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Jack Dant
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.06.28 17:15:00 - [61]
 

Originally by: "Patch Notes"
When a player changes the shader setting to low, it will no longer encounter flickering and transparency issues on models.
This will be fixed in a future expansion

Excellent fix.

badgirl4ever
Posted - 2010.06.28 17:21:00 - [62]
 

can anyone help with the excractor problem I'm having?
I put in a ticket 3days ago

Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network
Dignitas.
Posted - 2010.06.28 17:25:00 - [63]
 

Quote:
CRITICAL

* Due to the unprecedented nature of the downtime on the 23rd and 24th of June, players have been awarded a number of bonus skill points to assign to a skill or skills of their choice. These skill points will be assigned to the highest skill point character on the account and can be applied by right clicking the desired skill in the character sheet.



So that's how it'll work.

And how many SP, exactly?

Rahaer
Galactic System Lords Alliance
Posted - 2010.06.28 17:38:00 - [64]
 

Edited by: Rahaer on 28/06/2010 17:38:09
Originally by: Jack Dant
Originally by: "Patch Notes"
When a player changes the shader setting to low, it will no longer encounter flickering and transparency issues on models.
This will be fixed in a future expansion

Excellent fix.


Good fix (even though you were sarcastic, Jack), but not until another expansion? Crying or Very sadMad

Edit: I need spelling classes :P

demonfurbie
Minmatar
Drunken Wookies
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2010.06.28 17:48:00 - [65]
 

Originally by: patch notes
The customs office will no longer turn pink when zooming in and out.



i think you should consult ccp eris about all things pink before changing them with out her permission

S'qarpium D'igil
Posted - 2010.06.28 17:51:00 - [66]
 

Thank you for continuing to ignore Roflkets and AF bonuses.

Pr1ncess Alia
Posted - 2010.06.28 17:52:00 - [67]
 

Originally by: Dan O'Connor
Quote:
CRITICAL

* Due to the unprecedented nature of the downtime on the 23rd and 24th of June, players have been awarded a number of bonus skill points to assign to a skill or skills of their choice. These skill points will be assigned to the highest skill point character on the account and can be applied by right clicking the desired skill in the character sheet.



So that's how it'll work.

And how many SP, exactly?



755

Huberek Morchu
Posted - 2010.06.28 18:04:00 - [68]
 

Edited by: Huberek Morchu on 28/06/2010 18:04:28
Originally by: Dan O'Connor
Quote:
CRITICAL

* Due to the unprecedented nature of the downtime on the 23rd and 24th of June, players have been awarded a number of bonus skill points to assign to a skill or skills of their choice. These skill points will be assigned to the highest skill point character on the account and can be applied by right clicking the desired skill in the character sheet.




So that's how it'll work.

And how many SP, exactly?



Over 9000!

Caldari Citizen4714
Posted - 2010.06.28 18:05:00 - [69]
 

Originally by: Nathan Jameson
"Fast and Furious: Tash-Murkon Drift."


Laughing

Letrange
Minmatar
Red Horizon Inc
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2010.06.28 18:12:00 - [70]
 

Originally by: Abrazzar
Originally by: Sulaco Su
hope the'll fix the well known PI-itemdupe bug with that - its not showing on the patch notes :s

This I hope, too. I wonder how many P4 items and other valuable stuff got duped at massive amounts. Probably a few Outposts worth.

Well you know how CCP is about announcing fixes to exploits ahead of time. However I suspect this exploit will remain in place due to the lack of PI fixes in the patch notes. It's probably tied to a number of other bugs and the lack of patch notes on those bugs leads me to believe the exploit will remain in place much longer.

Cass Tamuri
Nebula Rasa Holdings
Nebula Rasa
Posted - 2010.06.28 18:15:00 - [71]
 

Thanks for offering a compensation for the long downtime!

Do all the skill points have to be applied to a single level in a single skill? What happens to "excess" skill points for the current level?

Escoce
Gallente
Interstellar Tritanium
United Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2010.06.28 18:24:00 - [72]
 

Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Originally by: Chribba
Yes start planning, because you will only be able to apply the SP on the char with the highest SP on the account anyway...
This is correct, more information on how it will work will be added to the patch notes as soon as possible.


Ok this doesn't really affect me because I don't run alts. However, I can certainly see how this would have a negative impact for some people. How would this remediation help a player with a high skill point character that is no longer training anything and the player has no plans to train them further? This creates an unbalanced reward/remediation that some players get to benefit from, and makes it useless to others. I recommend CCP revisits this decision prior to deployment in order to maintain balance and fairness.

what good would it be to gain skill points on a trader hauler alt that has max skills within the scope of his/her usefulness?

