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Torrelus Toh'Kon

Posted - 2010.07.19 21:09:00 - [61]

I've been in this game nearly 2 years. I jumped into FW after just a few months, and found it to be great fun, and far too broken. So I left to try other things.

Since then, some things have been improved (combat lag, LP/missions/ISK_sink, etc), but as a whole still not enough to be called 'fixed'. Other things are still as broken as when it all started (plexing, lack of consequences of system occupancy, alliances, etc).

I've been other places in the last year, but FW feels like where I should be... shame to find it still the wooden hut I ran away from so long ago.

FW is 2 years old and still needs to be fixed. Equally WIS has been "on the way" just as long. CCP, you need to hurry up and finish the stuff that is "live" before you deploy the stuff that's "coming".

P.S. That bit of propaganda you did regarding the domainance in the Cal/Gal zone ages ago... get real... that situation was a result of the monumental FW problems, not it "working as intended".

Mongo Edwards
Posted - 2010.07.20 02:56:00 - [62]

Please make it worthwhile for me to do the RP stuff. I use to do the plexes just to farm tags but that got old in a hurry. Now I just shoot people and farm lvl 4's to pay for all the ships that blow up from the former (and dumb mistakes in my SB).

Du'uma Fiisi Integrated Astrometrics
Posted - 2010.07.20 17:35:00 - [63]

FW is overdue for improvements. Incarna can afford to be vaporware for another six months while CCP tries to fix FW.

Posted - 2010.07.20 23:15:00 - [64]

Edited by: RaveNight on 20/07/2010 23:14:50
Originally by: Kaito Kenshin
Edited by: Kaito Kenshin on 17/07/2010 18:28:20
I decided fairly recently that I'm finished with faction war until it is fixed...or at least improved.

This seems to be the only way a faction can win Factional Warfare -- The other team quits.

Stop this madness, CCP.

I once hugged your executives in Iceland! Due me a favor in return :)

Posted - 2010.07.21 03:49:00 - [65]

Posted - 2010.07.21 06:19:00 - [66]

I can't wait for WiS, I'm just as excited to play Dust. Stay the course, CCP!

Captain Dim
Posted - 2010.07.21 08:29:00 - [67]

Edited by: Captain Dim on 21/07/2010 08:29:40
I support it.

Heathen Legion
Posted - 2010.07.22 06:48:00 - [68]

CCP can at least have 2 or 3 of their 200 devs fix minor FW bugs instead of ignoring it altogether.

Do not want new stuffs until old stuffs is not completely borken.

Jandin Kobera
Posted - 2010.07.22 12:23:00 - [69]

FW is currently choking on a number of well documented problems and a general lack of new content. It needs an investment of time and resources.

Kel Nissa
Posted - 2010.07.22 20:21:00 - [70]

hmm clear skies is in my mind ..

FW is beyond fixing

Munition Delivery Services

Posted - 2010.07.22 20:31:00 - [71]

Yes...fix the issues that you already know are there please Wink

ASPIRE Commandos

Posted - 2010.07.26 17:08:00 - [72]

Fix it. this is an mmorpg for a reason

Stalking Mantis
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
Posted - 2010.07.28 11:54:00 - [73]


Enal Angus
Posted - 2010.07.28 19:55:00 - [74]

Edited by: Enal Angus on 28/07/2010 20:13:27
Edited by: Enal Angus on 28/07/2010 20:10:45
Originally by: ThisIsNotMyAlt
vote against.makes no sense to shift their scurm teams and planning around. too much time would be wasted by overhead
Funny when people come here pretending to know stuff and posting strong opinions like this. Are you in marketing? Do you know what any of those words mean?

Scrum is an Agile software process. That means, that unlike the waterfall model, which was used before, it aligns fast. In scrum (and agile in general) you work with small teams, frequent releases of small fixes so that you and the client, together work for a product that meets the clients' needs instead of a go-ahead model where you plan the stuff, then code, package and sell it, then ask the client "didn't you order walking-in-stations?".

You claim an agile process is hard to turn around. It's not.
CCP claims to use scrum, but is still not listening to their clients, the very core of the scrum process.

So there you have it. You don't know what you're talking about.
CCP is a pompous pile of manure that's openly boasting about a software engineering process they apparently aren't even using.

