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Armi Tage
Caldari
Posted - 2004.12.15 11:47:00 - [1]
 

Please remove Station Warehouses/Vaults/Containers from Bonustables, they are neraly the only bonus I get from my SOE agent and are not useable in any way. True at some stations there may be a small need for them but i have already trashed a few dozen and still have a few dozen around. This station is not my base, has no reprocessing station (afaik they can't be reprocessed) and no need for them and I wont put up sell orders for them because every agentrunner at this station has some of them and does not need to buy more.

I want my trade goods back, they were a Bonus at least because I could sell them somewhere.

Put them at the NPC market so that anyone that wants some can buy them at the station where he needs them and the quantity he needs.

This topic may have been discussed already but I found nothing in the Subjects.

Theladon
Gallente
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2004.12.15 11:59:00 - [2]
 

Yup...can't move them to where they are needed, can't recykle them, and everyone in the same station as you are probably got ****loads aswell, so basicly you can't sell them.
And if you DO decide to use them for sorting the meager lootpickings you get nowadays, you have to go trough all that unlocking before you can do anything with the stuff in them..

Basicly...they suck..

Have a nice day of missionrunning.

Azur
Amarr
Pelican.
Violent Entity
Posted - 2004.12.15 12:29:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Azur on 15/12/2004 12:31:47
I do alot of missions but I haven't seen one of these as a reward yet. Must be sensitive to corp or agent. My normal Agent is Amarr Navy L3, Internal Security.

Chepe Nolon
Gallente
Inquest
Posted - 2004.12.15 14:17:00 - [4]
 

I've gotten a few from the the story line missions. I sell them for 100 isk each, just to feel I get something, and they are used by someone. If they later recycle for something like 1M, I wouldn't feel too screwed though.

As for getting them at corp hq, they are most welcome though.

Jonas Bane
Red Hammer Industries
Posted - 2004.12.15 14:26:00 - [5]
 

Almost wish there was a dialog option like "Thanks, I already have 50 of those. I'll just take the cash." =)

Alasse Cuthalion
Reikoku
Posted - 2004.12.15 15:35:00 - [6]
 

nooooo, they're MEGA handy! :( Tidied up my hangar since I got given 8 of them.

Station vaults need love!



DB Preacher
Reikoku
KenZoku
Posted - 2004.12.15 16:02:00 - [7]
 

It would be nice if they did a simple check first..

If someone already has 1 of the massive containers and 10 of the smaller ones then don't give anymore.

Or something...

dbp

RL Malcontent
Posted - 2004.12.15 16:34:00 - [8]
 

I wish they would make these movable in some way. I could really use these at our corp office but as things are now there is simply no way to get them there and the 110 station containers and 11 station vaults I have are WORTHLESS at my agents station. To make matter worse I can't even buy station containers at our corp from other players since we are based at a DED station and CCP still can't seem to work out allowing players to work for DED and there are no containers smaller than station warehouses on the market in our station. I do have a couple of ideas however.

1) Make these containers movable while they are packaged. There shouldn't be an issue with this since the containers can't be used in any way while packaged.

2) If for some reason there is a worry that by allowing players to move the cans while packaged, Rolling Eyes then how about an NPC moving option much like transferring our clones from one station to another? I'd be more than happy to pay a small fee to move my containers where they would actually be of some use.

How about it CCP?

Synthemesc
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2004.12.15 16:57:00 - [9]
 

Yeah I've got 60 of these things now. But at least it gives me somewhere to put all that toxic waste and fertilizer I guess.

Forsaken Priest
Equitatus Of Apocalypse
Maru Ka'ge
Posted - 2004.12.15 18:57:00 - [10]
 

Lord almighty, it's not like lev 2 agent missions are all that rewarding in the first place (though they are fun for me), but come on. I've taken to getting so creative with these things that I now have seperate cans for individual items. 250mm....150mm....Engy skillpacks, Gunnery skillpacks....just to make myself believe there is a point to doing a mission where I'll get more. I know I work for the Caldari Navy and it is common tradition for the military to pass on surplus equipment as payment for a 'job well done' and think I'll just take it with a smile on my face (which in writing this I'm getting one cuz I'm just being a turd and I know it), I still go out drinking with the boys and throw them in the campfire....

Elita
Gallente
Two Brothers Mining Corp.
Miners With Attitude
Posted - 2004.12.15 20:54:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: RL Malcontent
I wish they would make these movable in some way.


When Titans make their appearance, it seems that their pilots will have permanent jobs moving station containers around. Smile

...if they can fit even in a Titan.

Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Naraka.
Posted - 2004.12.15 20:59:00 - [12]
 

Please Dont. I have a lvl 2 agent at my corp HQ wich drops em. Very handy Smile

Nelisa
Posted - 2004.12.15 21:29:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Please Dont. I have a lvl 2 agent at my corp HQ wich drops em. Very handy Smile


The point is though that not all stations have them and not all HQs are at stations with agents that drop them.

Hence why we dont really want them taken completely away.. just a way to move the dang things to somewhere useful to us.

USSBlade
Caldari
The Necros
Posted - 2004.12.15 22:33:00 - [14]
 

Station vaults, warehouses, ect ect NEED to be able to be "looked into" from remote places, otherwise they are just like having abunch of regular containers, that you DONT have to unlock when you want something out of it.

Blade

Zeaia
Posted - 2004.12.15 22:45:00 - [15]
 

How about another alternative QuestionQuestion and supposing that CCP can accomodate this :

How about instead of having these massive things just drop as agent rewards wherever your agent happens to be located.... how about the agents instead give out a "voucher" for these (or multiple vouchers).

