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bustergonads
Posted - 2010.07.07 19:08:00 - [91]
 

Originally by: Captain Megadeath

That document, my friend is a curriculum Vitae, also known as a resume to our yank brethern.... She lists CCP as her EMPLOYER.. you know as in she works there and gets paid, and that isn't kosher.



Not sure about other countries? but i believe i am right in saying in the UK at least lying on your CV is against the law?

Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Defenders of Pen Island
Posted - 2010.07.07 19:09:00 - [92]
 

Originally by: Captain Megadeath

That document, my friend is a curriculum Vitae, also known as a resume to our yank brethern.... She lists CCP as her EMPLOYER.. you know as in she works there and gets paid, and that isn't kosher.


Removed an image that revealed personal data - Adida

In that case btw Furb, since i had lunch at Starbucks today, I am the CEO of starbucks now.

Abrazzar
Posted - 2010.07.07 19:10:00 - [93]
 

Originally by: Ashai Hirishuma
Stuff.

It's all a conspiracy of the anti-ankh-sentiment-bandwagon!!!!!!

Crawford McKinley
Posted - 2010.07.07 19:12:00 - [94]
 

Originally by: Helicity Boson
Originally by: Captain Megadeath

That document, my friend is a curriculum Vitae, also known as a resume to our yank brethern.... She lists CCP as her EMPLOYER.. you know as in she works there and gets paid, and that isn't kosher.


Removed an image that revealed personal data - Adida

In that case btw Furb, since i had lunch at Starbucks today, I am the CEO of starbucks now.



actually it's standard practice to list "voluntary" work on your CV under employment and as it clearly states in the CV you linked it's non profit ie voluntary in those posts so there is nothing wrong with her CV altho it's a really ****ing ugly layout on that website

Barakkus
Posted - 2010.07.07 19:14:00 - [95]
 

Edited by: Barakkus on 07/07/2010 19:18:11
Originally by: Furb Killer
Originally by: Barakkus
Originally by: Helicity Boson
http://i31.tinypic.com/3583w5s.jpg

Rolling Eyes

Image changed to a URL - Adida


Are you ****ing serious?

Omg she said she was in the CSM on her CV, get to the forum mobile!!!!11!!1

What exactly is the point? That on a document on her personal internet site she calls it employment history and not something else?


edit: nm i saw her full resume...

Dirk Smacker
Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
Posted - 2010.07.07 19:14:00 - [96]
 

Edited by: Dirk Smacker on 07/07/2010 19:18:39
Originally by: Helicity Boson
See? this is what you get for disapproving of Hulkageddon.

Told you so.



More plausible explanation than being fired for posting identical information that other CSM members wrote about.

But I think it's clear CCP hates us all. I've gathered that by reading this thread. Some parents beat their kids, CCP allows lag to occur in a 1600 ship system.

I feel like this frog to CCP's monkey all too often these days.

We live in dark times, gentlemen.

Johnny Rook
Requiem of the Sinner
Posted - 2010.07.07 19:14:00 - [97]
 

Edited by: Johnny Rook on 08/07/2010 02:45:41
ding dong the witch is dead..

Furb Killer
Gallente
Posted - 2010.07.07 19:14:00 - [98]
 

Originally by: Helicity Boson
Originally by: Captain Megadeath

That document, my friend is a curriculum Vitae, also known as a resume to our yank brethern.... She lists CCP as her EMPLOYER.. you know as in she works there and gets paid, and that isn't kosher.


Removed an image that revealed personal data - Adida

In that case btw Furb, since i had lunch at Starbucks today, I am the CEO of starbucks now.


She just said she was in the CSM, she was. I wont stop you if you say you had lunch at starbucks on your cv.

On mine i also got an internship listed under employment history, still waiting on the cops coming to get me...

Borgh Brainbasher
Saint Industrial Services
STEEL BROTHERHOOD
Posted - 2010.07.07 19:15:00 - [99]
 

Although CCP said it was confidential stuff I'd still like an explanation. Preferably no more then two words, just to stomp out the bushfire of speculation. "not spoongate" would be fine. Otherwise people will (and already have) just go ZOMG CEECEEPEE POWERTRIPPIN' and that would be bad.

Widemouth Deepthroat
Posted - 2010.07.07 19:18:00 - [100]
 


Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Defenders of Pen Island
Posted - 2010.07.07 19:18:00 - [101]
 

Originally by: Crawford McKinley


actually it's standard practice to list "voluntary" work on your CV under employment and as it clearly states in the CV you linked it's non profit ie voluntary in those posts so there is nothing wrong with her CV altho it's a really ****ing ugly layout on that website


Except that you never list them as employer, since they are not, and implying they are is as far as I am aware actually illegal here.

... and especially not don when you work in game design and then get booted for NDA breach, after visiting a well established software house and being given access to sensitive materials there effectively committing career suicide.


Captain Megadeath
Posted - 2010.07.07 19:18:00 - [102]
 

Originally by: Crawford McKinley
Originally by: Helicity Boson
Originally by: Captain Megadeath

That document, my friend is a curriculum Vitae, also known as a resume to our yank brethern.... She lists CCP as her EMPLOYER.. you know as in she works there and gets paid, and that isn't kosher.


