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Mercurial Blood
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2010.07.26 23:39:00 - [331]
 

Originally by: Admiral Goberius
Originally by: Butter Dog
well done, that crappy gang needed to die. Target painting BC's.... it made me want to weep Embarassed

(it was to counter a rzr gang, why they fought you i have no idea, it was only going to end one way)


butters your posting is freaking godawful and this is coming from someone who occasionally appreciates and supports windy and jade posting

random people literally read your posts and think "god I wanna come to provi and push butter's **** in"

stop posting jackass

stop

posting


- Gob



DON'T LISTEN TO HIM BUTTAR DOG YOU ARE LIKE FORUM KRYPTONITE TO HYDRA. Your witty retorts and

Never stop posting!!!

NEVER
STOP
POSTING!!!

--
Merc

Ohh Yeah
Minmatar
SniggWaffe
Posted - 2010.07.27 01:18:00 - [332]
 

Originally by: Mercurial Blood
Originally by: Razzor Death
If everyone sends me 20mill each I will never stop pushing for a Co2 CAOD posting ban.

Will start once I hit 20b


go




... Razzor, no one really cares that much about Co2's posting.

I on the otherhand, am taking donations and once I reach 2.5B I will reveal Garmon's real first name!!!

--
Merc


Everyone already knows his first name is Ramsey. If you send me only 2.0B I will reveal his LAST NAME and a pic of him IRL.

Kazzzi
Amarr
Heathen Legion
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2010.07.27 01:56:00 - [333]
 

Originally by: Garreck

Wrong.

I'm glad many spies were caught, but when your allies passed you intel and said it came from Divine visions of Amarr baby Jesus, they meant spies.

Originally by: Garreck
Originally by: Kazzzi

Not to mention the abuse of extended downtime mechanics to towerspam U'K out of their system back then.

Oh gawd. This again? Really?


Sure, After all, it seems we're going to have to hear people whine about what they think happened at D-G until the server ends.
Originally by: Garreck

CVA's reaction to this will likely be more or less in accordance with the new standards of "play to win so long as it ain't against the EULA


Whatever your rationale, awesome, no holds barred, we're looking forward to it. See you in space.


Ae0lian
Caldari
Militaris Industries
Damu'Khonde
Posted - 2010.07.27 01:57:00 - [334]
 

Edited by: Ae0lian on 27/07/2010 01:59:32
Edited by: Ae0lian on 27/07/2010 01:58:44
Originally by: Aralis
To answer some of the points raised here and clear the air a bit a rare CVA announcement.

We did not in any way cause this, though obviously we are beneficiaries.

This is not hacking or metagaming. It's a genuine disgruntled faction within UK. (Not the first of those in recent times but the first to take it so far.)

If this was hacking obviously we would stand clear. It's not. This is a valid in game action, not a nice one, but a legal one. Yes personally I agree these are crap game mechanics. But many crap game mechanics have hurt us. This is how it is.

As a player I sympathise for the old timers who did keep their honour and do not deserve this. (Though most of UK have seemed to lack any honour for some time. Mucho metagaming has been used against us.) However this is an in game, in character action and obviously there I am pleased.


I fought for you once, I even died many times and fought in battles to stop U'K from taking Provi. I respected you too.

Well, that goes out the window, You made a deal with opticon and left them to the wolves, you did it to the holders during the Provi war. You will end up doing it again. I wont stop until CVA is no more, and I will do this by adding your pets and you to my kill board, not by snaking into an alliance and taking it over

Tarac Nor
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2010.07.27 02:09:00 - [335]
 

Edited by: Tarac Nor on 27/07/2010 02:13:15
Originally by: Ae0lian


I fought for you once, I even died many times and fought in battles to stop U'K from taking Provi. I respected you too.

