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wizard87
Posted - 2010.07.15 13:49:00 - [1]
 

http://fwstats.eve-ic.net/

Last Generated at 1:05pm on 12th October 2009

Syekuda
Hell's Revenge
Posted - 2010.07.15 14:26:00 - [2]
 

1. Thats way too old for stats.
2. that doesn't tell me when CCP gave a toss
3. They don't give a toss, they are postponing the FW fixes and tweaks for the moment cause some idiots whinned about walking in station and made a emo rage quit thread about it.

Gallactica
Gallente
Shadows Of The Federation
Drunk 'n' Disorderly
Posted - 2010.07.15 14:38:00 - [3]
 

So, looks like we will just have to live with killing the **** out of each other for a while then Twisted Evil

Rigel Vex
Posted - 2010.07.15 15:07:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Gallactica
So, looks like we will just have to live with killing the **** out of each other for a while then Twisted Evil


I'm Game :P

Hidden Snake
Caldari
Inglorious-Basterds
Posted - 2010.07.15 15:08:00 - [5]
 

well some push is under way ...


.... and IBS might come with some act of high sec terrorism to help CCP understand they should care.

Gallactica
Gallente
Shadows Of The Federation
Drunk 'n' Disorderly
Posted - 2010.07.15 15:22:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Hidden Snake
well some push is under way ...


.... and IBS might come with some act of high sec terrorism to help CCP understand they should care.


You do ours, we'll do yours mate.

CCP Fallout

Posted - 2010.07.15 16:54:00 - [7]
 

That is not an official CCP site, but is run by volunteers. FYI.

wizard87
Posted - 2010.07.15 17:32:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: CCP Fallout
That is not an official CCP site, but is run by volunteers. FYI.


So when and why did the "official" volunteers give up?

kahhhhhnn
Lovey dovey hug club
Posted - 2010.07.15 17:59:00 - [9]
 

I've seen that site before and always wondered how they did the VP stats.

Is there a public VP api?

Andre Vauban
Gallente
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2010.07.15 18:10:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: kahhhhhnn
I've seen that site before and always wondered how they did the VP stats.

Is there a public VP api?


http://api.eve-online.com/eve/FacWarTopStats.xml.aspx

Aiden Vorlan
Caldari
Posted - 2010.07.15 18:20:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Hidden Snake
well some push is under way ...


.... and IBS might come with some act of high sec terrorism to help CCP understand they should care.


I'm curious as to why an I.BS gang of about fifteen decided to run from a Hurricane/Tristan duo (I was the Tristan) as we chased you guys across Aeschee and Lisbaetanne. There was a lot of smack talk from your pilots ("WE CAN KILL YOU LOL") but, sadly, not a lot of backing it up.

Sneaky Noob
KA POW POW Inc
Posted - 2010.07.15 18:24:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Aiden Vorlan
Originally by: Hidden Snake
well some push is under way ...


.... and IBS might come with some act of high sec terrorism to help CCP understand they should care.


I'm curious as to why an I.BS gang of about fifteen decided to run from a Hurricane/Tristan duo (I was the Tristan) as we chased you guys across Aeschee and Lisbaetanne. There was a lot of smack talk from your pilots ("WE CAN KILL YOU LOL") but, sadly, not a lot of backing it up.


don't derail the thread, we actually got someone from CCP to post something about FW.

OP, I salute you o7

Hidden Snake
Caldari
Inglorious-Basterds
Posted - 2010.07.15 18:29:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Hidden Snake on 15/07/2010 18:30:09
Edited by: Hidden Snake on 15/07/2010 18:28:57
Originally by: Aiden Vorlan
Originally by: Hidden Snake
well some push is under way ...


.... and IBS might come with some act of high sec terrorism to help CCP understand they should care.


I'm curious as to why an I.BS gang of about fifteen decided to run from a Hurricane/Tristan duo (I was the Tristan) as we chased you guys across Aeschee and Lisbaetanne. There was a lot of smack talk from your pilots ("WE CAN KILL YOU LOL") but, sadly, not a lot of backing it up.
we do not shoot what is not flashy .... and if hydra recruits people like u ...omg they have to be desperate


to the topic ... well 80 people camping major caldari noob systems in a NOOBAGEDON .... sounds very tempting

Aiden Vorlan
Caldari
Posted - 2010.07.15 18:38:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Hidden Snake
Edited by: Hidden Snake on 15/07/2010 18:30:09
Edited by: Hidden Snake on 15/07/2010 18:28:57
Originally by: Aiden Vorlan
Originally by: Hidden Snake
well some push is under way ...


