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Cearain
Caldari
The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
Posted - 2010.07.07 20:13:00 - [121]
 

I'm betting her work on the CSM will no longer appear on her resume.


Oh and Miyamoto Isoruku you are an ank fanboy. True to ank fanboy style, you are just trying to deny it.




Casiella Truza
Ecliptic Rift
Posted - 2010.07.07 20:17:00 - [122]
 

Originally by: Misanth

Hell, you even see CSM candidates asking CCP to tell us more on this particular matter. Wink


Candidates (who thus did not get elected) have no special privileges beyond those of any other EVE player. CSM members likely find these things out as quickly as anyone else, and Ankh claims she will say more tomorrow.

Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Posted - 2010.07.07 20:23:00 - [123]
 

Originally by: Casiella Truza
Originally by: Misanth

Hell, you even see CSM candidates asking CCP to tell us more on this particular matter. Wink


Candidates (who thus did not get elected) have no special privileges beyond those of any other EVE player. CSM members likely find these things out as quickly as anyone else, and Ankh claims she will say more tomorrow.


Ugh, I knew I'd write one word wrong and have some english talking kid hit me in the head.

MOM! Crying or Very sad

Sniffy McJiggles
Posted - 2010.07.07 20:27:00 - [124]
 

If her blog is even 50% accurate then the csm is nothing more than a trip to Iceland.

Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.07.07 20:30:00 - [125]
 

Originally by: Sniffy McJiggles
If her blog is even 50% accurate then the csm is nothing more than a trip to Iceland.


If your statement was 50% accurate then...wait nvm

Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Defenders of Pen Island
Posted - 2010.07.07 20:32:00 - [126]
 

Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: Sniffy McJiggles
If her blog is even 50% accurate then the csm is nothing more than a trip to Iceland.


If your statement was 50% accurate then...wait nvm


confirming that free trips to iceland to talk about internet spaceships is srs business.

So serious, it would look good on your résumé


Verone
Gallente
Veto Corp
Posted - 2010.07.07 20:32:00 - [127]
 


Spoke to her in Iceland a little during Fanfest '09, she seemed alright and perfectly civil when not talking about Eve.

Sadly she's one of those people who hasn't got a damn clue about Eve, how it works, or the vision for the future.

Glad she's off the CSM tbh, for the best part her ideas and input were horrendous.


Novantco
The Tuskers
Posted - 2010.07.07 20:35:00 - [128]
 

Marked for deletion - Adida

Ghoest
Posted - 2010.07.07 20:36:00 - [129]
 

Im not defending Ank----- at all.

But this does draw attention to how unrepresentaive the CSM are of the player base.

The organized minority of serious corps/alliances dominate the CSM pool but they are actually a minority of totalplayers.
Most players play a game specifically avoiding large organizations that remind them of real life jobs.

The DRUDGE
Posted - 2010.07.07 20:42:00 - [130]
 

Originally by: Ghoest
Im not defending Ank----- at all.

But this does draw attention to how unrepresentaive the CSM are of the player base.

The organized minority of serious corps/alliances dominate the CSM pool but they are actually a minority of totalplayers.
Most players play a game specifically avoiding large organizations that remind them of real life jobs.


HAHA, you do bring up a good point about large orginazations reminding people of real life jobs. Probably why I'm still part of a smaller corp :p

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2010.07.07 20:45:00 - [131]
 

Originally by: Ghoest
Im not defending Ank----- at all.

But this does draw attention to how unrepresentaive the CSM are of the player base.

The organized minority of serious corps/alliances dominate the CSM pool but they are actually a minority of totalplayers.
Most players play a game specifically avoiding large organizations that remind them of real life jobs.


The CSM is representative of the population who bothered to vote.

Killer Gandry
Caldari
Shadow of the Pain
Posted - 2010.07.07 20:47:00 - [132]
 

I voted for Ankh and no I am not a carebear, and yes I actually know a few things about EVE.

But for lack of representation for high sec dwellers that atleast had some commitment I voted for Ankh.

Call me a fool or whatever, but having representation of only 0.0 stakeholders and 'or their pets on the CSM hardly reflects the playerbase.

It's now easy to sling more dung like Finnagain loves to do and some other people in this thread.

But untill CCP actually grasps their own balls and acts on the transparancy they claim to work towards to it's all guessing work.

Nobody knows why Ankh got booted from the CSM and the few that do hush up as tight as possible because else they find themselves in the same position.

CCP should at the very least clarify if this NDA breach was in regards with the current CSM or as claimed by others towards something of 2 years ago.

So actually the ball is in CCP's courtyard and people can hatemonger or white knight as much as they want. It still remains rumour and speculation.

Gavjack Bunk
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2010.07.07 20:47:00 - [133]
 

This process is being handled exceptionally poorly.

Cearain
Caldari
The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
Posted - 2010.07.07 20:50:00 - [134]
 

Since ank is in this field I wouldn't expect much info. Her career may suffer by saying the wrong thing. This means she will shut up. CCP could get sued for libel if they misspeak.

I think CCP was hoping for Ank to be more forthright (like Larkonis was) on how things went down. That didn't happen so I bet both sides clam up publicly, rattle sabers at each other privately until they can negotiate an agreement or ank files suit for libel.

Sure as a player I want to know more, but it’s unlikely.

Enriana Shlirapen
Posted - 2010.07.07 20:51:00 - [135]
 

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Katy 1
Posted - 2010.07.07 20:52:00 - [136]
 

Originally by: Ghoest
Im not defending Ank----- at all.
But this does draw attention to how unrepresentaive the CSM are of the player base.