Well, that goes out the window, You made a deal with opticon and left them to the wolves, you did it to the holders during the Provi war. You will end up doing it again. I wont stop until CVA is no more, and I will do this by adding your pets and you to my kill board, not by snaking into an alliance and taking it over


Why do people still think that i was a spy all along, there was no sneaking on the part of hydra or cva. This was a crime of opportunity and i just happened to tell my friends in hydra about it. Very Happy

Also no more QQ about mechanics please, its working as intended, just don't leave any loose shares in the corporation wallets in any corp and your corporation is secure as far as takeovers go. There is no push one button and everyone is gone, it took 72 hours and people not noticing mails to realize something was wrong.

GeMan
Gallente
Endless Possibilities Inc.
Circle-Of-Two
Posted - 2010.07.27 02:13:00 - [336]
 

Originally by: lord xavier
I completely disagree with this. The game mechanics are realism. The way this was achieved is purely amazing, resourceful and quite frankly. I give those responsible for this a pat on the back. They clearly used a system in which for a RPing alliance should look at as "Being overthrown." Traitorous actions and Treason happen in both games and real life. Why change the mechanics to fixate a game into being more unrealistic?


Please. Your giving this puke (and HYDRA pukes) way more credit than he/they deserve. This wasn't RP, this wasn't some well thought out treacherous act imitating Real Life.

This was a bored, frustrated, attention grabbing adolescent that decided to act on an impulse, and see how much chaos he could create with his rowdy friend before leaving EvE.

He did it because he could, not for any other glamerous reason you want to make up.


Tarac Nor
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2010.07.27 02:15:00 - [337]
 

Who said i was leaving eve, what gave you guys that idea????

Ae0lian
Caldari
Militaris Industries
Damu'Khonde
Posted - 2010.07.27 04:10:00 - [338]
 

Originally by: Tarac Nor
Who said i was leaving eve, what gave you guys that idea????


even if you change accounts, people like you brag, and people that hear talk. I hope you enjoy rookie ships, cuz that about all your ever gonna fly once this is all settled

Garreck
Gallente
Amarr Border Defense Consortium
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2010.07.27 04:12:00 - [339]
 

Originally by: Kazzzi

I'm glad many spies were caught, but when your allies passed you intel and said it came from Divine visions of Amarr baby Jesus, they meant spies.

The only intel ever passed by our allies to my knowledge was eyes-on tactical info in our regional security channel. Any strategic level info offered to us from spies was always forward straight to U'K leadership along with the name of the source. This was our understanding of our relationship until U'K pilots were bowling CVA POSes and acting on real-time intel garnered from our teamspeak or ventrillo.

Play the game how you want, of course, but at that point we were clearly beyond the typical decorum from days of yore. Aralis was under no obligation to share the info he had in the way things had been done in the past.

Originally by: Kazzzi
Originally by: Garreck

CVA's reaction to this will likely be more or less in accordance with the new standards of "play to win so long as it ain't against the EULA


Whatever your rationale, awesome, no holds barred, we're looking forward to it. See you in space.


I wasn't exactly clear in my statement. Our standards remain unchanged as regards various legal-but-questionably-ethical issues oft cried about in CAOD ("metagaming" is the usually misapplied term). We don't engage in it. That is for our own satisfaction. The change I refer to is in previously unspoken obligation by CVA leadership to U'K leadership in regards to spies targetting U'K.

All that said...well, the message has been clear from U'K's end for a little while now, Kazzzi. The irony is U'K didn't need to play "dirty" to beat us in Provi, and if certain standards had been honored, this whole situation may've been called out by Aralis per previous instances if we felt that standard was still mutual.

Ae0lian
Caldari
Militaris Industries
Damu'Khonde
Posted - 2010.07.27 04:18:00 - [340]
 

Originally by: Garreck
Originally by: Kazzzi

I'm glad many spies were caught, but when your allies passed you intel and said it came from Divine visions of Amarr baby Jesus, they meant spies.

