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Dierdra Vaal
Caldari
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2010.07.07 18:37:00 - [61]
 

Edited by: Dierdra Vaal on 07/07/2010 18:53:23
This is an unfortunate occurance. Also this would make mazzilliu CSM member.

Zelda Wei
Caldari
New Horizon Trade Exchange
Posted - 2010.07.07 18:38:00 - [62]
 

So she got kicked for breaching the NDA with her inconvenient blog, but she's not the only CSM to write a blog. So we must wonder why she has been singled out. To bystanders (I voted for some body else) this looks like the hate campaign succeeded.

I guess those Haters gotta Hate

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Abrazzar
Posted - 2010.07.07 18:38:00 - [63]
 

Violating a NDA in a serious manner as a game designer is pretty much career suicide.

Hitome Kirishiro
Posted - 2010.07.07 18:38:00 - [64]
 

When in the course of typical MMO asshattery it becomes necessary for a Developer to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with an elected player representative, a decent respect for the opinions of said electorate requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

Captain Megadeath
Posted - 2010.07.07 18:40:00 - [65]
 

Originally by: Hesperius
Doesn't she work for another game development company? Seems like that would/should disqualify you from the get go.

Not surprised on this one.


Not only that but she lists CCP as her employer on her C.V

Cleared baseless personal attack - Adida

greentusk
Posted - 2010.07.07 18:40:00 - [66]
 

Originally by: Qoi
reported by CCP Wrangler | 2010.07.07 16:59:23 | NEW
Today Eva "Ankhesentapemkah" Jobse was removed from the Council of Stellar Management due to a breach of the non-disclosure agreement (NDA). this to be a private issue between Eva and CCP, therefore we are unable to comment further.

discuss.



That won't look good on her CV.

Ori Blake
Posted - 2010.07.07 18:43:00 - [67]
 

Need more information on why the NDA was breached. I don't know Ankh or really have a position one way or the other, but given she seems to be unpopular there's always going to be an undercurrent of this being done politically rather than due to an actual breach.

Please give more info when its possible to do so.

Miyamoto Isoruku
Caldari
Original Sin.
Posted - 2010.07.07 18:43:00 - [68]
 

Originally by: Hitome Kirishiro
When in the course of typical MMO asshattery it becomes necessary for a Developer to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with an elected player representative, a decent respect for the opinions of said electorate requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.


qft. i don't like ankh but we deserve to know why she got booted.

Rouge Drone
Posted - 2010.07.07 18:44:00 - [69]
 

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Dirk Mortice
Posted - 2010.07.07 18:46:00 - [70]
 

Originally by: Furb Killer
Originally by: Dirk Mortice

As one of Ankh's loudest forum friends, would you like to comment about her coming down to earth in a ball of flames and potentially being a bigger scammer than anybody she ever spoke out against?

As one of Sokratesz closest friends, would you like to comment about him being al-qaida member and planning to attack the CCP servers with zombies using his inside information gained as CSM member?

Like i said now several times, although your kind seems to have some issues reading, it is all pointless speculation until it is told why it was done, which probably will never be told.



I was always wondering why he kept disappearing into those hidden bunkers at night!

Cinori Aluben
Minmatar
Gladiators of Rage
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2010.07.07 18:46:00 - [71]
 

Originally by: Dierdra Vaal
I want to emphasise that the NDA breach was not related to CSM5, and happened well before Ank took office in CSM5.


Hmm, sounds like someone does know.

Winterblink
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.07.07 18:47:00 - [72]
 

Originally by: Miyamoto Isoruku
qft. i don't like ankh but we deserve to know why she got booted.

No we don't, since there's nothing anywhere that stipulates we have the right to. In fact, the opposite is more likely true.

Radgette
Posted - 2010.07.07 18:48:00 - [73]
 

Originally by: Dierdra Vaal
I want to emphasise that the NDA breach was not related to CSM5, and happened well before Ank took office in CSM5.



i don't particularly like the way ankh does things or the way it's reported she was acting at the summit BUT this just seems too convenient to me tbh,
right after CCP gets bad press from the CSM the one who wrote the first blog against them suddenly has some 2 year old NDA breach noticed and actioned against, thats some awesome timing right there tbh

TeaDaze
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
Posted - 2010.07.07 18:48:00 - [74]
 

Originally by: Malcanis
Now come Mynxee, Socratez, TeaDaze and Traebor didn't get kicked as well then?

