3
Why else would you even give a damn about providence?

maybe cuz we preferred to roam old provi over the new provi m8?


Any why is this? because the new provi actually fights back? Efficiency tends to drop when you have to fight actual pvpers rather than intel blind / inexperienced neutrals eh?


because the old providence faught back

fmercury
Caldari
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.07.24 13:24:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Icarus3
Originally by: ThrashPower
Originally by: Icarus3
Why else would you even give a damn about providence?

maybe cuz we preferred to roam old provi over the new provi m8?


Any why is this? because the new provi actually fights back? Efficiency tends to drop when you have to fight actual pvpers rather than intel blind / inexperienced neutrals eh?


no, you just dock

Icarus3
Gallente
Percussive Diplomacy
Posted - 2010.07.24 13:25:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Count MonteCarlo
Originally by: Icarus3
Originally by: ThrashPower
Originally by: Icarus3
Why else would you even give a damn about providence?

maybe cuz we preferred to roam old provi over the new provi m8?


Any why is this? because the new provi actually fights back? Efficiency tends to drop when you have to fight actual pvpers rather than intel blind / inexperienced neutrals eh?


because the old providence faught back


I was "unfortunate" enough to be involved in old providence... they didn't fight back lol.. muppet factory themselves as a corp practically owned YMP any time they wished... come to think of it... I don't remember seeing you all that often :-P

Jade Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2010.07.24 13:28:00 - [44]
 


Have you considered selling KBP back to Sev3rance?

I always enjoyed raiding them.

Gangleri
Amarr
1st Praetorian Guard
Posted - 2010.07.24 13:35:00 - [45]
 

An atrocious action done. Hydra just did fall to be bottom low in the collection of EVE players with no moral and decency at all. I so much hate metagamers.

Zaglis
Gallente
Einherjar Rising
Cry Havoc.
Posted - 2010.07.24 13:35:00 - [46]
 

Killing one of the oldest alliances in eve. GG ****head.

To: CCP, so only 5% of share votes is needed to kick a Holding corp CEO? WTF?

ShadowandLight
Amarr
Cryptonym Sleepers
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2010.07.24 13:43:00 - [47]
 

Karma is a mother****er.....

Please do not evade the profanity filter. Zymurgist

fmercury
Caldari
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.07.24 13:44:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Zaglis
Killing one of the oldest alliances in eve. GG ****head.

To: CCP, so only 5% of share votes is needed to kick a Holding corp CEO? WTF?


it's not dead, it's only just beginning.

also, yes, if the other 95% of the shares are afk V:

Icarus3
Gallente
Percussive Diplomacy
Posted - 2010.07.24 13:45:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Zaglis
Killing one of the oldest alliances in eve. GG ****head.

To: CCP, so only 5% of share votes is needed to kick a Holding corp CEO? WTF?


Yeah...
I damn well hope CCP actually pays attention to this crap for once. On that note... has this issue been raised by the CSM already? If so then why was it ignored given then it's obviously a major issue here.

Kat Powers
Gallente
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2010.07.24 13:46:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: ShadowandLight
Karma is a mother****er.....

Please do not evade the profanity filter. Zymurgist
I don't get it. We brought this upon ourselves because of our rampant and well-known use of metagaming?

Shiroi Okami
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2010.07.24 13:46:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Icarus3
Originally by: Zaglis
Killing one of the oldest alliances in eve. GG ****head.

To: CCP, so only 5% of share votes is needed to kick a Holding corp CEO? WTF?


Yeah...
I damn well hope CCP actually pays attention to this crap for once. On that note... has this issue been raised by the CSM already? If so then why was it ignored given then it's obviously a major issue here.


Not quite. It came down to the fact that the only person with enough shares to prevent this was inactive, and had been for several months.

Jade Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2010.07.24 13:57:00 - [52]
 


Killed a piece of Eve heritage by exploiting a crappily undeveloped alliance management system and once again demonstrating why CCP need to devote some development teams to fixing and correcting broken old content.

Ushra'khan was one of the oldest alliance names in the game.

Rest in piece, you earned your place in history.

Icarus3
Gallente
Percussive Diplomacy
Posted - 2010.07.24 13:58:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: Shiroi Okami
Originally by: Icarus3
Originally by: Zaglis
Killing one of the oldest alliances in eve. GG ****head.

To: CCP, so only 5% of share votes is needed to kick a Holding corp CEO? WTF?


Yeah...
I damn well hope CCP actually pays attention to this crap for once. On that note... has this issue been raised by the CSM already? If so then why was it ignored given then it's obviously a major issue here.


Not quite. It came down to the fact that the only person with enough shares to prevent this was inactive, and had been for several months.



You mean Karn? If so then stating he's been inactive for several months I feel to be incorrect as I've seen him online / have spoken to him in the past "several" months

Shiroi Okami
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2010.07.24 14:00:00 - [54]
 

Edited by: Shiroi Okami on 24/07/2010 14:00:30
Originally by: Icarus3
Originally by: Shiroi Okami
Originally by: Icarus3
Originally by: Zaglis
Killing one of the oldest alliances in eve. GG ****head.

To: CCP, so only 5% of share votes is needed to kick a Holding corp CEO? WTF?