Shh be careful what you are writing about. Big brother is watching. Just look how many times they changed inconvenient posts.

You have a choice - get a full time job in 0.0 or shut up - this is how this 'democracy' works ;/

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.07.07 20:56:00 - [137]
 

Originally by: Killer Gandry
Call me a fool or whatever, but having representation of only 0.0 stakeholders and 'or their pets on the CSM hardly reflects the playerbase.
It reflects the part of the player base that cares about what goes on with the development in the game (and who think that they can have any kind of influence on what CCP rolls out).

If they don't care, they… well… don't care, so it doesn't matter that they aren't represented.

RedLion
Caldari
State Constructions
Posted - 2010.07.07 20:58:00 - [138]
 

WTF CCP?

Ankh CSM, best CSM!

Also, who read blogs?

FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2010.07.07 21:00:00 - [139]
 

Originally by: Killer Gandry
sling more dung like Finnagain



You've never looked up the definition of the word "irony", eh?

Killer Gandry
Caldari
Shadow of the Pain
Posted - 2010.07.07 21:02:00 - [140]
 

Originally by: Tippia
It reflects the part of the player base that cares about what goes on with the development in the game (and who think that they can have any kind of influence on what CCP rolls out).

If they don't care, they… well… don't care, so it doesn't matter that they aren't represented.


Ow, so only the PvP player's of EVE that are stakeholders in 0.0 or their pets care about what goes on in EVE?

Talk about narrowminded.

If you have absolute and irrefutable proof that high sec dwellers have no love for EVE and don't care about EVE and it's progress then please put that forward.

If you can't produce such proof doesn't this statement of your's qualify you as a classic troll then?

Ghoest
Posted - 2010.07.07 21:02:00 - [141]
 

Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Ghoest
Im not defending Ank----- at all.

But this does draw attention to how unrepresentaive the CSM are of the player base.

The organized minority of serious corps/alliances dominate the CSM pool but they are actually a minority of totalplayers.
Most players play a game specifically avoiding large organizations that remind them of real life jobs.


The CSM is representative of the population who bothered to vote.


WRONG

Its representative of groups who voted in blocks.

Learn to think.

Yuki Kulotsuki
Posted - 2010.07.07 21:04:00 - [142]
 

Originally by: Killer Gandry
If you have absolute and irrefutable proof that high sec dwellers have no love for EVE and don't care about EVE and it's progress then please put that forward.
They live in highsec. Laughing

Plumpy McPudding
Profit Development and Research Association
Posted - 2010.07.07 21:04:00 - [143]
 

Empire simply has to vote for a better candidate next time.

Killer Gandry
Caldari
Shadow of the Pain
Posted - 2010.07.07 21:05:00 - [144]
 

Originally by: FinnAgain Zero

You've never looked up the definition of the word "irony", eh?


Nope, even though english is like my third language I don't need to sit with a dictionary at the PC as some others.

Plus I copy paste in general only whole comments to respond to and not partial clips to better suit my purposes.

Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Posted - 2010.07.07 21:06:00 - [145]
 

Originally by: Katy 1
Originally by: Ghoest
Im not defending Ank----- at all.
But this does draw attention to how unrepresentaive the CSM are of the player base.



Shh be careful what you are writing about. Big brother is watching. Just look how many times they changed inconvenient posts.

You have a choice - get a full time job in 0.0 or shut up - this is how this 'democracy' works ;/


Very Happy

DaiTengu
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.07.07 21:07:00 - [146]
 

Originally by: Plumpy McPudding
Empire simply has to vote for a better candidate next time.


Nothing good will ever come from empire.


nothing.

Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.07.07 21:17:00 - [147]
 

Originally by: Plumpy McPudding
Empire simply has to vote for a better candidate next time.


There are plenty of good 'carebear' candidates, you just need to look a bit further than the first forcefed propaganda video.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.07.07 21:20:00 - [148]
 

Originally by: Killer Gandry
If you have absolute and irrefutable proof that high sec dwellers have no love for EVE and don't care about EVE and it's progress then please put that forward.
How about the fact that, in spite of their supposed numerical superiority, they apparently only managed to get one representative onto the CSM?

As for narrow-minded, I noticed that you only picked up on one part of what I said, when it could reasonably be suspected that the other part is more indicative of why the representation looks the way it does… Rolling Eyes

Mynxee
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2010.07.07 21:29:00 - [149]
 

CSM has no more details than you guys do. Until CCP or Eva choose to share more about the situation, there's a real danger of wild speculation leading to insanely wrong conclusions. While "what if's" and "I betcha's" are fun, they are often inaccurate.

Eva's contributions to the June Summit were positive and useful (the triviality of "spoongate" aside). I think once the Minutes are published, you'll see that this is true. By the way, the Minutes have been reviewed/edited by CSM and are back in CCP's hands. I understand we'll have the opportunity for a second "approval" review once CCP has finalized their review and further edits. We all apologize for the Minutes taking so long, but it was a LOT of hours of meetings covering a lot of territory and we're all interested in making sure that the Minutes provide the player base with a good sense of what went on during the meetings. The draft I submitted to CCP after CSM revisions were done was something like 32 pages.

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2010.07.07 21:34:00 - [150]
 

Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: Plumpy McPudding
Empire simply has to vote for a better candidate next time.


There are plenty of good 'carebear' candidates, you just need to look a bit further than the first forcefed propaganda video.


I should apply for CSM as a carebear candidate. ugh

-Liang


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