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Esiel
Renegade Serenity
Posted - 2010.06.27 05:35:00 - [1]
 

I know I read in one of the news stories somewhere or perhaps it was a chronical or something that 1 ISK was worth alot more to NPC's than it was to a Capsuler. The idea was that we are able to pay our crews and other expenses so easily was because of this difference.

Basically what I am asking is if a Capsuler suddenly gave me 1 ISK what would that be worth me in modern money? Any ideas?

[readies for idiot replies about the value of the icelandic ISK or other trolls]

Julius Rigel
Sub-warp Racing Venture
Posted - 2010.06.27 05:39:00 - [2]
 

35 USD = 1 GTC = 2 PLEX = 600 million ISK

Roughly 6 cents per million ISK.

Is this what you're looking for?

Julienne Poirier
Gallente
Nonya Endeavours
Posted - 2010.06.27 05:41:00 - [3]
 

1 Icelandic króna = 0.0079 US dollars

Wet Ferret
Posted - 2010.06.27 05:55:00 - [4]
 

He's asking what an ISK is worth to the average person in-game.

Iamien
Democracy of Klingon Brothers
Posted - 2010.06.27 06:05:00 - [5]
 

Might want to ask this in the Fiction(Lore) part of the forum.


http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=channel&channelID=3524

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.06.27 06:22:00 - [6]
 

one unit of quafe = 132 gallons = 499 litres.

5449/499 = 10 'cents' a litre.

Coke is about a buck a litre so maybe 10:1 ratio.


Esiel
Renegade Serenity
Posted - 2010.06.27 06:27:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Cipher Jones
one unit of quafe = 132 gallons = 499 litres.

5449/499 = 10 'cents' a litre.

Coke is about a buck a litre so maybe 10:1 ratio.



Thanks Cipher that give me alot more to go with than what I was thinking.
The only thing left to wonder is if quafe = soda or vodka?

Ban Doga
Posted - 2010.06.27 06:57:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Esiel
Originally by: Cipher Jones
one unit of quafe = 132 gallons = 499 litres.

5449/499 = 10 'cents' a litre.

Coke is about a buck a litre so maybe 10:1 ratio.



Thanks Cipher that give me alot more to go with than what I was thinking.
The only thing left to wonder is if quafe = soda or vodka?


From the in-game description:
"Quafe is the name of the most popular soft drink in the universe..."

Saelie
Posted - 2010.06.27 07:45:00 - [9]
 

Yeah, but capsuleers get the bulk discount. Therefore, if they were like a real-life fast food outlet, they'd buy that Quafe at 10 cents a liter and turn around to sell it at a buck fifty.

Orion GUardian
Caldari
Posted - 2010.06.27 12:10:00 - [10]
 

So, you know that "quafe calculation"

1Unit of Quafe is 500kg, but only 100Litres! (Volume 0.1m³) which means the litre = 1$ and 0.1 ISK is kind of wrong. Think of it: How is Coke sold to Fast Food Vendors nowadays?

Its a powder or concentrated liquid that gets mixed with water. So....it would be FAR MORE than 10:1 ratio.

Musical Fist
Gallente
NAP Coalition
Posted - 2010.06.27 12:15:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Julienne Poirier
1 Icelandic króna = 0.0079 US dollars


Damn I was going to post this :(

Anyway its 0.0078 not 79 :P

Ehranavaar
Gallente
Posted - 2010.06.27 15:23:00 - [12]
 

try the ubiquitous shuttle. mass 1600 tonnes cost 10k or so. this is something 4x the size of a fully loaded 747 and probably just as complex since it includes a space drive and full life support.

it would also be somewhat larger than a typical offshore patrol vessel used by navies today. again not exactly a cheap item.

one of the chronicles quotes 20k isk as a quite respectable life savings for a middle class family.

relative pricing for isk is all over the map and really the only thing we know for sure is than an isk is a good multiple over planetary currency.

Alexas Kateiwa
Caldari
Aikoku Inc.
Revival Of The Talocan Empire
Posted - 2010.06.27 15:47:00 - [13]
 

Guys, you can't calculate it by Quafe or anything... The game is set thousands of years since now and the prices of water and other **** might have dropped or spiked.

Zaerlorth Maelkor
The Maverick Navy
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2010.06.27 16:35:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Alexas Kateiwa
Guys, you can't calculate it by Quafe or anything... The game is set thousands of years since now and the prices of water and other **** might have dropped or spiked.


Completely irrelevant to the discussion. Think about it...

Tom Peeping
Posted - 2010.06.27 17:28:00 - [15]
 

1 isk is worth 1

Joshua Calvert
Caldari
Rule One
Posted - 2010.06.27 17:35:00 - [16]
 

Not enough to pay British councils, that's what

Lifelongnoob
Caldari
The Motley Crew Reborn
Warped Aggression
Posted - 2010.06.27 17:36:00 - [17]
 

go there to find out

Xe Currency convertor

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.06.27 19:08:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Orion GUardian
So, you know that "quafe calculation"

1Unit of Quafe is 500kg, but only 100Litres! (Volume 0.1m³) which means the litre = 1$ and 0.1 ISK is kind of wrong. Think of it: How is Coke sold to Fast Food Vendors nowadays?

