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Rabid Longcat
The Scope
Posted - 2010.07.19 21:20:00 - [1]
 

Halp!

I have skills for both but how to actually fly them? I am too afraid to join any roaming gangs with those and im afraid that I just fail horribly. :(

I think that zealot would be better for me but would the vaga be more noob friendly?


Ansol
Posted - 2010.07.19 21:42:00 - [2]
 

Do what I do: Lie your way through it.

ZiggyXX
Posted - 2010.07.19 21:49:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: ZiggyXX on 19/07/2010 21:50:41



Try this:

[Vagabond]

Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Warp Disruptor II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive

220mm Vulcan Autocannon II
220mm Vulcan Autocannon II
220mm Vulcan Autocannon II
220mm Vulcan Autocannon II
220mm Vulcan Autocannon II
Medium 'Gremlin' Power Core Disruptor I


Medium Polycarbon Engine housing I
Medium Polycarbon Engine housing I


Warrior II x 5

Find victim, target, then hit MWD and drop into orbit around him/her at about 18-20 kilometers, engage Warp Disruptor/guns and--voila! If all went well--you'll still be in your Vaga and he/she will be in a pod. ;)

Drake Neutrino
Posted - 2010.07.19 22:47:00 - [4]
 

Do what everyone who asks a question on this forum is told: fly something cheaper first.

If you've never flown a HAC before, taking one out will probably result in it going poof very quickly. To practice how to fly a vagabond you can use a stabber or a shield tanked rupture. The omen would be cheapo equivalent of a zealot but generally isn't very good.

To take it back to basics, you learn the most about how to fly by flying t1 frigs (rifters are the best for that). Nothing is sadder to see than a new player to waste the potential of a HAC but it takes many losses to learn. Its just that you're better off taking those losses in t1 ships until you don't need to ask how to fly them because you'll know for yourself through experience.

Demolishar
Posted - 2010.07.20 00:25:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Drake Neutrino

To take it back to basics, you learn the most about how to fly by flying t1 frigs (rifters are the best for that). Nothing is sadder to see than a new player to waste the potential of a HAC but it takes many losses to learn. Its just that you're better off taking those losses in t1 ships until you don't need to ask how to fly them because you'll know for yourself through experience.


The thing about HACs is so long as you know to be a total coward and not engage anything you don't have 110% chance of killing, you won't lose the ship. The magic of HACs is that YOU can force whether an engagement happens or not, and if you just choose "NOT" in a situation that is AT ALL risky, you'll be fine. Don't play with fire, and you won't get burned, basically. As soon as you get greedy and start taking people on where you don't have that 110% chance of victory, you'll run the risk of dying.

Jared D'Uroth
Minmatar
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.07.20 00:31:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Drake Neutrino
use a stabber

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Canaloney Soup
Posted - 2010.07.20 00:46:00 - [7]
 

Try both out on the test server to get used to em

Whiskeydod
Posted - 2010.07.20 00:56:00 - [8]
 

For the Zealot, I would suggest a sniper fit. Allows you to still contribute to the fight while also being able to avoid some of the heat.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/37279-Snipe-Zealot.html

This is what I fly besides the rigs. I got rigs that increase falloff, but that is personal preference. As long as you stay to this general fit you will be fine.

captain foivos
Posted - 2010.07.20 01:27:00 - [9]
 

USE BOOST TO GET THROUGH

Vaga's more noob friendly.

Emperor Ryan
Amarr
The Illuminatii
Mildly Intoxicated
Posted - 2010.07.20 11:14:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Emperor Ryan on 20/07/2010 11:14:46
There's only one way to go about,


first you start in a stabber, it cost 3million, does half the dps and gets half the range and EHP of a vaga, however same speed.

Learn how to kite how to fight in fall off, and most important, Dictate range, If the fight flips and it looks like your going to die, You can also Overload, and Burn away.

Once Stabber is mastered you go for Vaga, After 500+ kills in a vaga (takes like... what 2 months?) Go for a cynabal.


Stabber fit:
x4220's Med neut small nos
X1LSE (Or tracking disruptor) x1 24k point, x1 mwd
x1 Tracking Enhancer, x1 Nano, x1 Gyro

Extender rigs

Vaga is the same just more slots

220's Med/small neut - Salvager ( normlay i never need my nuet so instead i make a good amount of cash from t2 salvage)

x2 LSE x1 24km point x1 mwd

The lows are tricky, some fit damage controls etc the trick here is speed and aglitty,

X2 Tracking Enhancer x2 Gyro x1 nano , You can drop a gyro or TE for another nano, But i dont like it myself.

ecm drones or warriors

Have RF EMP PP Fusion, and Barrge in cargo, and if you're really worried about frigs use that tracking bonus ammo


Cynabal

425 x4 faction med Neut
x2 LSE x1 Invul x1 30k point x1 faction mwd (can fit a tracking disruptor too)

x2 TE x2 Gyro x1 nano,

x5 valks, or x5 ecm and x5 Warrs



And the Stabber fleet, IS just a tracking god, put 180's or 220's mwd orbit a frigate and shoot, and you'll track perfectly, but its a but of a ship on it's own could be an improved stabber, but better off with a vaga



Gladys Pank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
Posted - 2010.07.20 11:27:00 - [11]
 

Start in a Rupture, not a Stabber FFS.

Emperor Ryan
Amarr
The Illuminatii
Mildly Intoxicated
Posted - 2010.07.20 11:45:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Gladys Pank
Start in a Rupture, not a Stabber FFS.


Flying a rupture is totally diffrent, You dont orbit at 15k and shoot barrage generally in a rupture. Start in a stabber if your going vaga, since its the exact same fighting style no differnces whatsoever

Fumitsugu
Posted - 2010.07.20 12:48:00 - [13]
 

[Rupture, BetterThanAStabber]
Damage Control II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Warp Disruptor II
Large Shield Extender II

425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
Small Energy Neutralizer II
Small Energy Neutralizer II

Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Medium Projectile Burst Aerator I
Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing I


Warrior II x5

Gladys Pank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
Posted - 2010.07.20 14:30:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Emperor Ryan
Originally by: Gladys Pank
Start in a Rupture, not a Stabber FFS.


Flying a rupture is totally diffrent, You dont orbit at 15k and shoot barrage generally in a rupture. Start in a stabber if your going vaga, since its the exact same fighting style no differnces whatsoever


NO because...

Originally by: Fumitsugu
[Rupture, BetterThanAStabber]
Damage Control II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Warp Disruptor II
Large Shield Extender II

425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
Small Energy Neutralizer II
Small Energy Neutralizer II

Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Medium Projectile Burst Aerator I
Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing I


Warrior II x5



This. Infinitely better and more vaga like than a Stabber.


 

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