Removed an image that revealed personal data - Adida

In that case btw Furb, since i had lunch at Starbucks today, I am the CEO of starbucks now.



actually it's standard practice to list "voluntary" work on your CV under employment and as it clearly states in the CV you linked it's non profit ie voluntary in those posts so there is nothing wrong with her CV altho it's a really ****ing ugly layout on that website


You would list Voluntary under another heading like "Hobbys" or even "Voluntary work" rather than "Employment" like she did.

If she were to get a job with a UK based company with that CV then she would be in serious trouble. Getting a job by lying on your CV is a criminal offence under the fraud Act.

Dierdra Vaal
Caldari
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2010.07.07 19:19:00 - [103]
 

Edited by: Dierdra Vaal on 07/07/2010 19:19:13
Massively has posted an article on this (wow they're quick):

http://www.massively.com/2010/07/07/ankhesentapemkah-removed-from-eves-council-of-stellar-managemen/

Dirk Smacker
Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
Posted - 2010.07.07 19:21:00 - [104]
 

Edited by: Dirk Smacker on 07/07/2010 19:22:26
Edited by: Dirk Smacker on 07/07/2010 19:21:55
Originally by: Captain Megadeath

If she were to get a job with a UK based company with that CV then she would be in serious trouble. Getting a job by lying on your CV is a criminal offence under the fraud Act.

CV? Speak English!!!!

It's called a resume. Wink

Delilah Wild
Posted - 2010.07.07 19:23:00 - [105]
 

This is all speculation until we know something concrete.

For example, it is quite common for whistle-blowers to be scapegoated, and for pretexts to be used to eliminate those who are unpopular with those in power.

Or if as Dierdra says, this violation of the NDA occurred before CSM5, then it may not even be relevant to her serving in that capacity. For instance, she might be banned from the game for a time, but still fulfill her responsibilities on the CSM5.

And then again, Ank might have done something seriously wrong and deserve to be removed.

I'd like to suggest we hold off from arguing the pros and cons of Ank herself. We've been through that before and it does no one any good. I do appreciate the fair mindedness of many of you who have opposed Ank in the past, but recognize there are larger issues at stake here.

I'd also like to urge the members of the CSM to take a step back from editorializing, and focus on ensuring that a fellow member of the CSM was treated fairly and with respect. This matters as much for you and future members of the CSM, as it does for Ank.

Recall that the CSM was formed because of CCP's serious issues with a perceived lack of transparency, accountability and fairness. Ank's removal concerns all of us. For the time being, we should all focus on getting a straight answer from CCP as well as Ank herself.

Delilah
friendsofeve.wordpress.com

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.07.07 19:23:00 - [106]
 

Edited by: Tippia on 07/07/2010 19:26:20
Originally by: Dirk Smacker
More plausible explanation than being fired for posting identical information that other CSM members wrote about.
And an even more plausible explanation is that she posted information that the other CSM members were sensible enough to keep to themselves, in accordance with the NDA.
Quote:
CV? Speak English!!!!

It's called a resume résumé. Wink
If you're going to spell it that way, at least put the diacritics in there so it can't be confused with something that continues… Razz

Furb Killer
Gallente
Posted - 2010.07.07 19:24:00 - [107]
 

Originally by: Captain Megadeath
Originally by: Crawford McKinley
Originally by: Helicity Boson
Originally by: Captain Megadeath

That document, my friend is a curriculum Vitae, also known as a resume to our yank brethern.... She lists CCP as her EMPLOYER.. you know as in she works there and gets paid, and that isn't kosher.


Removed an image that revealed personal data - Adida

In that case btw Furb, since i had lunch at Starbucks today, I am the CEO of starbucks now.



actually it's standard practice to list "voluntary" work on your CV under employment and as it clearly states in the CV you linked it's non profit ie voluntary in those posts so there is nothing wrong with her CV altho it's a really ****ing ugly layout on that website


You would list Voluntary under another heading like "Hobbys" or even "Voluntary work" rather than "Employment" like she did.

If she were to get a job with a UK based company with that CV then she would be in serious trouble. Getting a job by lying on your CV is a criminal offence under the fraud Act.


You are seriously deluding yourself if you believe that.

She was in the CSM, she has that on her CV. That it might be in wrong area is not something the cops (or anyone else) give a crap about. One google by a potential employer shows what the CSM is, if he is too lazy to do that it also isnt relevant.

drendell
Posted - 2010.07.07 19:24:00 - [108]
 

a shame to see her removed, it was nice to have variety on the csm.
kinda fitting that we have a bunch of clones on there now though

Alsyth
Night Warder
Posted - 2010.07.07 19:25:00 - [109]
 

Originally by: Dirk Smacker
Edited by: Dirk Smacker on 07/07/2010 19:22:26
Edited by: Dirk Smacker on 07/07/2010 19:21:55
Originally by: Captain Megadeath

If she were to get a job with a UK based company with that CV then she would be in serious trouble. Getting a job by lying on your CV is a criminal offence under the fraud Act.

CV? Speak English!!!!