Then the people who have gotten these "vouchers" (may appear as a kind of single run BP -- or even multiple runs) for these station warehouses would be able to transport them to whatever station location they have an office in (or where ever they like) and be turn-in the "voucher" ( or right-click and "build" ) and they'd have their permanent warehouse "appear" in their hangar??? People could also "sell" or "trade" these vouchers (put them on escrow or even the regular market).

They are useful in multiple senses (if only to prevent things from being accidentally recycled) and I would also hate to see them go.... but I agree that the "usefullness" depends on the ability for people to be able to place them where they can USE them. As it stands, the inability of moving the "reward" to a home base is the limiting factor... and it is a severe limitationExclamation


Originally by: Armi Tage
Please remove Station Warehouses/Vaults/Containers from Bonustables, they are neraly the only bonus I get from my SOE agent and are not useable in any way. True at some stations there may be a small need for them but i have already trashed a few dozen and still have a few dozen around. This station is not my base, has no reprocessing station (afaik they can't be reprocessed) and no need for them and I wont put up sell orders for them because every agentrunner at this station has some of them and does not need to buy more.

I want my trade goods back, they were a Bonus at least because I could sell them somewhere.

Put them at the NPC market so that anyone that wants some can buy them at the station where he needs them and the quantity he needs.

This topic may have been discussed already but I found nothing in the Subjects.

Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Naraka.
Posted - 2004.12.15 22:47:00 - [16]
 

Making em refinable solves everything Wink

Sc0rpion
Faster Pussycat Kill Kill
Posted - 2004.12.15 23:01:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Making em refinable solves everything Wink


*SIGNED*

My corp has dozens of these things laying around HQ. Can't do a thing with them!

Slithereen
Amarr
Posted - 2004.12.16 04:51:00 - [18]
 


** SIGNED **

Signature endorsed and behalf on part of the SOCIETY FOR THE RETURN OF COMMON SENSE IN EVE MISSION DESIGN.


RL Malcontent
Posted - 2004.12.16 06:35:00 - [19]
 

Actually making them an item that can be reporcessed doesn't solve the problem either. Not every station has a reprocess facilty. My agents station for example... Confused

I do like the voucher idea however that doesn't move my dozens and dozens at my agents station either.

Josef Ciaphus
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2004.12.16 08:13:00 - [20]
 

Make them recyclable plse. I don't mind hauling the ores somewhere else.


Soulscream
Posted - 2004.12.16 15:55:00 - [21]
 

Only two things are really needed, and they are already touched on in this tread:

1) Make these station storage units movable (voucher from the Agent to have it "delivered" to where the voucher is cashed in was a gread idea).

2) Drop the percentage for when station storage units are given as a bonus.

I am only capable of running level 1 agent missions myself. I have two agents I work with for the Sarum Family, and both are at 100% of bonuses giving station containers to me. That just seems downright wrong, especially when I have run over 20 missions each with the same result.

Maybe it's just a racial thing. I saw a Minmatar battleship the other day that looked like a few dozen station containers welded together…

Armi Tage
Caldari
Posted - 2004.12.17 10:20:00 - [22]
 

I don't get any of them from my Lai Dai Agent, because Lai Dai offers many different items as Bonus and i had to buy some to organize my stuffe but SOE only have Polytextiles, Antibiotics and the station thingys, guess what you get most of the time. Also no reprocessingplant at that station.

Simply remove them from the bonustables and put them into the normal NPC market, every corp sells them regarding to the corp info on the HP, why not change it that way. The peeps that need some can buy them from NPCs at the station where they want them.

CCP Zrakor

Posted - 2004.12.17 11:33:00 - [23]
 

This is in our Defect Tracking system, has been idle for a bit. I expect it to be fixed soonish. These station containers should not be given out as a bonus reward.

Uggster
Caldari
FinFleet
KenZoku
Posted - 2004.12.17 12:13:00 - [24]
 

So does this mean that they will be "removed" if this is patched/fixed or could we find ourselves sitting on next years "Harvesters" Laughing

RL Malcontent
Posted - 2004.12.17 16:38:00 - [25]
 

Zrakor, I'm glad to hear they are being removed but is there any chance of CCP coming up with a solution to get these containers movable in one way or another so that players can actually use them since they have been given as rewards or should we just trash them and be rid of them?

Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Naraka.
Posted - 2004.12.17 18:45:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Zrakor
This is in our Defect Tracking system, has been idle for a bit. I expect it to be fixed soonish. These station containers should not be given out as a bonus reward.

NOOOOOOOOOO Crying or Very sad

Jack Strait
Dark Moon Enterprises
Posted - 2004.12.17 19:02:00 - [27]
 

How about making them as agent offers? That way those who want them can take them and those who don't can decline them.

Tau Stone
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2004.12.17 23:04:00 - [28]
 

Edited by: Tau Stone on 17/12/2004 23:05:03
Make them pilotable (but unable to scoop objects in space, so people don't haul on mining ops with them)Wink

At least then we could move them to where they would be useful (i.e. stations with a corp office/hangar)

Lefia
Gallente
CONsordium Infinate
Posted - 2004.12.19 07:31:00 - [29]
 

I like having station containers/vaults/warehouses as rewards but I would perfer 3 things done with them that have been said.

-Make them not appear as often

-Make them reprocessable (even if they only refine for trit there are uses for large amounts of trit)

-Make them portable from station to station (the waiver idea I like personally, or even release some BPOs on the market/research agents)

If they are removed from missions completely, then there either needs to be a way to move them, or they need to be offered at every station so that I can purchase them as I need them (They are great for organizing my cargo hold).

Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2004.12.19 11:09:00 - [30]
 

I just want to be able to repackage them, and sell them to npcs, is that too much to ask ? :(

I don't have a refinery where I do missions, doh, sucks to be me.


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