I've not yet blogged about the summit in any detail because I'm waiting for the official minutes (so I can pick them to bits). I felt it was a bad idea to do so however it doesn't appear to be the cause of the NDA issue.

It would be nice if CCP would clarify the situation a bit because the lack of details are just causing more wild speculation...

Mazzarins Demise
Profit Development and Research Association
Posted - 2010.07.07 18:49:00 - [75]
 

Edited by: Mazzarins Demise on 07/07/2010 18:48:46
Originally by: Cinori Aluben
Originally by: Dierdra Vaal
I want to emphasise that the NDA breach was not related to CSM5, and happened well before Ank took office in CSM5.


Hmm, sounds like someone does know.

If this occurred well before she took office, why the hell was she allowed to take office in the first place? Actually, I guess I just answered my own question, they didn't bother to look.

Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Defenders of Pen Island
Posted - 2010.07.07 18:52:00 - [76]
 

http://i31.tinypic.com/3583w5s.jpg

Rolling Eyes

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Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2010.07.07 18:54:00 - [77]
 

Originally by: Qoi
reported by CCP Wrangler | 2010.07.07 16:59:23 | NEW
Today Eva "Ankhesentapemkah" Jobse was removed from the Council of Stellar Management due to a breach of the non-disclosure agreement (NDA). We are deeply saddened but feel that it was the only possible solution in order to protect the integrity of the Council of Stellar Management. As this is a matter regarding confidential data we do consider this to be a private issue between Eva and CCP, therefore we are unable to comment further.



Bolded for those with selective reading habits ;) I've read the blogs from the various CSM delegates during and since the summit. Nothing Eva's blog or anyone else's contained any new information that would constitute a breach of the NDA.

Furthermore, the release from Wrangler says *specifically* confidential data was involved. This tells me she got her hands on something she wasnt supposed to and action is being taken either because of what she got, how she got it, or what she did/was planning to do with it.

I really dont think CCP would outright remove someone from CSM because they talked about something in the minutes before they came out or something like that. Lark f'd up and essentially committed insider trading due to his foreknowledge of game changes. It's not clear what Ankh did to get removed, but it must have been considerably more serious than telling people stuff they already knew on her blog.

In any case, I hope all the "take care" supporters take care to be more responsible in the candidates they support going forward.

captain foivos
Posted - 2010.07.07 18:54:00 - [78]
 

Can we get some kind of information other than "She violated the NDA and was removed"? I mean, I don't particularly like what she wants to implement at all but if any CSM member can get removed like that with, with almost no explanation whatsoever, it doesn't bode well for the future...can't believe I'm sticking up a bit for Ankh.

Captain Megadeath
Posted - 2010.07.07 18:55:00 - [79]
 

Originally by: Mazzarins Demise
Edited by: Mazzarins Demise on 07/07/2010 18:48:46
Originally by: Cinori Aluben
Originally by: Dierdra Vaal
I want to emphasise that the NDA breach was not related to CSM5, and happened well before Ank took office in CSM5.


Hmm, sounds like someone does know.

If this occurred well before she took office, why the hell was she allowed to take office in the first place? Actually, I guess I just answered my own question, they didn't bother to look.


Perhaps it took place before she took office and CCP just found out? huh? but that wouldn't fit the CCP/CSM haterz plot to vilify both..

Best to wait on an official report before putting your foot in it... hmmmm

Jimer Lins
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2010.07.07 18:55:00 - [80]
 

Originally by: Miyamoto Isoruku
Originally by: Hitome Kirishiro
When in the course of typical MMO asshattery it becomes necessary for a Developer to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with an elected player representative, a decent respect for the opinions of said electorate requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.


qft. i don't like ankh but we deserve to know why she got booted.


We do know.

It was for NDA violations. That's all we're going to get, most likely.