It's called a resume. Wink


In fact it's called a "résumé" and it's a French word :)

Radgette
Posted - 2010.07.07 19:27:00 - [110]
 

Originally by: Alsyth
Originally by: Dirk Smacker
Edited by: Dirk Smacker on 07/07/2010 19:22:26
Edited by: Dirk Smacker on 07/07/2010 19:21:55
Originally by: Captain Megadeath

If she were to get a job with a UK based company with that CV then she would be in serious trouble. Getting a job by lying on your CV is a criminal offence under the fraud Act.

CV? Speak English!!!!

It's called a resume. Wink


In fact it's called a "résumé" and it's a French word :)


infact it's called a Curriculum Vitae

Widemouth Deepthroat
Posted - 2010.07.07 19:34:00 - [111]
 

No matter what she did Ankh clearly thought she was above the law or at the very least thought she could get away with it. Good riddance.

sir gankalot
Posted - 2010.07.07 19:37:00 - [112]
 

Eva's reaction:

Quote:
When reached for comment, Eva had the following to say: "All I can say at the moment is that out of respect for the CSM, the players of EVE, as well as the good people at CCP, I cannot give any details besides my personal conviction that CCP's statement is not in relation to any of my recent publications, and that I do not share CCP's conclusion that there has in fact been an NDA breach. I am currently engaged in following up this situation with CCP." Eva plans to keep her followers updated on her situation via her CSM blog as the situation develops.

Gladys Pank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
Posted - 2010.07.07 19:37:00 - [113]
 

I knew it was a mistake to let such a fractious personality 'represent the people'. Looks like I was correct.

'Take Care' Ankh.


Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.07.07 19:38:00 - [114]
 

Originally by: Zelda Wei
So she got kicked for breaching the NDA with her inconvenient blog, but she's not the only CSM to write a blog. So we must wonder why she has been singled out. To bystanders (I voted for some body else) this looks like the hate campaign succeeded.

I guess those Haters gotta Hate

http://knowyourmeme.com/i/000/043/917/original/hatersgonnapanda.jpg?1269196691


Image changed to URL. Zymurgist


You are posting rubbish, FYI.


Originally by: Radgette
Originally by: Dierdra Vaal
I want to emphasise that the NDA breach was not related to CSM5, and happened well before Ank took office in CSM5.



i don't particularly like the way ankh does things or the way it's reported she was acting at the summit BUT this just seems too convenient to me tbh,
right after CCP gets bad press from the CSM the one who wrote the first blog against them suddenly has some 2 year old NDA breach noticed and actioned against, thats some awesome timing right there tbh


And so are you. My blog posts were online before hers, and I voiced the same sentiments that she did, so that was *not* what she was removed for.

iudex
Posted - 2010.07.07 19:42:00 - [115]
 

This sucks CCP. If you don't respect the vote of the playerbase and kick CSM members for flimsy reasons, you should finish this ludicrous project completely, or at least stop calling it "democracy".

Zenst
Hall Of Flame
Chain of Chaos
Posted - 2010.07.07 19:52:00 - [116]
 

Even if the logs show nothing, this is one ship^ht loss I'll happily accept.

Can we have Maz back now :).

Move along now, nothing too see here.

Squat Hardpeck
State Protectorate
Posted - 2010.07.07 19:55:00 - [117]
 

To be honest, I'm quite surprised her working for a separate gaming entity, small or not, didn't bar her from running in the first place. As that could have been easily considered a conflict of interest.

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
Posted - 2010.07.07 20:02:00 - [118]
 

I say good riddance.

It didn't take a lot of research into her character to see she wasn't fit for the job. A particular chat log where she completely loses her cool over interweb spaceships and makes personal attacks comes to mind... I believe it was covered in one of a few threads about her prior to the CSM election.

For those of you who voted for her, sorry you threw away your votes. Pay more attention next time.

FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2010.07.07 20:10:00 - [119]
 

Originally by: War Kitten

For those of you who voted for her, sorry you threw away your votes. Pay more attention next time.



This, tbh.
It's a shame that instead of voting for a valid candidate, so many people threw their votes away.

Ah well... sometimes you have to cut off your nose to spite your face, I guess.

Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Posted - 2010.07.07 20:11:00 - [120]
 

Originally by: Winterblink
Originally by: Miyamoto Isoruku
qft. i don't like ankh but we deserve to know why she got booted.

No we don't, since there's nothing anywhere that stipulates we have the right to. In fact, the opposite is more likely true.



That's bullcrap, and you should know that. Razz

CSM was created to create transparacy and an insight into CCP after the t20 incident. Internal Affairs is just as shady as CCP's behaviour themselves. If this particular case is one where we don't need details, as it might harm the development of the game, that should be put forward more straight up.

Having a NDA for the CSM is just wrong by it's own tbh, since that kills the whole idea of transparacy. And a CSM without it's original role, just turn into a PR trick for CCP and a big waste of money that could be better spent, no? That's another discussion, tho.

Originally by: TeaDaze
It would be nice if CCP would clarify the situation a bit because the lack of details are just causing more wild speculation...


Hell, you even see CSM candidates asking CCP to tell us more on this particular matter. Wink


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