Stari Srba
Gallente
The Eldars
Posted - 2010.06.28 18:31:00 - [73]
 

Maybe we shouldn't be as concerned as we are, since they are going to give us a very small pool of SP. I don't expect them giving us 1 million SP or more. Maybe up to few thousand SP, no more. So, it's not such a big deal after all.

bcs1
Minmatar
River-Rats in space
Posted - 2010.06.28 18:35:00 - [74]
 

"These skill points will be assigned to the highest skill point character on the account"

This disturbs me a bit as I acquired an additional character after the downtime and that character has more skill points than my normal character on my main account.
I don't intend to play that additional character as much as I do my main one, and have even started a new eve account to transfer it over to, so in essence I will be forced to place those skill points on a character that I do not want to put them on because I cannot complete the transfer of the additional character to the other account before the patch?...

I hope no one gets me wrong, I appreciate the effort that CCP puts into bringing us the game and supporting it, and the extra skill points are a nice touch too, I just hate having the feeling that someone's giving me a gift, but telling me I can't use the thing in a manner that would benefit my account as intended by CCP in giving the gift in the first place.


anyway, I'm not mad, just a little disappointed....

Bill


Ban Doga
Posted - 2010.06.28 18:35:00 - [75]
 

Edited by: Ban Doga on 28/06/2010 18:34:58
Originally by: StarStryder
Originally by: Ban Doga
Originally by: Kithran

These are also the sort of fixes you can give to a newbie to do - give them a list of planets, tell them to go through and make sure this field is between 0.75 and 1.25, if it isn't put a random number in in that range.

Conversely fixing rockets would require more changes and testing - the testing part being important as its a task you couldn't necessarily give to a newbie as they wouldn't have the knowledge to know if things were now correct.

Kithran


Yeah, don't invest a little time into fixing something that matters and instead invest next to no time into fixing something that has no effect at all.

*golflcap*


*facepalm*
If you're going to contradict something then at least have the decency to address the points made.

Doesn't matter how much newbie dev time you allocate, they're not going to get a change that influences the game balance inside one release period. Should those newbie devs sit there twiddling their thumbs or do something useful.


I was referring to the point that fixing rockets also requires changing 1 or 2 numbers (it was in the part I quoted)
The effort to do this is probably the same as changing a number in a planet's description.

And my point still holds: changing that number has no impact on the game whatsoever.
There are so many other things, things people have requested/talked about for months or even years.
Like the order of some menu items ("Trash" right next to "Activate"). That would make a real difference and cannot possibly be harder to fix than a typo.

But I'm sure you are very glad you were able to bring the "wrong developer" argument once more?
So *facepalm* my ass.

Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network
Dignitas.
Posted - 2010.06.28 18:52:00 - [76]
 

Originally by: Huberek Morchu
Edited by: Huberek Morchu on 28/06/2010 18:04:28
Originally by: Dan O'Connor
Quote:
CRITICAL

* Due to the unprecedented nature of the downtime on the 23rd and 24th of June, players have been awarded a number of bonus skill points to assign to a skill or skills of their choice. These skill points will be assigned to the highest skill point character on the account and can be applied by right clicking the desired skill in the character sheet.




So that's how it'll work.

And how many SP, exactly?



Over 9000!



By the belts of Orion! Very Happy

Tork Norand
Mechanical Eagles Inc.
The Ancients.
Posted - 2010.06.28 19:00:00 - [77]
 

Originally by: Stari Srba
The only thing that annoys me in PI is that the windows are transparent and the tex is barely readable on some planets. This is not consistent with my Settings where I turned off the transparency and it is still applied to those windows.

If not for this patch, please consider fixing it for the next one.


I'm going to agree with this and add that the sound level on the PI screens is too loud. Give me either a quieter sound or a separate volume setting for it.

Im Blue
Posted - 2010.06.28 19:06:00 - [78]
 

when are you fixing the 3 pos bugs mentioned in the screw up from last big patch feed back post.

you cant trash stuffs in corp hangers since tyrannis
you cant take/view from offline hangers since tyrannis
you cant set the tower to keep alliance members out since tyrannis

you coudl do these things no problem before the expansion, when will you put this right?


Garreth Vlox
Minmatar
Obsidian Inc.
Posted - 2010.06.28 19:14:00 - [79]
 

Originally by: Jack Coutu
No SP mention, no lag fixing, no actual constructive work done, just a patch pushed out for the sake of a patch?

Oh sorry I forgot, a new useless ship.

