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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
Posted - 2004.12.19 23:26:00 - [1]
 

I can rarely manage to reach the bonus, which gets to be infuriating at times. Even a 50% duration increase would do, thx kindly.

Arthur Guinness
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
Posted - 2004.12.20 07:22:00 - [2]
 

Why should you be able to solo those mission in the bonus time?
Isn't it enough that you can solo most of them.......

Encarnus
Out-of-Space
G.U.A.R.D.
Posted - 2004.12.20 07:43:00 - [3]
 

tell me which level 4 mission isn't solo playable @ the moment? had no one so far tbhShocked

Garia666
Amarr
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
Xenon-Empire
Posted - 2004.12.20 07:47:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Encarnus
tell me which level 4 mission isn't solo playable @ the moment? had no one so far tbhShocked


Can you email me your setup please :)

Arthur Guinness
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
Posted - 2004.12.20 08:06:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Encarnus
tell me which level 4 mission isn't solo playable @ the moment? had no one so far tbhShocked


That you can solo them does not mean they're not meant as a group effort.
Been said so many times... why can't you just finally accept it.

Asking for mission changes based on the fact that you have problem with them while soloing is pointless.

NoNamium
Posted - 2004.12.20 08:16:00 - [6]
 

if these missions are meant to be grouped, why can't they be accepted as a group?
getting faction standing/corp standing/agent standing/LP and rewards should be done shared!

oh, and I'd like to hear any good setups for a raven, as I want to solo some myself Cool

Arthur Guinness
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
Posted - 2004.12.20 08:22:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: NoNamium
if these missions are meant to be grouped, why can't they be accepted as a group?
getting faction standing/corp standing/agent standing/LP and rewards should be done shared!


Simple, because the devs did not have the time to implement that or there were technical problems or whatever.
Even if not fully implemented like that, the base idea of these missions is to do them in a group.

Originally by: NoNamium

oh, and I'd like to hear any good setups for a raven, as I want to solo some myself Cool

I'd try a shield tank with sieges filled with torps or cruise:
6x siege, 2x 800mm repeating arties
XL c5l +amp, 3x hardener depending on targets, cap recharger
4x pdu II and a ballistic control (preferably named)

Just take out the inties first so you can warp in and out.
I haven't done them in a raven yet, only tried some with an apoc with 2x siege which worked too. Raven must be even easier as you got 6 launcher to kill the frigs.

Encarnus
Out-of-Space
G.U.A.R.D.
Posted - 2004.12.20 09:20:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Garia666
Originally by: Encarnus
tell me which level 4 mission isn't solo playable @ the moment? had no one so far tbhShocked


Can you email me your setup please :)



for deadspace missions (damsel/blood raider) i use a shield tanked raven with cap-booster charges.
for the standard missions i use a sniperthron firing from 130km ;).
tbh i use an alt to bring me on the right distance and to collect the loot;).

Mistress Zhantine
Amarr
Reikoku
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2004.12.20 10:24:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
I can rarely manage to reach the bonus, which gets to be infuriating at times. Even a 50% duration increase would do, thx kindly.


i'm with you on this especially the deadspace complexes... i fly an apoc and it takes me 45 mins just to get through all 4 gates WITHOUT fighting anyone!! When you only move at 137 m/s it takes a hell of a long time to get anywhere.
If i fit an AB
a) i gimp my setup
b) i still only move at about 350 m/s so i'd still be no where near getting there in time.

at the moment it isnt that frustrating as most of the bonus rewards have been a few hundred thou isk or something equally small... if the reward was something decent i'm sure i'd be a bit more ****ed about it... and yes i have been doing it in groups at times for the harder ones but it doesnt mean that i really get to the gates any quicker.

Chrome Born
Posted - 2004.12.20 11:39:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Arthur Guinness
Originally by: Encarnus
tell me which level 4 mission isn't solo playable @ the moment? had no one so far tbhShocked


That you can solo them does not mean they're not meant as a group effort.
Been said so many times... why can't you just finally accept it.

Asking for mission changes based on the fact that you have problem with them while soloing is pointless.


I have done these missions both solo and with friends, its great fun with a group but if you can solo em yes you should get the bonus too, increasing the bonus timer hurts no-one only helps people that either dont want to group, or dont have friends on 24/7 to help.

Chrome Born.

Ranger 1
Amarr
Ranger Corp
Posted - 2004.12.20 12:03:00 - [11]
 

Hmmm, I respectfully disagree. The bonus timer does in fact encourage group play on the level 4 missions... even if you are a Raven pilot. Wink

Levin Cavil
Applied Eugenics
Posted - 2004.12.20 12:07:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
I can rarely manage to reach the bonus, which gets to be infuriating at times. Even a 50% duration increase would do, thx kindly.


Try not sucking at eve.

ockackies
Posted - 2004.12.20 14:21:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: NoNamium

oh, and I'd like to hear any good setups for a raven, as I want to solo some myself [8

I'd try a shield tank with sieges filled with torps or cruise:
6x siege, 2x 800mm repeating arties
XL c5l +amp, 3x hardener depending on targets, cap recharger
4x pdu II and a ballistic control (preferably named)

Just take out the inties first so you can warp in and out.
I haven't done them in a raven yet, only tried some with an apoc with 2x siege which worked too. Raven must be even easier as you got 6 launcher to kill the frigs.