The only intel ever passed by our allies to my knowledge was eyes-on tactical info in our regional security channel. Any strategic level info offered to us from spies was always forward straight to U'K leadership along with the name of the source. This was our understanding of our relationship until U'K pilots were bowling CVA POSes and acting on real-time intel garnered from our teamspeak or ventrillo.

Play the game how you want, of course, but at that point we were clearly beyond the typical decorum from days of yore. Aralis was under no obligation to share the info he had in the way things had been done in the past.

Originally by: Kazzzi
Originally by: Garreck

CVA's reaction to this will likely be more or less in accordance with the new standards of "play to win so long as it ain't against the EULA


Whatever your rationale, awesome, no holds barred, we're looking forward to it. See you in space.


I wasn't exactly clear in my statement. Our standards remain unchanged as regards various legal-but-questionably-ethical issues oft cried about in CAOD ("metagaming" is the usually misapplied term). We don't engage in it. That is for our own satisfaction. The change I refer to is in previously unspoken obligation by CVA leadership to U'K leadership in regards to spies targetting U'K.

All that said...well, the message has been clear from U'K's end for a little while now, Kazzzi. The irony is U'K didn't need to play "dirty" to beat us in Provi, and if certain standards had been honored, this whole situation may've been called out by Aralis per previous instances if we felt that standard was still mutual.


Love how you paired up with We FORM Voltron and Hydra.

Ohh Yeah
Minmatar
SniggWaffe
Posted - 2010.07.27 05:13:00 - [341]
 

Originally by: Ae0lian
Originally by: Tarac Nor
Who said i was leaving eve, what gave you guys that idea????


even if you change accounts, people like you brag, and people that hear talk. I hope you enjoy rookie ships, cuz that about all your ever gonna fly once this is all settled


"comedy gold" ~ Fmerc

Traideia
Gallente
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2010.07.27 05:26:00 - [342]
 

Originally by: Ae0lian
Originally by: Tarac Nor
Who said i was leaving eve, what gave you guys that idea????


even if you change accounts, people like you brag, and people that hear talk. I hope you enjoy rookie ships, cuz that about all your ever gonna fly once this is all settled


lulz

Run Tarac.. RUUUN

Tarac Nor
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2010.07.27 05:58:00 - [343]
 

Originally by: Traideia


lulz

Run Tarac.. RUUUN


Why run when i can dock lulz.

So apparently there are two frames of mind. Ive got a week of fame and people are gonna forget me, the other frame is that people are gonna hunt me down forever and im never ever ever gonna be able to play again. Come on people which is it gonna be??? Laughing

FOEHAMMER006
Caldari
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.07.27 05:58:00 - [344]
 

This thread stopped producing lulz :c

Suitonia
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2010.07.27 06:13:00 - [345]
 

Originally by: Ae0lian


Love how you paired up with We FORM Voltron and Hydra.


Heaven forbid they work with roaming alliances for mutually beneficial goals! It's not fair that CVA is allowed to work with different alliances that want to PVP in the area against the status quo and dominant sovereign holders, and our coalition! Oh god I hate PvP! I mean we still have them outnumbered by about 3 to 1 in average fleet numbers, and we could probably batphone in more than that, and we have way more capitals than them, and better circumstances to field them, but ****! I want to run anomalies! It's not fun when we aren't total helldeath blobbing!!

Butter Dog
Gallente
The Monocled Elite
Posted - 2010.07.27 06:23:00 - [346]
 

Edited by: Butter Dog on 27/07/2010 06:22:49
Please save me from your T1 arty machs :(

ps - tarac, you will probably have to sell the account and buy another discreetly, if you want meaningful roles in any corp again... although you may not want that, which is fine

Ae0lian
Caldari
Militaris Industries
Damu'Khonde
Posted - 2010.07.27 06:27:00 - [347]
 

Edited by: Ae0lian on 27/07/2010 06:28:31
Originally by: Suitonia
Originally by: Ae0lian


Love how you paired up with We FORM Voltron and Hydra.


