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Sakura Imoru
Posted - 2010.06.26 15:55:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Haeldone Dorgiers
Originally by: Julianus Soter
That facility is a Jovian station.


I cannot speak any further on the matter at this time other than to confirm it as Prosper Vault, 3-CE1R.

I would caution you against hubris, capsuleers. The size of the fleet is not the point of primary concern.


Well, either the Sanshas have heavily modified Prosper Vault or our database-entry regarding that station is far out of date. It's listed as a station of Gallente design, Class 3 to be exact

jdok
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2010.06.26 16:12:00 - [32]
 

I'd love to get my hands on one of those nightmares.

Er, I mean, oh no, we are doomed!

syrus mac
Posted - 2010.06.26 19:27:00 - [33]
 

I don't hold out much hope for myself but as a member of the Gallente Federation who values freedom above all else, as do my Federation peers, i'd like to do all i can to help.
Are Concord operating a public channel where we can be advised of any incursions into Empire space?
And is there currently any technology that can detect which systems are going to be breached in advance?

Enjintou
Volatile Nature
Systematic-Chaos
Posted - 2010.06.26 19:58:00 - [34]
 

Has anyone stopped to consider that the lack of a response from the jove could mean they've been eliminated, through military force, or more likely the genetic plague that the majority of them were suffering from when they first left the core of new-eden?

and furthermore, the implications of such a development.

speaking as one, not for the many.

Raidal
Posted - 2010.06.26 19:58:00 - [35]
 

I can already feel the 'ouch'

Rainus Max
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.06.26 20:18:00 - [36]
 

An interesting development if the Sansha's have succeed in entering Jovian space. The level of Technology they could now have access concerns me.

To those capsuleers that think this fleet is not much of a concern may I remind you the damage the Elder fleet did with only 3 titans and their supporting fleets. Many believe that if Sarum had not intervened the Amarr Empire may have been totally defeated.

Lolion Reglo
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.06.26 20:40:00 - [37]
 

It sounds like my friends more information is needed regarding the movements of these Sansha hoard fleets. I fancy myself a free pilot and don't wish to become enslaved by these ravenous fools so i am offering my assistance into this fight. Now what can one person do you say? Well i have considerable skill in infiltrating systems and past secure gate camps. i.e. I can provide numbers, locations, movements as well as other forms of Intel by just watching the enemy. all i need is information as to where i need to go and i can be there within a few days to report back constant Intel on this considerable fleet.

CaptCole
Posted - 2010.06.26 20:56:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Mouse Nell

Look, i count... 3 titans.


Personally i can see 4 Titans 3 Avatars, And 1 Ragnarok 4 Moros, And the vertical ships at the rear looks to me like 7 Caldari Wyvern, and 30+ of Caldari chimera's
But thats just me any new photos il like to see

Thanks

mindfreaktoo
Posted - 2010.06.26 20:56:00 - [39]
 

jesus christ,and how long have they been hiding like this?!
is this goes on for longer and the fleet doubles or..god forbid triples..that will be a very bad thing if it gets larger and the decide to have some fun and make a coordinated move on a system,i can say just from this ( and yes i realize im still new, only a few months into the game ) i am honestly scared of wat is going to be happening in the next few months. especially if they are in ways connected to the joves,that will mean very bad things if they are..

Bazax
Minmatar
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2010.06.26 21:10:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Rainus Max
An interesting development if the Sansha's have succeed in entering Jovian space. The level of Technology they could now have access concerns me.
To those capsuleers that think this fleet is not much of a concern may I remind you the damage the Elder fleet did with only 3 titans and their supporting fleets. Many believe that if Sarum had not intervened the Amarr Empire may have been totally defeated.



Amarr should have been wiped out .. but i agree if they have thos so called jove tech then we could be in for some rough times if they use all that to invade any system we would stand little to no chance but we will have to try and stop this mad man

Shak'Rah
Garoun Investment Bank
Posted - 2010.06.26 21:16:00 - [41]
 

hmm.... i wonder how one might go about capturing that battlestation.... i shall hereby make that my personal goal, the capturing of that battlestation. who wants to race and see who can get it first?

may the games begin Twisted Evil

Laughlyn Vaughns
Gallente
Lagos-Vaughn Industries
Posted - 2010.06.26 21:20:00 - [42]
 

Theres only ones solid fact i can think of at the moment and that is, if the sansha force decides to make an attack on the empires, then every capsuleer will sure to be there to give em hell :D

Cyphris
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2010.06.26 21:21:00 - [43]
 

"Don't keep all of your egg's in one basket"

Looks like a staging area to me. One of many I am willing to wager. The individual fleets are not the issue. The issue is when those staging fleets converge and you end up with a force 10+ times this size.

Also, it's not to hard to believe Nation have reverse engineered Jovian technology. Expect to see Jovian equipment and resources mixed amongst the other races on future battlefields.

Now my question to you is this. What has been setup to counter this threat as it appears? If there are chat rooms available, please let me know via chat invite.

