open All Channels
seplocked Corporation, Alliance and Organization Discussions
blankseplocked 6NJ
 
This thread is older than 90 days and has been locked due to inactivity.


 
Pages: first : previous : ... 19 20 21 22 [23] 24 25 26 27 : last (27)

Author Topic

Botia Macracantha
Minmatar
Volition Cult
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2010.06.22 19:14:00 - [661]
 

Thx for the tip to read the scrapheap report. This from the non-NC scout :

"... First change came around 18.50 as I was doing new safespots all around system : cyno up and blues jumping in and/or logging in. Local soon rised to 569,..."

So first numbers escalation was from the non-NC side jumping into what was to that point a BS engagement it sounds like. Following that escalation, NC try to make a decisive counter move - game fails. I've underlined the part that relates to my earlier question, which i guess is answered.

Anyway, I wasn't looking for a troll fest - main point of my post was that the game is reduced to "he who loads first wins". Neither side can restrain the urge to escalate when it gets suddenly outnumbered - seems natural to me, and not an NC-only tactic as your scout's report affirms.

To the other guy - If you aren't interested, don't post.

As for me, my curiosity is satisfied, thank-you.

Crucifier
Caldari
Gank Bangers
Moar Tears
Posted - 2010.06.22 19:21:00 - [662]
 

Originally by: Botia Macracantha
Thx for the tip to read the scrapheap report. This from the non-NC scout :

"... First change came around 18.50 as I was doing new safespots all around system : cyno up and blues jumping in and/or logging in. Local soon rised to 569,..."

So first numbers escalation was from the non-NC side jumping into what was to that point a BS engagement it sounds like. Following that escalation, NC try to make a decisive counter move - game fails. I've underlined the part that relates to my earlier question, which i guess is answered.

Anyway, I wasn't looking for a troll fest - main point of my post was that the game is reduced to "he who loads first wins". Neither side can restrain the urge to escalate when it gets suddenly outnumbered - seems natural to me, and not an NC-only tactic as your scout's report affirms.

To the other guy - If you aren't interested, don't post.

As for me, my curiosity is satisfied, thank-you.


I refuse to believe a member of my species can be that mentally handicapped. NC supercaps were loaded before WN supercaps jumped in. That's the only thing that matters in that engagement.

Marlona Sky
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.06.22 20:24:00 - [663]
 


Sextus Licinius
Caldari
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.06.22 20:25:00 - [664]
 

Pointless to talk about who loaded or not. After 15-25 mins we were bridged in, we had to relog and a few of us managed to load, only to not be able to target anything, even if i could control my ship, moving and warping around fine.
Never experienced this kind of "lag" or whatever that was before.

PCaBoo
Caldari
Ammo and Tag
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
Posted - 2010.06.23 08:59:00 - [665]
 

Must be some epic investigating.ugh

Snot Shot
Minmatar
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
The 0rphanage
Posted - 2010.06.24 15:06:00 - [666]
 

I think CCP is hoping we all forget about thisRolling Eyes

PCaBoo
Caldari
Ammo and Tag
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
Posted - 2010.06.24 18:15:00 - [667]
 

Originally by: Snot Shot
I think CCP is hoping we all forget about thisRolling Eyes


CCC

Metal Dude
Gallente
Destructive Influence
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.06.24 23:11:00 - [668]
 

Originally by: GM Grimmi
During the fleet-battle in 6NJ8-V on June 16th server performance was adversely affected by load issues. One of the resulting problems was the revival of ships that had been killed during the fight, including a few super-capitals. We want to clarify that this was due to database issues, which are still under investigation the ships were NOT returned by GameMasters. This matter is still being investigated and further information will be forthcoming when available.


Well? We are still waiting? What's the deal? Are you going to let your NC GM buddies keep the titans or what?

Facepalm
Amarr
Battlestars
Posted - 2010.06.24 23:18:00 - [669]
 

Geez these BoB guys sure want to be able to call someone else out on "GM misconduct" issues. I wonder why...

Marlona Sky
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.06.24 23:32:00 - [670]
 

Edited by: Marlona Sky on 24/06/2010 23:32:35
Relax guys. It was a bug(s) that caused <insert whatever fits your spin here> and they are trying to figure out what. It is a lose lose situation for CCP right now. If they remove them NC + all supports of NC will scream that SC has DEVs working for them. If they stay then SC + all supports of NC will scream that NC has DEVs working for them.

Why would anyone be in a rush to face that mess?

PCaBoo
Caldari
Ammo and Tag
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
Posted - 2010.06.25 00:36:00 - [671]
 

Originally by: Marlona Sky
Edited by: Marlona Sky on 24/06/2010 23:32:35
Relax guys. It was a bug(s) that caused <insert whatever fits your spin here> and they are trying to figure out what. It is a lose lose situation for CCP right now. If they remove them NC + all supports of NC will scream that SC has DEVs working for them. If they stay then SC + all supports of NC will scream that NC has DEVs working for them.