Yeah...
I damn well hope CCP actually pays attention to this crap for once. On that note... has this issue been raised by the CSM already? If so then why was it ignored given then it's obviously a major issue here.


Not quite. It came down to the fact that the only person with enough shares to prevent this was inactive, and had been for several months.





You mean Karn? If so then stating he's been inactive for several months I feel to be incorrect as I've seen him online / have spoken to him in the past "several" months

I was talking about Sapphrine, the previous Executor of UK. My heart goes out to Karn in this though, it is the worst for him, as UK was basically his alliance.

Aralis
Amarr
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2010.07.24 14:02:00 - [55]
 

To answer some of the points raised here and clear the air a bit a rare CVA announcement.

We did not in any way cause this, though obviously we are beneficiaries.

This is not hacking or metagaming. It's a genuine disgruntled faction within UK. (Not the first of those in recent times but the first to take it so far.)

If this was hacking obviously we would stand clear. It's not. This is a valid in game action, not a nice one, but a legal one. Yes personally I agree these are crap game mechanics. But many crap game mechanics have hurt us. This is how it is.

As a player I sympathise for the old timers who did keep their honour and do not deserve this. (Though most of UK have seemed to lack any honour for some time. Mucho metagaming has been used against us.) However this is an in game, in character action and obviously there I am pleased.

ShadowandLight
Amarr
Cryptonym Sleepers
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2010.07.24 14:04:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: Aralis
To answer some of the points raised here and clear the air a bit a rare CVA announcement.

We did not in any way cause this, though obviously we are beneficiaries.

This is not hacking or metagaming. It's a genuine disgruntled faction within UK. (Not the first of those in recent times but the first to take it so far.)

If this was hacking obviously we would stand clear. It's not. This is a valid in game action, not a nice one, but a legal one. Yes personally I agree these are crap game mechanics. But many crap game mechanics have hurt us. This is how it is.

As a player I sympathise for the old timers who did keep their honour and do not deserve this. (Though most of UK have seemed to lack any honour for some time. Mucho metagaming has been used against us.) However this is an in game, in character action and obviously there I am pleased.


Here Here.... DDD inside POS Shields & UK spies sitting on Comms are my 2 favs.

Franga
Caldari
NQX Innovations
The KWFL Republic
Posted - 2010.07.24 14:05:00 - [57]
 

/me adjusts his shirt.

foksieloy
Minmatar
Rockets ponies and rainbows
Posted - 2010.07.24 14:06:00 - [58]
 

Posting in a WIdot thread.

Jade Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2010.07.24 14:09:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Aralis
To answer some of the points raised here and clear the air a bit a rare CVA announcement.

We did not in any way cause this, though obviously we are beneficiaries.

This is not hacking or metagaming. It's a genuine disgruntled faction within UK. (Not the first of those in recent times but the first to take it so far.)

If this was hacking obviously we would stand clear. It's not. This is a valid in game action, not a nice one, but a legal one. Yes personally I agree these are crap game mechanics. But many crap game mechanics have hurt us. This is how it is.

As a player I sympathise for the old timers who did keep their honour and do not deserve this. (Though most of UK have seemed to lack any honour for some time. Mucho metagaming has been used against us.) However this is an in game, in character action and obviously there I am pleased.



You are a disgraceful hypocritical man and everything you have ever stood for is now revealed as so much noise and froth. Any members of the CVA who care about their reputation in Eve should leave your organization right now. You understand this is poor game mechanics, its a broken part of the alliance management system, yet you are prepared to take full advantage already anchoring SBU's and seeking to recapture the territory that was taken from you in war.

When this happened to your alliance Ushra'khan, AAA, SF and dozen's of other eve RP and non-RP entities stood up immediately and condemned it before we knew what the story was because we disapproved with the action on principle. We didn't know whether you'd be hacked or it was a traitor or it was a game glitch but we still condemned it and decided not to attack your space because we didn't like the idea of an old and famous Eve alliance being taken down with this kind of disreputable and pathetic glitchy disband.

Yet here you stand spitting in the face of those who defended you against precisely this kind of attack and trying to justify it on the murky accusation of "metagaming" against your enemies.

I've never liked you Aralis. I've never trusted or respected you. I've always considered you a snake and dishonest man. Now I know I was right all along.

Icarus3
Gallente
Percussive Diplomacy
Posted - 2010.07.24 14:10:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: Aralis
To answer some of the points raised here and clear the air a bit a rare CVA announcement.

We did not in any way cause this, though obviously we are beneficiaries.

This is not hacking or metagaming. It's a genuine disgruntled faction within UK. (Not the first of those in recent times but the first to take it so far.)

If this was hacking obviously we would stand clear. It's not. This is a valid in game action, not a nice one, but a legal one. Yes personally I agree these are crap game mechanics. But many crap game mechanics have hurt us. This is how it is.

As a player I sympathise for the old timers who did keep their honour and do not deserve this. (Though most of UK have seemed to lack any honour for some time. Mucho metagaming has been used against us.) However this is an in game, in character action and obviously there I am pleased.


Not responsible but beneficiaries yet you have the knowledge of the why an who... interesting...

I know a liar when I see one... this will come back to haunt you Aralis.


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