.... and IBS might come with some act of high sec terrorism to help CCP understand they should care.


I'm curious as to why an I.BS gang of about fifteen decided to run from a Hurricane/Tristan duo (I was the Tristan) as we chased you guys across Aeschee and Lisbaetanne. There was a lot of smack talk from your pilots ("WE CAN KILL YOU LOL") but, sadly, not a lot of backing it up.
we do not shoot what is not flashy .... and if hydra recruits people like u ...omg they have to be desperate


to the topic ... well 80 people camping major caldari noob systems in a NOOBAGEDON .... sounds very tempting



We offered to take the GCC to get them to fight. Very, very disconcerting that you guys decided to run from us. I mean, according to you, I'm a bad PvPer. So, why run from me?

Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
Posted - 2010.07.15 18:49:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Hirana Yoshida on 15/07/2010 18:49:15
Extend the FW wardecs to encompass ALL the NPC corps of the immediate enemy (Cald/Gall, Amarr/Matar).
Makes RP sense in that militia vs. militia is currently more like an urban gang-turf-war than an actual war as it should be .. no war has ever been won by not going after civilians (accidentally of course Smile)!
Side bonus of nudging-at-gunpoint people to join or create player corporations definitively solving the problem that CCP's taxation utterly failed to.

PS: Revamp the occupancy system already!

Millie Clode
Amarr
Insert Cool Name Here
Posted - 2010.07.15 19:11:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Hirana Yoshida
Edited by: Hirana Yoshida on 15/07/2010 18:49:15
Extend the FW wardecs to encompass ALL the NPC corps of the immediate enemy (Cald/Gall, Amarr/Matar).
Makes RP sense in that militia vs. militia is currently more like an urban gang-turf-war than an actual war as it should be .. no war has ever been won by not going after civilians (accidentally of course Smile)!
Side bonus of nudging-at-gunpoint people to join or create player corporations definitively solving the problem that CCP's taxation utterly failed to.

PS: Revamp the occupancy system already!


With the militias just being government sponsored terrorist organisations rather than proper armies, ganking civilians makes sense. However, terrorists operate outside the law rather than above it. Take your concordokken with dignity like the rest of us, you don't get carte blanche to slaughter huge numbers of rookie corp members without standing loss, that isn't fair :P


X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2010.07.15 19:41:00 - [17]
 


X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2010.07.15 19:48:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: X Gallentius on 15/07/2010 21:32:04

Originally by: Millie Clode

With the militias just being government sponsored terrorist organisations rather than proper armies, ganking civilians makes sense. However, terrorists operate outside the law rather than above it. Take your concordokken with dignity like the rest of us, you don't get carte blanche to slaughter huge numbers of rookie corp members without standing loss, that isn't fair :p



Federation and Republic militia members are already "terrorist outlaws" in Caldari space since the Caldari Navy will attempt to hunt them down. A fair tradeoff IMO. Very Happy



Omenis
Posted - 2010.07.15 23:39:00 - [19]
 

"FW" stands for "Fleet Warfare" right?

That ended with Dominion. Razz

Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
Posted - 2010.07.16 02:13:00 - [20]
 

3 weeks before it was released?

When they saw the promotional videos looked good?

After the massively article was published?

Aurelius Valentius
Amarr
Imperial Academy
Posted - 2010.07.16 03:29:00 - [21]
 

A means of improving FW:

1. Make "War" - intermittant for "Empire" NPC Corps. FW Militias are active always for FW. This would have the effect of intermmitant involvement of ALL members of each Factions NPC corps. It should be declared just as a player WD and be treated the same in all ways - Faction v Faction.

2. Factional Navy should be buffed during these times (in numbers) so as to simulate more aggressive factional deployments.

3. CORCORD is unaffected.

4. Players would have 24H notice to "hide", "dock-up", "Bessy get'ur gun" in prep for the event.

5. Factional Rewards would become avaliable to all factional members so that if they participate they can aquire LPs, Standings, Etc. - just as if in a FW Militia for the time being.