Its a powder or concentrated liquid that gets mixed with water. So....it would be FAR MORE than 10:1 ratio.


Were talking about quafe in a bottle vs coke in a bottle. 132 litres seems like a pallet. I got the weight conversion using water so its fairly close to accurate.

Yeah, the wholesale price of 132 litres of coke would probably be less than a litre you buy at the grocery store, which is why I estimated a buck. On other continents coke goes for up to $4USD for 375ml.

Aerilis
Gallente
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2010.06.27 20:19:00 - [19]
 

Most of the discussions I've seen on this put an ISK somewhere between 10-100 USD

Seifer Al'Masy
Adhocracy Incorporated
Posted - 2010.06.27 20:39:00 - [20]
 

Over 9000......

Nica Sofalot
Posted - 2010.06.27 22:25:00 - [21]
 

bout a buck seventy five

Lukriss
Caldari
Notorious Legion
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2010.06.27 22:30:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Cipher Jones
one unit of quafe = 132 gallons = 499 litres.

5449/499 = 10 'cents' a litre.

Coke is about a buck a litre so maybe 10:1 ratio.




Depends on where you're buying... In Denmark a .5 Litre bottle is 18.50DKK in 7/11, which is about 6 usd/litre

Teinyhr
Minmatar
A Club for Reputable Gentlemen
Posted - 2010.06.27 22:43:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Esiel
I know I read in one of the news stories somewhere or perhaps it was a chronical or something that 1 ISK was worth alot more to NPC's than it was to a Capsuler. The idea was that we are able to pay our crews and other expenses so easily was because of this difference.

Basically what I am asking is if a Capsuler suddenly gave me 1 ISK what would that be worth me in modern money? Any ideas?

[readies for idiot replies about the value of the icelandic ISK or other trolls]


About 2000 isk is enough to keep a normal person rolling in money for the rest of his/her life. 1 ISK is maybe like ~500 000 USD.

Bek Thyron
Posted - 2010.06.27 23:45:00 - [24]
 

'bout three fiddy

Abdiel Kavash
Caldari
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
Posted - 2010.06.28 06:37:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Teinyhr
Originally by: Esiel
I know I read in one of the news stories somewhere or perhaps it was a chronical or something that 1 ISK was worth alot more to NPC's than it was to a Capsuler. The idea was that we are able to pay our crews and other expenses so easily was because of this difference.

Basically what I am asking is if a Capsuler suddenly gave me 1 ISK what would that be worth me in modern money? Any ideas?

[readies for idiot replies about the value of the icelandic ISK or other trolls]


About 2000 isk is enough to keep a normal person rolling in money for the rest of his/her life. 1 ISK is maybe like ~500 000 USD.


I was just thinking about this yesterday, might as well join in the guessing. I have heard the above several times, any idea where does that fact come from?

Also, guessing according to starship prices is probably going to be way off, as we have no idea on the price of a FTL drive. Somewhat more accurate measures might be prices of some commodities: Quafe might be a good idea, how about some of the metals / gases? Also, PI structures: I imagine that those, at least on Temperate planets, should be about the price of, say, an oil refinery. Does anyone here got any clue on how much that would be in 2010 USD? Any lore experts here remember anything from the chroniccles that could shed some light into this?

One thing I am sort of expecting is a huge inconsistency, something like a block of steel being the same price as a starship... well, the prices weren't designed with that in regard.

superteds
Posted - 2010.06.28 07:12:00 - [26]
 

bout tree-fiddy

Ioci
Gallente
Space Mermaids
Posted - 2010.06.28 07:16:00 - [27]
 

If you saw a penny on the ground, would you pick it up?

I borked the riggings on a sniper ship this afternoon. Was out 18 mill. It bothered me oh, at least 18 seconds. So 1/1000000 of a second is what an ISK is worth to me I guess.

Aerilis
Gallente
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2010.06.28 09:11:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Ioci
If you saw a penny on the ground, would you pick it up?

I borked the riggings on a sniper ship this afternoon. Was out 18 mill. It bothered me oh, at least 18 seconds. So 1/1000000 of a second is what an ISK is worth to me I guess.


You make a million isk a second? Rolling Eyes

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.06.28 09:28:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Abdiel Kavash
PI structures: I imagine that those, at least on Temperate planets, should be about the price of, say, an oil refinery. Does anyone here got any clue on how much that would be in 2010 USD? Any lore experts here remember anything from the chroniccles that could shed some light into this?
Not a refinery but…

Google says: semi-submersible/deep off-shore oil rig – $400M. Figure out which extractor matches that and do the maths.

Teinyhr
Minmatar
A Club for Reputable Gentlemen
Posted - 2010.06.28 09:29:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Abdiel Kavash
I was just thinking about this yesterday, might as well join in the guessing. I have heard the above several times, any idea where does that fact come from?


Well I can't pinpoint it right now but I think it was in a chronicle or some of those prime fiction sources like books, where a pilot offered 2000 isk for each crewmember for some extraordinarily horrifyingly dangerous task, and someone remarked it was like five years salary planetside. So okay my original estimate was way high but it still is a LOT of money for planetary populations.


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