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Der Valkirie
Posted - 2010.07.21 19:55:00 - [1]
 

Is it just me or do the changes to insurance payouts in Tyrannis suck. I recently lost a 20M isk stealth bomber, uner the old system I would have gotten 50% which while still a big loss at least it helped to replace. Now I got 800,000 ISK based on some crazy formula. I have been mainly running missions - and yes sometimes I mess up - but had been thinking about doing some PVP. Well to h*ll with that I justing to continue mission running until my current membership runs out then something else online to play.

Ghaylenty
Posted - 2010.07.21 19:57:00 - [2]
 

insurance has been stupid for a long time. theres no real way to balance it because the idea itself is half-****ed and favored towards suicide gankers from the start, therefore any attempt at really fixing it will result in suicide gankers getting rich, or people buying hundreds of ships just to get insurance payouts.

Anthal
The Warp Squad
Deadly Unknown
Posted - 2010.07.21 20:05:00 - [3]
 

I would be very surprised if you got 10m back from a Stealth Bomber loss before the last expansion. T2 insurance was awful before Tyrannis, and is slightly less awful now. It is, and was, one of the big drawbacks to flying T2 ships in PVP.

Suboran
Gallente
Best Path Inc.
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2010.07.21 20:06:00 - [4]
 

look on the bright side, you can now pick up a dominix for only 41 million

Taedrin
Gallente
Kushan Industrial
Posted - 2010.07.21 20:12:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Taedrin on 21/07/2010 20:13:42
Originally by: Suboran
look on the bright side, you can now pick up a dominix for only 41 million


Really?

/me logs on to check dominix prices...

EDIT: LMAO, he's right! I wonder if it's possible to break even on ship production now Laughing

Hari Markkus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2010.07.21 20:22:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Taedrin
I wonder if it's possible to break even on ship production now Laughing

Of course, because as everyone knows, all the minerals you mine yourself are absolutely and totally free.

Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation
RONA Directorate
Posted - 2010.07.21 20:22:00 - [7]
 

lol op. you made me laugh today.

I fly bombers all the time and i have never gotton 50% pay out of the value. And this was way back when bombers were only 9 million.

Lupalis Longtail
Posted - 2010.07.21 20:29:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Lupalis Longtail on 21/07/2010 20:29:24
Tech 2 always payed out tech 1 value.
Also, can I haz your stuffz?

Catherine Frasier
Posted - 2010.07.21 20:33:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Der Valkirie
Is it just me
Yep.

Celestine Santora
Posted - 2010.07.21 20:45:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Lupalis Longtail
can I haz your stuffz?

Gekko N
Posted - 2010.07.21 20:58:00 - [11]
 

OP, I think that the best thing for you to do would be to continue to mission until a few days before your subscription runs out. At that point, collect up all your in game items, ships etc and contract it all to Gekko N.

Once you have done that, send the remaining contents of your ISK wallet to Gekko N, as you wont be needing your stuff anymore.

Der Valkirie
Posted - 2010.07.21 21:20:00 - [12]
 

Gekko N, Do not worry I will keep that in mind Razz

Nobzy
Posted - 2010.07.21 21:25:00 - [13]
 

Relax man, it's all just a big misunderstanding.

You have never gotten 10 mil insurance on a 20 million ship. Not even before the changes, or even when t2 ships came out.

So chill, everything's cool.

Intense Thinker
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.07.21 21:31:00 - [14]
 

Blame the suicide gank insurance whiners Razz

Ninetails o'Cat
League of Super Evil
Posted - 2010.07.21 21:36:00 - [15]
 

This is terrible, I mean it's not as if stealth bombers are Tech 2 ships, and even if they were (a ludicrous suggestion, I'm sure) Tech 2 ships have brilliant insurance payouts!
Rolling Eyes

Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network
Dignitas.
Posted - 2010.07.21 21:48:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Dan O''Connor on 21/07/2010 21:49:47
Originally by: Der Valkirie
Is it just me or do the changes to insurance payouts in Tyrannis suck. I recently lost a 20M isk stealth bomber, uner the old system I would have gotten 50% which while still a big loss at least it helped to replace. Now I got 800,000 ISK based on some crazy formula. I have been mainly running missions - and yes sometimes I mess up - but had been thinking about doing some PVP. Well to h*ll with that I justing to continue mission running until my current membership runs out then something else online to play.



And this, ladies and gentlemen, is yet another clueless non-devblog-reader. For our next exhibit to your right we have...