Perisonnaly for missions i like having 2* nosferatus on seeing as the npcs like to get up close and personnal, it makes shield tanking much more sustainable.

Shirei
Minmatar
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2004.12.20 17:06:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Shirei on 20/12/2004 17:10:03
Edited by: Shirei on 20/12/2004 17:07:04
Originally by: Encarnus
tell me which level 4 mission isn't solo playable @ the moment? had no one so far tbhShocked

Unless they were nerfed with the last patch...

Silence the Informant
You have to tank loads of drones initially, which is ok in a Raven.. but then you have to kill a Supreme Drone Parasite, which can easily tank the damage output of a tanked Raven.. Might be possible to solo, if you warp back to station to re-fit a few times halfway in the mission (very annoying due to dead-space travel times)

Pirate Extravaganza
Some of the spawns are very tough for a single Raven.. So you WILL have to warp out. If you really want to solo it, I guess you could probably do it, if you warp out once or twice, but that means going an extra 100-150k through dead-space each time, which is hella annoying and wastes a lot of time.

Shirei
Minmatar
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2004.12.20 17:12:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Levin Cavil
Try not sucking at eve.

Try doing the pirate extravaganza lvl 4 mission (5-room dead-space complex) in the 40 minutes you have for the bonus. Razz

Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
Posted - 2004.12.20 22:05:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Levin Cavil
Try not sucking at eve.


Um. Blow me.

Na'Axin
Naxbar
Posted - 2004.12.21 01:11:00 - [17]
 

lol, try Pirate Slaughter lvl 4 within an hour :P

please do use a group and tell me if you manage :)

Garia666
Amarr
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
Xenon-Empire
Posted - 2004.12.21 07:16:00 - [18]
 

Cant people stay on topic please?

Shirei
Minmatar
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2004.12.21 11:08:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Na'Axin
lol, try Pirate Slaughter lvl 4 within an hour :P

please do use a group and tell me if you manage :)

That mission would actually be possible in an hour in a group. Razz

Just use a frig, warp to all BMs to spawn all the groups, then split up into 2-3 groups of 1-2 people each and give each group 3-4 BMs. Wink

Ricdic
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2004.12.21 17:29:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Shirei
Originally by: Na'Axin
lol, try Pirate Slaughter lvl 4 within an hour :P

please do use a group and tell me if you manage :)

That mission would actually be possible in an hour in a group. Razz

Just use a frig, warp to all BMs to spawn all the groups, then split up into 2-3 groups of 1-2 people each and give each group 3-4 BMs. Wink




To my knowledge bookmarks are useless in deadspace. And i gotta partially agree. Most missions CAN be done within the mission bonus time, but some that cannot, grouped or not, include :
1) All deadspace missions
2) Most multiple location missions
3) The Convoy mission

If you had 200 in ur gang, doing a deadspace lev4 mission, there is no way you could complete it in the 45 minutes allowed. I can tell that the people sayin lev4 should be done in groups, probly only say that because THEY cant solo them.

Also shirei, i have tried and it seems that mission bookmarks cannot be copied or moved at all. not to mention the npc's wont show up until the mission runner arrives, and they will warp out soon after the mission runner leaves

Egoblast
Caldari
Icarus' Wings
Z.E.R.G
Posted - 2004.12.21 17:38:00 - [21]
 

Ive not done a Lvl 4 since the patch, can u now warp at the distance spcified, or do you still warp in at 0m to the beacon?

Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
Posted - 2004.12.21 20:53:00 - [22]
 

Woo, just managed to solo Mordu's Headhunters within the bonus time limit. That makes my day.

Fire Hawk
Destructive Influence
IT Alliance
Posted - 2004.12.21 23:53:00 - [23]
 

Done 6 L4 missions (declined 2 hard ones) with a megathron Shocked

Well my first try was a complete failure but after a tweaking (2 named rep + armor tanking) i managed most of the scenario's. I must admin that i needed to warp out sometimes in the first warp in.

Doable but long Confused
Switched to raven, missile boat + armor tanking setup Cool

PS : Don't forget that ppl can do them solo and others cant do it even with the same setup, in those kind of fights, skills play their role Wink

Ruffio Sepico
Minmatar
Hidden Agenda
Deep Space Engineering
Posted - 2004.12.22 00:02:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
I can rarely manage to reach the bonus, which gets to be infuriating at times. Even a 50% duration increase would do, thx kindly.


If you solo the missions, and still demand the bonus, thats just shameless.
Get some friends together and do the level 4 missions faster, get the bonus's, and do more missions within same amount of time you would on your own.

I would like to see some extended bonus time on some of the level 3 missions though.


Lilan Kahn
Amarr
The Littlest Hobos
En Garde
Posted - 2004.12.22 01:24:00 - [25]
 

i think timer is fine i have 80% bonus pay out an i solo them kthx


 

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