Why would anyone be in a rush to face that mess?


I think it's better to **** off half of eve or the other, rather than enrage us all. :p

IronGoldenEagle
Caldari
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2010.06.25 01:59:00 - [672]
 

This thread is now about Brett Farve

and Tim Teebow

Marlona Sky
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.06.25 02:00:00 - [673]
 

Originally by: PCaBoo
Originally by: Marlona Sky
Edited by: Marlona Sky on 24/06/2010 23:32:35
Relax guys. It was a bug(s) that caused <insert whatever fits your spin here> and they are trying to figure out what. It is a lose lose situation for CCP right now. If they remove them NC + all supports of NC will scream that SC has DEVs working for them. If they stay then SC + all supports of NC will scream that NC has DEVs working for them.

Why would anyone be in a rush to face that mess?


I think it's better to **** off half of eve or the other, rather than enrage us all. :p


NC are not enraged at the moment. They have the ships that are under investigation and are using them daily. They are in no rush for an answer on the possibility they are taken away.

My guess is CCP has the answer already. Right now they are trying to come up with a careful way to present the results to the players to have the least possible rage at them.

For anyone that would like a smiley presentation on current and past events on this, please see below:

Before Fight
NC: Twisted Evil
SC: Twisted Evil

NC Jumps Into Trap
NC: Shocked
SC: Very Happy

NC Loses Supercaps
NC: Crying or Very sad
SC: Laughing

Right after DT
NC: Shocked Laughing
SC: Shocked Mad
CCP: Embarassed

Hope everyone is up to speed now.

Ishbu
Gallente
KIA Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2010.06.25 02:26:00 - [674]
 

Edited by: Ishbu on 25/06/2010 02:28:11

Originally by: Marlona Sky


For anyone that would like a smiley presentation on current and past events on this, please see below:

Before Fight
NC: Twisted Evil
SC: Twisted Evil

NC Jumps Into Trap
NC: Shocked
SC: Very Happy

NC Jumps Most SuperCaps out to emergency Cynos leaving some to die
NC: Cool
SC: Cool

NC Loses All Supercaps, even those that jumped out to a new system
NC: Crying or Very sad
SC: Laughing

Right after DT
NC: Shocked Laughing
SC: Shocked Mad
CCP: Arrow server logs show.... wait a min wtfExclamationQuestionExclamation

Hope everyone is up to speed now.


*fixed it for you :P

Anikadir
Minmatar
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
Posted - 2010.06.25 06:22:00 - [675]
 

So I take that if you lose your SC or Titan to a lagfest (or any other ship for that matter), you can now file a petition and ask for it to be reimbursed as the precedent has been set by NC getting theirs back, no questions asked Laughing

I remember how well SWG went when they started slowly removing the death penalties, and what a classic, well populated game that turned out to be Rolling Eyes

Spyra Gryra
Amarr
Cruoris Seraphim
Exalted.
Posted - 2010.06.25 06:27:00 - [676]
 

Originally by: Anikadir
So I take that if you lose your SC or Titan to a lagfest (or any other ship for that matter), you can now file a petition and ask for it to be reimbursed as the precedent has been set by NC getting theirs back, no questions asked Laughing

I remember how well SWG went when they started slowly removing the death penalties, and what a classic, well populated game that turned out to be Rolling Eyes


Crying or Very sadCrying or Very sadCrying or Very sad

Tyby
Gallente
Nex Exercitus
Raiden.
Posted - 2010.06.25 06:59:00 - [677]
 

heh, enjoy your new titans NC! Evil or Very Mad

Lord TGR
Minmatar
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.06.25 07:32:00 - [678]
 

Originally by: Anikadir
So I take that if you lose your SC or Titan to a lagfest (or any other ship for that matter), you can now file a petition and ask for it to be reimbursed as the precedent has been set by NC getting theirs back, no questions asked Laughing

So what are you doing to entice CCP to do something about the root cause of this whole situation? Just whine about how NC "cheated"?

That's clever.

Marlona Sky
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.06.25 07:54:00 - [679]
 

Originally by: Anikadir
So I take that if you lose your SC or Titan to a lagfest (or any other ship for that matter), you can now file a petition and ask for it to be reimbursed as the precedent has been set by NC getting theirs back, no questions asked Laughing


First of all, the GM specifically stated they were not returned by a GM. Second of all, questions are being asked and CCP are investigating.

Lord TGR
Minmatar
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.06.25 11:16:00 - [680]
 

Originally by: Marlona Sky
First of all, the GM specifically stated they were not returned by a GM. Second of all, questions are being asked and CCP are investigating.

Still waiting. :P

IronGoldenEagle
Caldari
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2010.06.25 13:44:00 - [681]
 

Brett Favre ahd to undergo surgery, but not to his throwing arm, so he should be good for another year. Still age, and an increased lack of mobility won't help the Vikings get anywhere near the NC Championship again.