Edit: as for the original topic, I don't give a rats ass. People in big nullsec alliances can't participate. It's just another failed minigame half the clientbase can't even try.

Posted - 2010.08.11 15:06:00 - [75]

Yes CCP, please :)

Ori Blake
Posted - 2010.08.11 15:31:00 - [76]

Edit: as for the original topic, I don't give a rats ass. People in big nullsec alliances can't participate. It's just another failed minigame half the clientbase can't even try.

That's good in my book. FW wont be an intro to PvP if those alliances turn it into capship warfare. It's a little bit of a problem as it is now, with CORIM liking to hot drop caps. Minnies have problems as it is getting fleets when Amarr have the numbers on.

rootimus maximus
Posted - 2010.08.12 02:13:00 - [77]

Originally by: Gordin Brott
Why do we actually need Second Life in space?

From what I've read, it's got nothing to do with what we want, rather that CCP want to make World of Evecraft, where millions of fraggles sign up and boost their income dramatically. My guess is that it will eventually include nice, safe instances where they can PvE their hearts out in absolute safety.

I run L4 missions loads to fund PvP but the thought of being completely safe while doing so is nearly as awful as the thought of having to go to Jita.

Even if every last one of the current playerbase quits, they're happy to take that hit. Not everyone will quit, so they get that extra cash, too.


Posted - 2010.08.28 21:57:00 - [78]

screw walking in stations. fix current eve then work on expansions

Posted - 2010.09.05 09:41:00 - [79]

Edited by: Boneafi on 05/09/2010 09:41:31
signed x..

Hidden Snake

Posted - 2010.09.06 06:54:00 - [80]

in general fix the whole lowsec.

Mr 15sec
Posted - 2010.09.22 16:46:00 - [81]

Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services

Posted - 2010.09.23 05:37:00 - [82]

Edited by: Dr BattleSmith on 23/09/2010 05:45:14

FW was dropped completely the week before launch.

There has not been one single hour of dev time spent on it since.

There are 2 weeks showing on CCPs books as being FW dev, however this was FW players spending
2 weeks of intensive debugging on standings lag in lowsec that effected *ALL* players.

So the players dedicated 2 weeks of their play to logging and debugging for CCP.
When will CCP return the favour?

CCP needs to spend at least the same amount on developing FW as they did on hyping it.

Best content in the game.

Bo Tosh
Posted - 2010.09.23 08:24:00 - [83]

Edited by: Bo Tosh on 23/09/2010 08:25:21
FW before Incarna, fun as it may sound to walk in stations if I want to meet people I'll go offline and head out into RL. Most people in EvE I only want to see through weapons flare as their ship burns which FW gives me far more opportunity to do.

Jayleen Wyld
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
Posted - 2010.10.01 17:23:00 - [84]

Yes, fixing FW would be a good idea.

RC1136 Darman
Posted - 2010.11.23 23:01:00 - [85]

Signed Bumped and delivered.

Har Harrison
Amarrian Retribution

Posted - 2010.11.24 02:56:00 - [86]

Supported - more FW love please

Maz3r Rakum
The Imperial Fedaykin
Posted - 2010.11.24 03:54:00 - [87]


I honestly don't think it would take that much dev time to fix the current situation. Having spent several months in FW and throughly enjoying it, I'm not really sure how to make it better. Though I agree it could use a lot more love.

Posted - 2010.11.24 04:38:00 - [88]

While I'm or less happy with FW as it is (I don't plex and system occupancy doesn't interest me), mainly because I see FW as the easiest way to get constant targets and easy to find fights, there is a lot of room for improvement.
- System sov should be awarded on a kill/death ratio not by plexing.
- System sov should give the sov holder an LP bonus.
- FW kills should give good LP, based on target value and should replace FW missions as the main way to earn LP. That will help in removing an isk faucet in game.

Kabaal S'sylistha
Caldari Provisions

Posted - 2010.11.24 04:57:00 - [89]

Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
Posted - 2010.11.24 07:13:00 - [90]

Noah hates FW, he didn't want it released and doesn't want any work done on it now it is.

One personally opinion is ruining gaming experience for a not insignificant portion of players.

We enjoy FW. We like it. It's our part of the game.
Eve is a sandbox game not this "0.0 is the endgame" garbage.

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