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Snot Shot
Minmatar
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
The 0rphanage
Posted - 2010.06.18 17:56:00 - [481]
 


Ok…….so what all this boils down to is there are 2 stages to Fleet fights now?

1. If you have Fleet fight where C&SCs are “destroyed” and wrecks looted you must….

2. Wait until after DT, control multiple hostile systems with cyno beacons, and scan down all the floating Super Caps you destroyed so you can board them or maybe destroy them again?


Can CCP have two types of KMs generated now? The first being if the ship was actually destroyed and the second being that it’s not destroyed yet “but if you go to system XXX after DT you can try board or destroy it”...Wink

If this is a new game mechanic I am going to train up for Titans so I can follow Fleet fights around and claim floating Super Caps each DT!!!YARRRR!!

Lord TGR
Minmatar
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.06.18 17:58:00 - [482]
 

Originally by: Marlona Sky
Wasn't the original purpose of the CSM when it was first incarnated to keep checks on such things so there is no more things ala T20 scandal stuff.

I am sure the CSM will rise to the occasion and have an unbiased approach to this new development.

Wait... isn't Vuk on the CSM?... oh shi..

Christ, this is getting bad. CSM is supposed to be for bringing suggestions and issues from the players to CCP. What you're thinking of is more likely to be IA, or Internal Affairs.

Your tinfoil hat is getting pretty oversized.

Dank Man
Minmatar
FinFleet
Raiden.
Posted - 2010.06.18 17:59:00 - [483]
 

Edited by: Dank Man on 18/06/2010 18:02:32
lets all agree to show up to mass testing on tuesday. at least 500-1000 of us =D.

i understand NCs frustration with losing ships that had jumped out, but what about the people who were attacking those ships and had no idea they jumped out and subsequently lost their ships... ROL WN and team risked their assets to attack and destroy NC assets, does not seem fair that NC would benefit from replaced ships when all the attackers get left out to dry, what the point...

Ilsea
Minmatar
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.06.18 17:59:00 - [484]
 

Edited by: Ilsea on 18/06/2010 18:02:09
Originally by: Eklykti
Originally by: GM Grimmi
During the fleet-battle in 6NJ8-V on June 16th server performance was adversely affected by load issues. One of the resulting problems was the revival of ships that had been killed during the fight, including a few super-capitals. We want to clarify that this was due to database issues, which are still under investigation – the ships were NOT returned by GameMasters. This matter is still being investigated and further information will be forthcoming when available.
Hi CCP, did you ever heard about a database feature called "Transactions"?

OK, I hope you know about it and work on it already, and you'll remove all the illegally duplicated items (killmails show that they are destroyed, right? And you reimbursement policy is to not reimburse ships destroyed during a fleet fight).


are you ******ed? Those ships would have never shown up as killmails if ccps **** had worked right. Every titan found floating in space the next day are the same titans that had jumped out, waited a few hours and logged out. Those titans after logging out came right back to local and were killed.

I have 2 killmails from shrike where I killed him, he still had the ship the next day from rollbacks. Does that mean we get to take his ship also??? Also, nothing was said about the ships being reimbursed idiot.

Zuquar Bonaparte
Gallente
New Dawn Corporation
Circle-Of-Two
Posted - 2010.06.18 18:02:00 - [485]
 

Originally by: IronGoldenEagle
Originally by: Gertrud ToD
something that i find really amazing:
when the northern campaign website did not include the russians etc.
NC was whining alot about them not being counted to SC.
a while later they where added to that website, NC, in the total history still didnt score the major points/isk/whatever.

now the russians score a major victory, and NC is telling SC people that
they shouldnt be posting here since this would be a russian only victory..

seriously NC, make up your mind.


That was when they were ALL attacking. Now it's JUST the russians.


afaik, co2 had no russians on the field , we was present with atleast 3 titans and 2 supercarriers, so pls stop calling us russians or ill be very offended, no disrespect meant towards our russian friends btwVery Happy
we still love you very much white noise and red alliance for planning such a perfect trap based on the fact that NC was so arrogant as usuall and thought they wouldnt be punished for useing titans in such a foolish manner. REBELION your next , we are waiting for your titan to get out of forcefield.Cool


Tyby
Gallente
Nex Exercitus
Raiden.
Posted - 2010.06.18 18:04:00 - [486]
 

Originally by: Eklykti
Originally by: GM Grimmi
During the fleet-battle in 6NJ8-V on June 16th server performance was adversely affected by load issues. One of the resulting problems was the revival of ships that had been killed during the fight, including a few super-capitals. We want to clarify that this was due to database issues, which are still under investigation – the ships were NOT returned by GameMasters. This matter is still being investigated and further information will be forthcoming when available.
Hi CCP, did you ever heard about a database feature called "Transactions"?