Denver is kinda bad now and I doubt Teebow will help with that. Alot say his style isn't suited for the NFL and they may be right, but I'm willing to give him a shot and see if Denver does what Florida did and rebuilds the team around his unique style of play.

Robert Ger
Caldari
WEPRA CORP
White Noise.
Posted - 2010.06.25 16:23:00 - [682]
 

ok-- alot of nc tears sc tears...
and some good stuff...

look, and think again, in large battles, u hav some times the problem, that u reload guns but they did not load, only ammo was used.. next
in big battles sometimes, u mwds out and got pwnzed u fly anyways away, but u saw ur ship wreck, yes a ghostship
next, the caps ships jumped? why without the destroyed mods ?
thats all speak for dead ships, and for old dominion bug, so delete the ghost ships, and pls fix this :)

dead titans are dead, like the wrecks

Kra Torii
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2010.06.25 17:35:00 - [683]
 

Originally by: Robert Ger
ok-- alot of nc tears sc tears...
and some good stuff...

look, and think again, in large battles, u hav some times the problem, that u reload guns but they did not load, only ammo was used.. next
in big battles sometimes, u mwds out and got pwnzed u fly anyways away, but u saw ur ship wreck, yes a ghostship
next, the caps ships jumped? why without the destroyed mods ?
thats all speak for dead ships, and for old dominion bug, so delete the ghost ships, and pls fix this :)

dead titans are dead, like the wrecks


I'm going to hazard a guess and say English isn't your first language.

I understand what you're saying about the guns not cycling, and I have no idea if the recent server move has helped anything, but still.

The GM stated that nothing was returned by them, yet things still appeared in space after downtime.

I honestly don't know why there is still a debate over this, it's been GM verified and both sides lost/won something here.

Move on people! Smile

Agent Known
Caldari
Night Theifs
Apotheosis of Virtue
Posted - 2010.06.26 00:02:00 - [684]
 

I always thought loading the system didn't matter...it was loading grid when you landed. It's one thing when you jump into a full grid, but it's a similar lag issue when you warp into one.

The whole duping thing was probably a conflict between the nodes on whether or not the ships actually cynoed our correctly. Since there is a session change when you cyno, we can assume the server is "handing off" your session to another node. If the sending node never gets a response saying "session loaded here, trash yours" due to lag, you have ghost ships. I know some MMOs also have client-side item caching which makes it easy to "fake" dupes, but it doesn't really apply in this case.

Anyway....*grabs some popcorn and Quafe*

Toko Baru
Minmatar
Kleinrock Heavy Industries
The Laughing Men
Posted - 2010.06.26 19:07:00 - [685]
 

Originally by: Marlona Sky
For anyone that would like a smiley presentation on current and past events on this, please see below:

Before Fight
NC: Twisted Evil
SC: Twisted Evil

NC Jumps Into Trap
NC: Shocked
SC: Very Happy

NC Loses Supercaps
NC: Crying or Very sad
SC: Laughing

Right after DT
NC: Shocked Laughing
SC: Shocked Mad
CCP: Embarassed

Hope everyone is up to speed now.


That's funny Laughing btw great make smiles it mate Wink

Fred0
Caldari
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2010.06.26 19:30:00 - [686]
 

Honestly Robert Ger, you can't have been there because your view of reality is so far away from anything I've encountered before.

Quote:
cei-fred0: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1337682&page=23#682 - what a genius
rawr-sala-cameron: Robert Ger is probably the biggest german ****** in the game you can find :p
rawr-sala-cameron: well I actually don't know if he's german
rawr-sala-cameron: because his english is better than his german actually
rawr-imperian: he is, and all germans hate him.
rawr-imperian: literally

PCaBoo
Caldari
Ammo and Tag
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
Posted - 2010.06.26 21:33:00 - [687]
 

I guess they get to keep them. Otherwise, there's probably an even bigger headache from the people who have been killed by those supercaps since the incident happened.

GJ CCP.

Marlona Sky
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.06.27 02:30:00 - [688]
 

10 days now CCP. Any updates on the incident?

Lord TGR
Minmatar
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.06.27 13:40:00 - [689]
 

I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. The players aren't making enough of a stink about it, so it's probably just being quietly ignored.

I'll happily be proven wrong, though.

PCaBoo
Caldari
Ammo and Tag
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
Posted - 2010.06.27 15:47:00 - [690]
 

Originally by: Lord TGR
I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. The players aren't making enough of a stink about it, so it's probably just being quietly ignored.

I'll happily be proven wrong, though.

So their strategy of ignore it til it goes away works again. =\


Pages: first : previous : ... 19 20 21 22 [23] 24 25 26 27 : last (27)

This thread is older than 90 days and has been locked due to inactivity.


 


The new forums are live

Please adjust your bookmarks to https://forums.eveonline.com

These forums are archived and read-only