Heaven forbid they work with roaming alliances for mutually beneficial goals! It's not fair that CVA is allowed to work with different alliances that want to PVP in the area against the status quo and dominant sovereign holders, and our coalition! Oh god I hate PvP! I mean we still have them outnumbered by about 3 to 1 in average fleet numbers, and we could probably batphone in more than that, and we have way more capitals than them, and better circumstances to field them, but ****! I want to run anomalies! It's not fun when we aren't total helldeath blobbing!!


Shows what little you know, Arailis said he would never form an alliance with these people, and BAM there he is, getting his rear end handed to him in KBP7 at the same time as they are. scum tends to stick together it would seem.
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since when is scum a bad word?

Suitonia
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2010.07.27 06:36:00 - [348]
 

Originally by: Ae0lian

Shows what little you know, Arailis said he would never form an alliance with these people, and BAM there he is, getting his rear end handed to him in KBP7 at the same time as they are. scum tends to stick together it would seem.



We are working with CVA because it puts us in a position to get lots of fights that we like, and the opportunity to try some new gang formats, and apply our guerilla style of PvP to larger gangs, which is interesting and fun for us. If PvPing makes us 'scum', then you're a carebear.

Kinda ironic how Butter Dog used to be in insurgency, and now hes playing the part of NC blob that destroyed it!

Tizian Enel
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2010.07.27 07:09:00 - [349]
 


Can't say much about the game mechanics, I don't fully understand them.
It's okay to get betrayed, makes for a more interesting game. I've been logging on just to change skill training for a couple months now, this change will probably make me actually start playing again.

Time for my tears:

Originally by: "Tarac Nor"
The ISK was a big motivation, but I can't say it was the only motive... I was getting bored with the alliance. Very few were active in the executor corporation and I suppose in the end I wanted to see how far things could go. I have to stress though, this wasn't meant to be personal.



I'd really have prefered getting betrayed by someone who did it all for the cash. Or for just about any other reason than 'I was bored'. Can't boredom be cured by any other means?

Also, how can a person spend a year in Ushra'Khan and still think what he did won't be considered personal?


Not angry at CVA for this either, they didn't cause it and it is all "legal".

In the future I hope such betrayers, especially in RP circles, create a better lie/story to explain the betrayal, it'll be more entertaining that way. This is just a big disappointment.

Murrior
Amarr
Thundercats
B O R G
Posted - 2010.07.27 07:26:00 - [350]
 

Originally by: Ohh Yeah
Originally by: Mercurial Blood
Originally by: Razzor Death
If everyone sends me 20mill each I will never stop pushing for a Co2 CAOD posting ban.

Will start once I hit 20b


go




... Razzor, no one really cares that much about Co2's posting.

I on the otherhand, am taking donations and once I reach 2.5B I will reveal Garmon's real first name!!!

--
Merc


Everyone already knows his first name is Ramsey. If you send me only 2.0B I will reveal his LAST NAME and a pic of him IRL.


Lies, that's he's last name.

Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.



Antoine Lefevre
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2010.07.27 07:32:00 - [351]
 

Originally by: Ae0lian
Originally by: Tarac Nor
Who said i was leaving eve, what gave you guys that idea????


even if you change accounts, people like you brag, and people that hear talk. I hope you enjoy rookie ships, cuz that about all your ever gonna fly once this is all settled

this

Count MonteCarlo
Minmatar
Genos Occidere
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.07.27 07:39:00 - [352]
 

Originally by: Ae0lian

Shows what little you know, Arailis said he would never form an alliance with these people, and BAM there he is, getting his rear end handed to him in KBP7 at the same time as they are. scum tends to stick together it would seem.