6. Revamp the "Occupancy System"

Just my two ISKies

kahhhhhnn
Lovey dovey hug club
Posted - 2010.07.16 12:50:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Andre Vauban
Originally by: kahhhhhnn
I've seen that site before and always wondered how they did the VP stats.

Is there a public VP api?


http://api.eve-online.com/eve/FacWarTopStats.xml.aspx



Thank your very much.

This will make for great **** measuring contest in militia chat.



Cearain
Caldari
The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
Posted - 2010.07.16 19:08:00 - [23]
 

The apoc 1.5 patch was a very good improvement for fw. I don't think CCP has given up on FW. I do think they are trying to make eve into a total sci fi universe including other things than flying spaceships. Its a big idea and I hope it works out. Its just not going to be popular for people like us who play fw now.

Kel Nissa
Posted - 2010.07.18 18:00:00 - [24]
 

They launched FW unpolished (unfinished). Afterwards there was no visible improvment. (Yes they improved it, but that was nothing relevant.)

Damar Rocarion
Posted - 2010.07.18 18:36:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Kel Nissa
They launched FW unpolished (unfinished). Afterwards there was no visible improvment. (Yes they improved it, but that was nothing relevant.)


Most relevant change was probably changing the plexing mechanism to favour original sovereignty holder, by making sure lots of plexes spawn at every dt to these systems, making it harder to defend. This was perhaps due to hordes of alt plexers PERVS used to maintain occupancy.

Aside from that, only real change to FW was the mission/lp store changes which made at least 50% of the people in militia nothing but mission alts and reduced incentive to go and look for pvp even less. I mean, why spend an hour chasing potential fight when you can farm hundreds of millions of isk at the same time...

Damar Rocarion

Merdaneth
Amarr
Defensores Fidei
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2010.07.18 20:56:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Damar Rocarion
Most relevant change was probably changing the plexing mechanism to favour original sovereignty holder, by making sure lots of plexes spawn at every dt to these systems, making it harder to defend. This was perhaps due to hordes of alt plexers PERVS used to maintain occupancy.


Which, sadly, is another DT favoring mechanism, which kind of sends the message: if you want to compete you need to play right after DT. I don't think that is a good message to send out. It certainly helped me to give up on plexing.

Eelis Kiy
Gallente
Shadows Of The Federation
ShadowWolves.net
Posted - 2010.07.19 07:23:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: Eelis Kiy on 19/07/2010 07:26:34


Come now, we all know CCP gave up on FW on June 11th 2008.


Besides which, the FW stat thing, well isnt that run by the same people who just you know, rewrite and make up all the player news stories Razz


The only good thing they did for FW was the lag fix. Sadly it took a year or so, and by then a ton of people had gotten fed up and left.

Syuveil
Posted - 2010.07.22 11:53:00 - [28]
 

Edited by: Syuveil on 22/07/2010 11:52:53
Originally by: Syekuda
...they are postponing the FW fixes and tweaks for the moment cause some idiots whinned about walking in station and made a emo rage quit thread about it.


maybe we should make an emo rage quit thread of our own then
although i doubt it would change much Neutral

Hidden Snake
Caldari
Inglorious-Basterds
Posted - 2010.07.23 15:05:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Syuveil
Edited by: Syuveil on 22/07/2010 11:52:53
Originally by: Syekuda
...they are postponing the FW fixes and tweaks for the moment cause some idiots whinned about walking in station and made a emo rage quit thread about it.


maybe we should make an emo rage quit thread of our own then
although i doubt it would change much Neutral
protest ceasefire and shoot our own people who will break it?

Bhramin
Shadows Of The Federation
ShadowWolves.net
Posted - 2010.07.23 15:58:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Hidden Snake
Originally by: Syuveil
Edited by: Syuveil on 22/07/2010 11:52:53
Originally by: Syekuda
...they are postponing the FW fixes and tweaks for the moment cause some idiots whinned about walking in station and made a emo rage quit thread about it.


maybe we should make an emo rage quit thread of our own then
although i doubt it would change much Neutral
protest ceasefire and shoot our own people who will break it?


Or all 4 militia join up and we invade 0.0 untill ccp listen to us!


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