Guys, step up your game a little.


im wondering how you missed the SP mention as it was the first thing in the patch notes assuming you read them before you went on you little rant.
"CRITICAL

•Due to the unprecedented nature of the downtime on the 23rd and 24th of June, players have been awarded a number of bonus skill points to assign to a skill or skills of their choice. These skill points will be assigned to the highest skill point character on the account and can be applied by right clicking the desired skill in the character sheet.

Ban Doga
Posted - 2010.06.28 19:17:00 - [80]
 

Edited by: Ban Doga on 28/06/2010 19:17:20
Originally by: Garreth Vlox
Originally by: Jack Coutu
No SP mention, no lag fixing, no actual constructive work done, just a patch pushed out for the sake of a patch?

Oh sorry I forgot, a new useless ship.

Guys, step up your game a little.


im wondering how you missed the SP mention as it was the first thing in the patch notes assuming you read them before you went on you little rant.
"CRITICAL

•Due to the unprecedented nature of the downtime on the 23rd and 24th of June, players have been awarded a number of bonus skill points to assign to a skill or skills of their choice. These skill points will be assigned to the highest skill point character on the account and can be applied by right clicking the desired skill in the character sheet.



The green text indicates an update to the patch notes.
It wasn't there at the beginning...

StarshipAI
Independent Traders and Builders
MPA
Posted - 2010.06.28 19:28:00 - [81]
 

I heard you can get up to 3 Primae PI ships per account if you have toons in the slots before DT. Is this true?

Anxiir
Strange Energy
Posted - 2010.06.28 19:31:00 - [82]
 

So I cant help but notice nothing important is being fixed.

Like the jump bridge bug - You know when you use a jump bridge or jump portal, then the selected item window fails to update. (still no response to my bug report btw)

Or how about the chat window text bug? When it overlaps and gets cutoff.....

and what about when you dock and none of your ships show up in the hanger sometimes, requiring a relog.

Oh well i guess, bugs that effect gameplay aren't near as important as a pink texture when zooming.

Ultim8Evil
Ministry Of Eternal Disorder
Posted - 2010.06.28 19:31:00 - [83]
 

Originally by: Huberek Morchu
Over 9000!


This made me lol Laughing

Anvil44
Posted - 2010.06.28 19:36:00 - [84]
 

Originally by: StarshipAI
I heard you can get up to 3 Primae PI ships per account if you have toons in the slots before DT. Is this true?

Pretty sure it is one per paying account.

Myrr Starshine
Minmatar
Galactic Express
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2010.06.28 19:45:00 - [85]
 

Okay I'm not a computer whizz, but this seems kinda lacking...

These seem like maybe simple fixes someone spent maybe 10 - 20 hours on at most.

So I have to ask what did they spend the other 20-30 hours of the work week doing?

And what was everyone else doing?

Junkie Babe
Posted - 2010.06.28 19:54:00 - [86]
 

I would like to know many hours sp we are getting tomorow, as I'm unsure if I should put it on a short skill and if it overflows would the excess be waisted or wether i should assign the sp to a long skill.

Thank you

Regards Junkie babe

Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises
Posted - 2010.06.28 19:57:00 - [87]
 

Maybe my understanding of the definition of "patch" is different than others' but this seems to be bigger than what I would expect from a patch.

Jack Coutu
Gallente
Percussive Diplomacy
The Phoenix. Consortium
Posted - 2010.06.28 20:08:00 - [88]
 

Originally by: Garreth Vlox
Originally by: Jack Coutu
No SP mention, no lag fixing, no actual constructive work done, just a patch pushed out for the sake of a patch?

Oh sorry I forgot, a new useless ship.

Guys, step up your game a little.

I'm wondering how stupid I can make myself look! Oh wait I figured it out.



FYP

Cfiloruz Xilocient
Amarr
Posted - 2010.06.28 20:09:00 - [89]
 

About the "removing learning skills" topic.
you all are quite excited about the SP compensation well i'm also but.
on my account that 4.4mil sp spent at quite early in game and little suffering in other development then it has made up its time by now and is worth investment paying me dividends every single minute.

what happens to our atributes after that? so i start to train at almosyt half speed what i'm doing now?

and p.s. that talk is totally offtopic.... wierd... :P

Casiella Truza
Ecliptic Rift
Posted - 2010.06.28 20:16:00 - [90]
 

Originally by: Myrr Starshine
Okay I'm not a computer whizz, but this seems kinda lacking...

These seem like maybe simple fixes someone spent maybe 10 - 20 hours on at most.

So I have to ask what did they spend the other 20-30 hours of the work week doing?

And what was everyone else doing?


OM NOM NOM troll tears.

It doesn't work like you think it works. But go back to your trolling, by all means.


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