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Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Sanctuary Pact
Posted - 2010.07.10 14:53:00 - [61]
 

Originally by: Helicity Boson
Originally by: Rawrr Baby
As topic says.

Plex is bought with real life money and scamming something that is involving real life money is probithet by law.

Extreme issue is here scamming of plexes and/or lossing them.


If i woud losse plex, i woud ****ing report it to police. I give a flying ****, i want that plex back, it was my money.


incorrect.

what you lost is an in-game item that is inherently the property of CCP.

The police will laugh at you.




This.

Normin Bates
Posted - 2010.07.10 14:57:00 - [62]
 

Yes. Call your CC company and have them reverse the charge.

Shouldn't take CCP too long to deduct 300mil from your ingame acct.

TR4D3SM3N
Posted - 2010.07.10 15:08:00 - [63]
 

Originally by: mandaro
Originally by: TR4D3SM3N
I have no idea about contract law, but by you clicking accept on a contract, you have therefore agreed to the above details. Displaying incorrent or unsound information on a real life contract probably has rules.


ZOMG EVE R RL LIFE NAU?


Read the title, then think...

We are discussing whether ingame issues have any revelance to real-life law. Dire troll is dire.

Jhagiti Tyran
Muppet Ninja's
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
Posted - 2010.07.10 15:09:00 - [64]
 

Originally by: Miss Connolly
Originally by: Caphelo
It's actually a good question. Credit card companies probably would reverse the charge, and it would be up to CCP to challenge it. Would they challenge it over $15? It would probably cost them more than that to do the challenge. The easiest thing for CCP to do in reaction is to delete the PLEX or gametime that came from it.


this is unrealistic. The CC company / bank will only reverse the transaction if you become the victim of a crime. Since ccp correctly delivered you your PLEX the transaction is complete and there are no grounds to reverse the payment. All steps you take after this initial purchase happens within eve and is thus subject to the EULA / ToS (which expressly allow theft and destruction of in-game assets). Thus you'd be the one scamming CCP (by reversing the transaction after taking posession of the goods you purchased) and not the other way around.


Getting a charge back is quite easy and most credit card companies will do it with either a phone call or online request, all you need to state is that there is a dispute with the company involved and they will reverse the charges. The credit card company leaves any further dispute about you owing money or w/e between you and the company that you reversed the changed from and there is no need for anyone to prove delivery of goods or service etc although when substantial amounts are involved they can appeal to their bank and dispute the charge back but in the case of an online subscription related item its difficult for either side to prove the case.

However if a company has to many reversed transactions against it sometimes the credit card providers will impose punitive actions like fines, and it looks bad in any future dispute if a company has a large history of charge backs

Monkey Saturday
Unknown Soldiers
The Spire Collective
Posted - 2010.07.10 15:21:00 - [65]
 

Originally by: Rawrr Baby
As topic says.

Plex is bought with real life money and scamming something that is involving real life money is probithet by law.

Extreme issue is here scamming of plexes and/or lossing them.


If i woud losse plex, i woud ****ing report it to police. I give a flying ****, i want that plex back, it was my money.


I buy my plex with isk i make in game. Am I doing it wrong? Neutral

Doctor Ungabungas
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.07.10 15:26:00 - [66]
 

Originally by: Aqriue


1. Player A spends RL money
2. redeems PLEX, relize they are in wrong station 2 jumps over, load into ship, get scanned, get popped, PLEX are looted by Player B
3. Player A miffed off at CCP's policy calls bank and has charges reversed, Player B gets free month.
Where does CCP even come up with such silly ideas? Shocked


You forgot the part where CCP bans Player A for an inappropriate chargeback. (After sending the credit card company proof of delivery of the goods so they get the chargeback reversed) :shock:





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