Barakkus
Posted - 2010.07.07 18:56:00 - [81]
 

Originally by: Helicity Boson
http://i31.tinypic.com/3583w5s.jpg

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Are you ****ing serious?

Mazzarins Demise
Profit Development and Research Association
Posted - 2010.07.07 18:57:00 - [82]
 

Originally by: Captain Megadeath

Perhaps it took place before she took office and CCP just found out? huh? but that wouldn't fit the CCP/CSM haterz plot to vilify both..

That's what I said Smile. I think a background check should be done for each and every CSM candidate as thoroughly as possible. It is a liaison position after all.

Trader20
Posted - 2010.07.07 18:58:00 - [83]
 

CCP while you have ur boots on you should fire sok.....why don't you just clean house and start over Laughing

Intense Thinker
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.07.07 18:58:00 - [84]
 

Wish I had voted for Ankh... then I could claim I knew the future and saw this coming and used it forthe lulz Laughing

Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Defenders of Pen Island
Posted - 2010.07.07 18:59:00 - [85]
 

Originally by: Barakkus
Originally by: Helicity Boson
http://i31.tinypic.com/3583w5s.jpg

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Are you ****ing serious?


deadly

Furb Killer
Gallente
Posted - 2010.07.07 18:59:00 - [86]
 

Originally by: Barakkus
Originally by: Helicity Boson
http://i31.tinypic.com/3583w5s.jpg

Rolling Eyes

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Are you ****ing serious?

Omg she said she was in the CSM on her CV, get to the forum mobile!!!!11!!1

What exactly is the point? That on a document on her personal internet site she calls it employment history and not something else?

Felix Esperium
Lysergic Distortions Research and Development
Posted - 2010.07.07 19:03:00 - [87]
 

Originally by: Furb Killer

Omg she said she was in the CSM on her CV, get to the forum mobile!!!!11!!1

What exactly is the point? That on a document on her personal internet site she calls it employment history and not something else?


So do you white knight often or just for Ankh?

iP0D
Posted - 2010.07.07 19:05:00 - [88]
 

Originally by: TeaDaze
Originally by: Malcanis
Now come Mynxee, Socratez, TeaDaze and Traebor didn't get kicked as well then?

I've not yet blogged about the summit in any detail because I'm waiting for the official minutes (so I can pick them to bits). I felt it was a bad idea to do so however it doesn't appear to be the cause of the NDA issue.

It would be nice if CCP would clarify the situation a bit because the lack of details are just causing more wild speculation...


So, when are you having the talk about working at CCP, or have you had it already Cool


Captain Megadeath
Posted - 2010.07.07 19:05:00 - [89]
 

Originally by: Furb Killer
Originally by: Barakkus
Originally by: Helicity Boson
http://i31.tinypic.com/3583w5s.jpg

Rolling Eyes

Image changed to a URL - Adida


Are you ****ing serious?

Omg she said she was in the CSM on her CV, get to the forum mobile!!!!11!!1

What exactly is the point? That on a document on her personal internet site she calls it employment history and not something else?


That document, my friend is a curriculum Vitae, also known as a resume to our yank brethern.... She lists CCP as her EMPLOYER.. you know as in she works there and gets paid, and that isn't kosher.

Ashai Hirishuma
Posted - 2010.07.07 19:06:00 - [90]
 

Quote:
i don't particularly like the way ankh does things or the way it's reported she was acting at the summit BUT this just seems too convenient to me tbh, right after CCP gets bad press from the CSM the one who wrote the first blog against them suddenly has some 2 year old NDA breach noticed and actioned against, thats some awesome timing right there tbh


Such a coincidence...yeah right. Out and out powerplay by CCP. Reknowned for their love of constructive criticism as they are.

Blog as a cause? ROFL. I think standing up to CCP is more than enough for this to happen.

Sacking a member for a 2 year old offence? Don't make me laugh.

Sacking the CSM with the 2nd highest vote? P***taking of the highest order. Nice one CCP. You've just spectacularly lost any confidence I may have retained in you.

Check this well considered response and continue to watch this space for further infoz. I expect the next few weeks to be quite eventful. Unfortunately.

Personal attack removed. Zymurgist


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