Zel Nughat
Amarr
Nughat Corp
Posted - 2010.06.26 21:24:00 - [44]
 

Interesting, we might even have a chance of scoring some new jovian tech from the dead cold hands of the sansha nation

Bazax
Minmatar
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2010.06.26 21:53:00 - [45]
 

i rather have a jove ship

FeralShadow
NME1
Posted - 2010.06.26 21:57:00 - [46]
 

Has anybody considered concord may have been infiltrated by the Broker himself? Who knows if he's still alive! Tales were telling his DNA clones were degenerating, but maybe he found a way to stabilize it. Who else could possibly link Kuvakei to Jove/Sleeper weaponry?

Bazax
Minmatar
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2010.06.26 21:59:00 - [47]
 

the broker? oh great but that does link to limited concord handling of this

CaptCole
Posted - 2010.06.26 22:14:00 - [48]
 

Yes if anyone has a chat open about this discussion please can i have a invite

Funky Munk
Posted - 2010.06.26 22:17:00 - [49]
 

Thought it was pretty clear that the broker died.

You know, it could be that the Jovians have assumed control of Sansha's Nation and are using it to finally eradicate the Amarrians. Imagine, turn all of Amarr into Sansha's zombies, then just turn them off. Order them to shut down! hahahaha Bye bye, slavers!

Lolion Reglo
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.06.26 22:19:00 - [50]
 

what ever the case is what is the channel the coordination effort is discussed in? i Would also like an invite to this channel. i have considerable resources i can bring to bear on this threat.

Oukiri
Posted - 2010.06.26 22:24:00 - [51]
 

Edited by: Oukiri on 26/06/2010 22:24:05
lol sounds fun

Funky Munk
Posted - 2010.06.26 22:24:00 - [52]
 

The Minmatar, as a nation, may want to consider the possibities and implications of standing up to fight on the side of the Sanshas. The Gallente as well, truth be told. At the very least, strike hard at the heart of Amarr while they are weakened and distracted by this other threat. The Sanshas we can deal with later, the are no match for Minmatar, let alone the Elder Fleet. The Amarr are far more dangerous a threat. Thukker Victor!

Black Lister
Gallente
The Praxis Initiative
Gentlemen's Agreement
Posted - 2010.06.26 22:30:00 - [53]
 

Edited by: Black Lister on 26/06/2010 22:30:43
I wouldn't be surprised if this was the Jovian's long thought-out revenge for Amarr's assault on them so long ago. That would also explain Amarr's immediate response in preperation for their attack. The Jovians are only using Sansha's Nation. Their low population number prevent them from engaging in any prolonged conflict. Why use your own troops if you can use some weak minded fool's?

Bazax
Minmatar
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2010.06.26 22:31:00 - [54]
 

Edited by: Bazax on 26/06/2010 22:31:15
well said but from the intel gathered there was an amarr titan there they are likely to be working together with the nation

Surrah
Supra Tenetur
Posted - 2010.06.26 23:37:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: Haeldone Dorgiers
Originally by: Julianus Soter
That facility is a Jovian station.


I cannot speak any further on the matter at this time other than to confirm it as Prosper Vault, 3-CE1R.

I would caution you against hubris, capsuleers. The size of the fleet is not the point of primary concern.


The point of primary concern is that the Jove and Nation are working together. You should prepare yourself Haeldone, as your organization CONCORD is likely controlled at the very top by the Jove as well. Its only a matter of time before CONCORD's beacons "Fail" or are "worked around" and Nation is able to DD in low sec and Launch fighters in Hi Sec. Even Capsuleers can't stand against CONCORD.

Black Lister
Gallente
The Praxis Initiative
Gentlemen's Agreement
Posted - 2010.06.26 23:41:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: Bazax
Edited by: Bazax on 26/06/2010 22:31:15
well said but from the intel gathered there was an amarr titan there they are likely to be working together with the nation


Its not impossible to steal/copy technology. As you can see their is a ship from every faction in that fleet. If what you said is true, then aren't they all in a conspiracy against... themselves?

neuroticdax
Caldari
Volition Cult
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2010.06.26 23:43:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: CaptCole
Yes if anyone has a chat open about this discussion please can i have a invite


ditto plz

Neu Bastian
Minmatar
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2010.06.26 23:49:00 - [58]
 

It seems to me like there's at least one Ragnarök behind the last Avatar. It also looks as if that's the only piece of Minmatar technology in the fleet.

Pack neuts, they will come in handy.

FeralShadow
NME1
Posted - 2010.06.26 23:52:00 - [59]
 

I would like an invite as well.

But also, weren't the amarr pretty decisively defeated by the Jovians? If they Jovians wanted to use Nation to take out Amarr, I'm sure they could have done such without abducting people off of planets to change them into Sansha "zombies". At any rate, I don't believe the Amarr as a whole civilization should be eradicated. There are always those within the Empire that don't ascribe to slavery, and those who are completely innocent of any wrongdoing. Now.. the Holders and the Overlords.. That may be a different story.

-FeralShadow

neuroticdax
Caldari
Volition Cult
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2010.06.26 23:55:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: Black Lister
Originally by: Bazax
Edited by: Bazax on 26/06/2010 22:31:15
well said but from the intel gathered there was an amarr titan there they are likely to be working together with the nation


Its not impossible to steal/copy technology. As you can see their is a ship from every faction in that fleet. If what you said is true, then aren't they all in a conspiracy against... themselves?


with that in mind it is not intirely improbbable that the sanshas may have access to the same wepons that empress jamyl's abbadon was fitted with and if not the wepon itself perhaps the data relating to how to create or perfect such a device


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