Dario Wall
Posted - 2010.07.21 22:27:00 - [17]
 

People actually lose ships often enough to need insurance? Shocked

JC Anderson
Caldari
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2010.07.21 23:35:00 - [18]
 

Just out of curiosity.... Why are you running missions in a stealth bomber?

And I think the old payout was around 3mil with plat insurance. Better than it is now but still nowhere near enough to cover a loss. It's simply the way it is with t2 ships. :)

Ezurion
Posted - 2010.07.22 00:31:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Ghaylenty
insurance has been stupid for a long time. theres no real way to balance it because the idea itself is half-****ed and favored towards suicide gankers from the start, therefore any attempt at really fixing it will result in suicide gankers getting rich, or people buying hundreds of ships just to get insurance payouts.


Most of which would be solved if insurance payouts were no longer given out for ships destroyed by Concord, or if the owner of the ship self destructed/destroyed their own ship.

JC Anderson
Caldari
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2010.07.22 00:47:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: JC Anderson on 22/07/2010 01:48:58
Originally by: Intense Thinker
Blame the suicide gank insurance whiners Razz


This is a quote from another thread that started just after the insurance change. I'm going to be nice and leave the posters name out of it. ;) Reminded me of your post.

Originally by: XXXXXXXX

I have 92 insured ravens.

I insured them BEFORE the release of Tyrannis.
I thought subscribing to an insurance was a contract ?
You don't change a contract.
I just lost a raven to check if I get paid back for the amount that was specified when I did this insurance contract.

I didn't get the 108.75m I was meant to get for this loss, I ONLY got 70.8m.
I paid 32.62m for each insured raven.

I just lost (108.75-70.8)*92m.
I just lost... 3.49b.

Now CCP explain to my family why I killed myself.

IB4 can I get your stuff.

Seriously, why did you change the payback of already PAID insurances ? I was expecting everything but this.

Originally by: Iced Ya

Oh pls stop ...............I need air.................I cant stop laughing.............Read..............Patch ....... nodes!!!!.............LMAO



Originally by: ChaeDoc II

You expect to lose all 92 Ravens within 12 weeks?


Should probably stop flying Ravens

Issaries Valran
Caldari
Posted - 2010.07.22 01:23:00 - [21]
 

Personally I feel that CCP should just remove insurance all together. It would solve all the problems with insurance.

And all those people that will complain about not being able to afford to fly certain ships with out insurance need to look back at one of the first rules of, flying ships in EvE.

Don't fly what you can't afford to lose.

el Sabor
Posted - 2010.07.22 01:44:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Der Valkirie
I recently lost a 20M isk stealth bomber, uner the old system I would have gotten 50% which while still a big loss at least it helped to replace.


...really?

Bellum Eternus
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2010.07.22 02:04:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Der Valkirie
Is it just me or do the changes to insurance payouts in Tyrannis suck. I recently lost a 20M isk stealth bomber, uner the old system I would have gotten 50% which while still a big loss at least it helped to replace. Now I got 800,000 ISK based on some crazy formula. I have been mainly running missions - and yes sometimes I mess up - but had been thinking about doing some PVP. Well to h*ll with that I justing to continue mission running until my current membership runs out then something else online to play.


Proving one again that carebears are dumb as ****. This is incorrect on so many different levels, it's not even worth pointing them all out.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2010.07.22 02:47:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Der Valkirie
uner the old system I would have gotten 50%

no

Killstealing
Posted - 2010.07.22 12:53:00 - [25]
 

r00l 0n3

Pax Mentor
Posted - 2010.07.22 13:11:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: JC Anderson
... stuff....


Loool .. I must read the thread - link please.
That made my boring day a bit brighter.

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2010.07.22 13:36:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Der Valkirie
Is it just me or do the changes to insurance payouts in Tyrannis suck. I recently lost a 20M isk stealth bomber, uner the old system I would have gotten 50%...


No you wouldn't. You'd have gotten slightly more than you would have for a tier 3 frigate.

Dr Fighter
Posted - 2010.07.22 13:40:00 - [28]
 

ccp shouldnt have touched super capital ship basic insurance payout (since theres no way to upgrade it anyway)

loosing 15 bil and getting 500-1bil back for it is a joke and forces all the small to medium corps/allinces to have 100 carriers bfore they get just a few supers.

RaTTuS
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement
Posted - 2010.07.22 13:41:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Pax Mentor
Originally by: JC Anderson
... stuff....


Loool .. I must read the thread - link please.
That made my boring day a bit brighter.

here

Rellik B00n
Posted - 2010.07.22 13:46:00 - [30]
 

What is this insurance you speak of?


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