YES WE TOTALLY GOT OWNED THERE, YOU SURE SHOWED US

Linkage
Friendly (94) Hostile (181)

41.07% Efficiency (ISK)

And that's after managing to kill two machs, I have no idea how it looks so well in our favour Laughing



Butter Dog
Gallente
The Monocled Elite
Posted - 2010.07.27 07:40:00 - [353]
 

40% efficiency, how... ~elite pvp~

and congrats on holding the fie... owait Embarassed

Count MonteCarlo
Minmatar
Genos Occidere
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.07.27 07:50:00 - [354]
 

not sure how ~elite pvp~ applies to us

Kazzzi
Amarr
Heathen Legion
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2010.07.27 07:53:00 - [355]
 

Originally by: Garreck

All that said...well, the message has been clear from U'K's end for a little while now, Kazzzi. The irony is U'K didn't need to play "dirty" to beat us in Provi, and if certain standards had been honored, this whole situation may've been called out by Aralis per previous instances if we felt that standard was still mutual.


By playing "dirty", are you referring to where we offered you a temp NIP, and came to the forums by the dozens to give you our best wishes, some of us even offering support when we believed you may have had your alliance disbanded by a spy?

Regardless of it turning out to be hacking, we didn't know it at the time and assumed the worst. If we were such ****ks, why did we overwhelmingly give kind words of support during that bleak time?

I was on Ushra'Khan council during the recent 'age of metagaming' I hear about so much, and what you all accuse us of doesn't match anything I've seen on this end.

You initiated SOV war against an entire nullsec power block. You probably had spies from twenty different alliances in your fleets, and so did we in our fleets. Your allies have pulled tons of shady crap over the years, so stop blaming us for everything that anyone we know has done to you. Seriously, get over it.

U'K waited stoically for years to turn the tables, I'm sure you'll have every opportunity for your revenge too.

Gistatis Tribunus
Minmatar
The Unknown Bar and Pub
Posted - 2010.07.27 08:11:00 - [356]
 

Originally by: Ae0lian
even if you change accounts, people like you brag, and people that hear talk. I hope you enjoy rookie ships, cuz that about all your ever gonna fly once this is all settled


Excuse my lack of knowledge concerning Eve memes, but is this post an indication of 'ground floor' or just 'you mad'?

Shiroi Okami
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2010.07.27 08:20:00 - [357]
 

Originally by: Gistatis Tribunus
Originally by: Ae0lian
even if you change accounts, people like you brag, and people that hear talk. I hope you enjoy rookie ships, cuz that about all your ever gonna fly once this is all settled


Excuse my lack of knowledge concerning Eve memes, but is this post an indication of 'ground floor' or just 'you mad'?


The latter

Suitonia
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2010.07.27 08:30:00 - [358]
 

Originally by: Butter Dog
40% efficiency, how... ~elite pvp~

and congrats on holding the fie... owait Embarassed


You barely broke even in efficiency against a fleet you had more than 2:1 odds against, and had almost more battleships than our entire fleet consisted of pilots. I mean sure it's not exactly a 'win' for us, so, Congratulations on winning the engagement and holding the field, I don't see how you can even remotely spin this as "kicking our ass" though, which is what the guy who Count MonteCarlo quoted, said. All facts considered.

I also don't know why you would make a post smacking about how one of our Machariel pilots has t1 guns, when you have Triple CCC, Triple Cap Recharge, PDU Megabeam Abaddons on the field, 7 gun t1 megabeam Apoc, Cap Recharger Geddon, bringing my ratting fit to PvP Dominix, 6 gun cap recharger megathron, bringing my ratting raven, not 1 not 2 but 3 manticores with incorrect damage type missiles and no replacement. In your fleets.

Johan Moisander
Caldari
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2010.07.27 09:40:00 - [359]
 

yup this thread isn't very funny anymore, mainly due to the fact that hydra seems to be quiteVERY bad at posting.

sry

to put it back on track, butter dog, tell us again how you first felt when you realized ushrakhan decided their days of being SC pets were over, kicked you and decided to switch sides to hydra powerbloc?

Nexus Kinnon
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2010.07.27 10:42:00 - [360]
 

butter dog is gay lol


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