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Locin WeEda
Red Frog Investments
Posted - 2010.07.03 14:59:00 - [1]

Edited by: Locin WeEda on 27/07/2010 14:44:23

I feel it is time to raise these issues (again)

The improvement to courier contract size, and the ability to deliver a courier contract by rightclicking on the courier package were great additions in Dominion, and have done both the setup of courier contracts, and the completion of courier contracts to a much more enjoyable task.

There are however many other improvements that could be made to the courier contract interface to make it even more useful, for both the issuer and the contractor.

When setting up courier contracts:
  • It is difficult for the issuer of a contract to see how much m3 he has added to the contract, until the contract is nearly finished. Some kind of counter for the m3 would be useful. A size column in addition to the quantity column that already exists would be an easy fix, although a sum of the total volume would be much better (both would be best)

  • add a warning when someone enters an assembled ship into a courier contract, that the insurance will be void (currently, warnings are only given on exchange and auction contracts). Better yet, make the insurance resume when the ship is back at its owner again, as long as the contract is not failed.

When searching for courier contracts it would be useful with more courier contract friendly filters
  • filter on route security (max and min security rating for systems along the route)

  • filter on collateral

  • filter on reward

  • filter on trip length (number of jumps)

  • filter on distance to pickup system

  • filter on volume (max and min volume)

Better sorting options (related to filters)
  • sort on collateral

  • sort on reward

  • sort on jumps to pickup

After accepting a contract:
  • add a "show contract" to the menu when right-clicking on a courier package

  • move deliver contract away from repackage and break contract from the righ-click menu on a courier package in a station

Corporate courier contracts:
  • add a role for accepting courier contracts issued to a corporation

  • make it possible for contract managers to see who in a corporation has accepted a courier contract issued to the corporation

  • make sorting of contracts better. Currently it is impossible to sort courier contracts properly after completed date or time left for outstanding contracts. When you have more than 100 contracts outstanding to your corporation, and you sort on time left, the oldest contracts appear on page 2, not page 1 as you would expect.

Last, but not least:

Give us a contract API, for personal, corporate and alliance contracts, as well as an option to export particular contract details in an easy way to our computer for further parsing.

I will gladly invite a dev or a CSM representative to our corp for a few days so that he/she can experience the issues with courier contracts firsthand.

PS: Updated title slightly

Janos Saal
Posted - 2010.07.03 15:01:00 - [2]

Sensible and reasonable suggestions.

Red Frog Investments
Posted - 2010.07.03 18:33:00 - [3]

Locin has offered a concise list improvements from which everyone who uses courier contracts would benefit. They apply to an issuer, an individual hauler, or a corporation that relies heavily on courier contracts.

It is a remedy to the "pain" that can only be fully understood by those who use courier contracts constantly.

This proposal gathers my full support.

Promethia Macleod
Posted - 2010.07.03 19:16:00 - [4]

Edited by: Promethia Macleod on 03/07/2010 19:18:37
A very detailed and relevant enhancement request. I support this 120%.

Posted - 2010.07.03 19:17:00 - [5]

This is a very good idea. There is something for all sides are concerned dealing with contracts. Thanks for taking the time listing it all down for the devs, and also want to thank the devs in advance for thier time!

Gabriel Rosencrantz
Gods of Freight
Posted - 2010.07.03 19:32:00 - [6]

Contract API please. Would also be great if there was a way to pass courier contracts between pilots. It would help corpmates assist one another and possibly use a dispatch system.

Posted - 2010.07.03 21:44:00 - [7]

Supported. Courier contract UI is terrible in oh so many ways.

Herschel Yamamoto
Nabaal Syndicate
Posted - 2010.07.04 16:11:00 - [8]

Great list of improvements. Fully supported.

Orb Vex

Posted - 2010.07.04 20:08:00 - [9]

Norse'Storm Battle Group
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2010.07.04 20:38:00 - [10]

For the love of courier pilots everywhere, don't even think about it, just do it!

Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles

Posted - 2010.07.04 22:03:00 - [11]


Speaking as someone accounting for about 6% of RF's business, I'd also like to see a way of setting lots of parallel contracts very quickly and without too many clicks.

Posted - 2010.07.06 11:32:00 - [12]

I also support this!

get on this CCP! :D

Cravarian Kuhnitis
Order of Paradox
Night Sky Alliance
Posted - 2010.07.08 15:25:00 - [13]


Posted - 2010.07.08 15:35:00 - [14]

Aye, that be helpful.

Veto Corp
Posted - 2010.07.08 16:32:00 - [15]

Good, useful ideas.

Posted - 2010.07.08 17:02:00 - [16]

Ave Volta

Posted - 2010.07.08 18:02:00 - [17]

Good implement! :)

Posted - 2010.07.09 01:44:00 - [18]

quite reasonable.

Originally by: Locin WeEda

  • It is difficult for the issuer of a contract to see how much m3 he has added to the contract, until the contract is nearly finished. Some kind of counter for the m3 would be useful.

I think there are many aggregations of items - e.g. hangars, jetcans, bays, assets - where volume is sometimes of interest to the player. A general widget capability throughout the EVE UI that provided a sortable volume column with total would be even better. I.e., address the general need not just this specific instance.

Locin WeEda
Red Frog Investments
Posted - 2010.07.09 06:56:00 - [19]

That is a very good suggestion, ChrisIsherwood

Belid Hagen
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.07.09 10:46:00 - [20]

another thing that should already be in the game. CCP stop inventing new things to put into the game and **** up. Fix the stuff we have

Posted - 2010.07.09 15:10:00 - [21]

Excellent suggestions please implement also Red frog has excellent service have used several times

Undin Trelay
Posted - 2010.07.11 15:03:00 - [22]

Supported. Outstanding ideas.

Jin Nib
Resplendent Knives
Posted - 2010.07.11 16:07:00 - [23]

Flippington Bigboy
Posted - 2010.07.13 09:55:00 - [24]

A great set of well thought out ideas that will help gameplay enourmously. Well done Locin - and another big thumbs up for the excellent Red Frog Investments courier service.

Chinar Tiner
Posted - 2010.07.13 09:57:00 - [25]

These improvements would help play ENORMOUSLY.

kassie kelmar
Posted - 2010.07.14 23:12:00 - [26]

Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
Posted - 2010.07.15 02:36:00 - [27]

When issuing courrier contracts from your Assets window (i.e. contracting items in a far away station), give us the option to only contract a part of the item stack. Let's say I have 40k m^3 of Tritannium somewhere in a single stack, there is currently no way to set up two transport-sized courrier contracts.

Posted - 2010.07.15 20:03:00 - [28]

I support. Good ideas.

Deepspace Diver
Posted - 2010.07.15 21:34:00 - [29]

Posted - 2010.07.15 22:39:00 - [30]

Excellent ideas.

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