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Mark Democratic
Posted - 2010.07.08 04:10:00 - [1]
 

I have been running lvl 4's for a while now, but even with that, Im pretty dissatisfied with the amount of ISK I am able to bring in. Playing for around 4 hours a day, I bring in around 20mil ISK in a Dominix, which is pathetic compared to what other people I've heard are able to rake in. Ive been looking for an alternative profession that might be more profitable.

I am wondering, which is the best for a solo player to make money. Planetary Interaction, T1 manufacturing, t2 manufacturing, t3 manufacturing, trading or mining.

Induc
Amarr
Posted - 2010.07.08 04:16:00 - [2]
 

20m for 4 hours doing L4's sounds a bit low, are you counting the loot and LP too?

You can do PI while running L4's, so that's not really an alternative.
Mining would earn you even less than L4's.

Trading is what would probably earn you the most, but to be very successful doing that you need billions of isk and know what you're doing.

You should probably read Akita T's Beginner's guide to making isk.

SencneS
Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks
Posted - 2010.07.08 04:25:00 - [3]
 

T2 and T3 require a lot of skills. Even good manufacturing requires a little commitment beforehand.. If you're a datacore harvester as well, you could do some simple T2 inventing and production with minimal skill increase.

Planetary Interaction is low skill and low ISK requirement, and can be done once a day. Though don't expect much additional income. I'd recommend it anyway, it's almost passive income, requires little effort and if you believe some people you can make hundreds of millions of ISK a month doing next to nothing.

Mining - Really stay away from it, if you're running Level 4's you're making the most in your time frame.

Trading - Is probably the biggest boost you'll get, but it requires some good understanding of the market, and not just OMG LOOK this was cheap now it's expensive so it's going to go up more.. For 4 hours you can make more then 20mil Station Trading, but you'll be spending your time updating orders etc. Trading can also lose your seat pretty quick with the wrong investment so while it's the easiest to make ISK, it's also easy to lose it.

T1 manufacturing of some popular items used in T2 production or munitions can get you some nice side pocket change. Usually you can install production jobs in week long sets, just make sure your stuff is onsale in Jita before the weekend. However manufactures also require a little trading skills and understanding. So pick your items wisely. I mentioned ammo, because at mission hubs they sell well.

In summery -

T2/3 requires lots of skills, can be MONTHS long before you can do it.

T1 doesn't require much still but a small commitment and you have to be pretty savvy on the demand for that time.

Trading will get you ISK according to your effort, the more you pour into it, the quicker
it'll come in. If you do the buy order, let it fill, sell order that's not much effort and it can take months before you see your stuff move.

Mining - Stay away from it, Level 4's give more ISK for the time frame.

Planetary Interaction - Do it, it's like passive income, little skills, little cost and if you harvest the right stuff, you could be surprised. I recommend doing this with whatever else you want to do as well.

Datacore harvest - Since you can run level 4's you should be able to run up a level 4 agent pretty quick, Get those things harvesting, it's ZERO EFFORT ISK.

Mark Democratic
Posted - 2010.07.08 04:25:00 - [4]
 

No, Im not including the loot and the salvage. Im thinking running lvl 4's without bothering to do that will save me time, time in which I can use to fit more lvl 4's in. I feel the trade off earns me more ISK, but that might be me

Marshiro
Posted - 2010.07.08 04:26:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Marshiro on 08/07/2010 04:30:22
You need to figure out what kind of time frame you can play, and not just your spare time but how not to burn out.

From what I know, missioning is the most flexible. You can run them at any time you want. Mining in theory have roid respawn rate issues, but realistically it doesn't matter, nor does it make much without abc in null + support or mega-multibox/macro setups.

Manufacturing have potentially give good effort/isk ratio with a very good setup (or just a T2 bpo), but benefit from economy of scale and is best done in groups or in large-ish scale, nor can you push your income up if you need a bump. I feel PI is more similar to manufacturing than other things, but I haven't dived into it.

Trading depends on strategy, some require immense amounts of 0.01-ing, while some others are nearly all passive income, but rate of return is highly dependent on ....everyone else and market knowledge and you have to figure out how you fit in, as returns can differ by many orders of magnitude.

20m for 4 hours of L4 means your domi needs more skills though. T2 drones + afk is okay money, and certainly beats highsec mining. You should get 20m/hr min with some basic skills. (drone interfacing V? sentry V? set of large rails?)

Mark Democratic
Posted - 2010.07.08 04:50:00 - [6]
 

Hmm, Ill think about it

Trent0r
Caldari
Nex Exercitus
IT Alliance
Posted - 2010.07.08 05:05:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Mark Democratic
I have been running lvl 4's for a while now, but even with that, Im pretty dissatisfied with the amount of ISK I am able to bring in. Playing for around 4 hours a day, I bring in around 20mil ISK in a Dominix, which is pathetic compared to what other people I've heard are able to rake in. Ive been looking for an alternative profession that might be more profitable.

I am wondering, which is the best for a solo player to make money. Planetary Interaction, T1 manufacturing, t2 manufacturing, t3 manufacturing, trading or mining.


Faction fit golem. Razz

Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
Posted - 2010.07.08 07:02:00 - [8]
 

You should make 20M per hour even if you used full T1 ship & fittings.

If you don't, you should determine why you are doing bad (and solve it), not to take random shots at something else that won't yield you more (except trading *done well*).


 

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