OK, I hope you know about it and work on it already, and you'll remove all the illegally duplicated items (killmails show that they are destroyed, right? And you reimbursement policy is to not reimburse ships destroyed during a fleet fight).


heh, politics... Laughing
i remember few years ago, during max campain, nc got all theyr cap fleet reimbursed to a dead node; then few weeks later, in e-7 TRI/WN lost they'r cap fleets to a dead node also...and guess what? not even one capital was reimbursed Wink
let's wait and see Cool

FlameGlow
Caldari
Avalon Guards
Gypsy Band
Posted - 2010.06.18 18:07:00 - [487]
 

Originally by: Zuquar Bonaparte
REBELION your next , we are waiting for your titan to get out of forcefield.Cool



special offer - for only 50 bil we'll bump him out Wink

Rebnott Valeri
Gallente
Reliables Inc
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2010.06.18 18:09:00 - [488]
 

Originally by: LadyScarlet
lol, I wont apologies for questioning suspicious activity's in eve by anyone. And more so by anyone wearing a official tag that represents the people of eve. If im wrong im wrong how ever if the tables were reversed im sure there be no difference in the questions prob just 500 pages longer and a hell a lot more accusations. At the end of the day IF CCP fixes the game and fair play for all then my job is done.

Lady :)


So you didn't take the bet then?

hybridundertaker
Amarr
coracao ardente
Posted - 2010.06.18 18:12:00 - [489]
 

dead titans, me likes. dead titans coming back, me not like that much. ccp pls keep dead titans well and properly dead.

im sure it has been said before in the thread but still, i cant resist the temptation: welcome to the north!


Robert Ger
Caldari
WEPRA CORP
White Noise.
Posted - 2010.06.18 18:15:00 - [490]
 

im sure nc discovered how to open a road betwen two systems and ships nirvana! thy just jump the ships back and laugh that other peapole dieng ... or just maybe after last server crasch we use now WOW code ?
anyways
not good for this game

Zuquar Bonaparte
Gallente
New Dawn Corporation
Circle-Of-Two
Posted - 2010.06.18 18:15:00 - [491]
 

Originally by: FlameGlow
Originally by: Zuquar Bonaparte
REBELION your next , we are waiting for your titan to get out of forcefield.Cool



special offer - for only 50 bil we'll bump him out Wink


hmm good deal, specially if those 50b could be cloned so i still have them in my wallet afterwards, or maybe i need to be a csm b4 being able to do that.Shocked

Rebnott Valeri
Gallente
Reliables Inc
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2010.06.18 18:18:00 - [492]
 

Originally by: Gertrud ToD
something that i find really amazing:
when the northern campaign website did not include the russians etc.
NC was whining alot about them not being counted to SC.
a while later they where added to that website, NC, in the total history still didnt score the major points/isk/whatever.

now the russians score a major victory, and NC is telling SC people that
they shouldnt be posting here since this would be a russian only victory..

seriously NC, make up your mind.


Yeah we are losing all our space as you speak. I, personally, am evacuating now!

gigX
Caldari
SRBI
Circle-Of-Two
Posted - 2010.06.18 18:43:00 - [493]
 

Edited by: gigX on 18/06/2010 18:43:25
Originally by: Rebnott Valeri
Originally by: Gertrud ToD
something that i find really amazing:
when the northern campaign website did not include the russians etc.
NC was whining alot about them not being counted to SC.
a while later they where added to that website, NC, in the total history still didnt score the major points/isk/whatever.

now the russians score a major victory, and NC is telling SC people that
they shouldnt be posting here since this would be a russian only victory..

seriously NC, make up your mind.



Yeah we are losing all our space as you speak. I, personally, am evacuating now!



That will not be your first time

Elektrea
Minmatar
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.06.18 18:46:00 - [494]
 

Originally by: gigX
Edited by: gigX on 18/06/2010 18:43:25
Originally by: Rebnott Valeri
Originally by: Gertrud ToD
something that i find really amazing:
when the northern campaign website did not include the russians etc.
NC was whining alot about them not being counted to SC.
a while later they where added to that website, NC, in the total history still didnt score the major points/isk/whatever.

now the russians score a major victory, and NC is telling SC people that
they shouldnt be posting here since this would be a russian only victory..

seriously NC, make up your mind.



Yeah we are losing all our space as you speak. I, personally, am evacuating now!



That will not be your first time


you make it sound like co2 did all the work. You committed what, two titans? Laughing

Zuquar Bonaparte
Gallente
New Dawn Corporation
Circle-Of-Two
Posted - 2010.06.18 18:50:00 - [495]
 

Originally by: Elektrea
Originally by: gigX
Edited by: gigX on 18/06/2010 18:43:25
Originally by: Rebnott Valeri
Originally by: Gertrud ToD
something that i find really amazing:
when the northern campaign website did not include the russians etc.
NC was whining alot about them not being counted to SC.
a while later they where added to that website, NC, in the total history still didnt score the major points/isk/whatever.

now the russians score a major victory, and NC is telling SC people that
they shouldnt be posting here since this would be a russian only victory..

seriously NC, make up your mind.



Yeah we are losing all our space as you speak. I, personally, am evacuating now!



That will not be your first time


you make it sound like co2 did all the work. You committed what, two titans? Laughing



hmm you make it sound like PL had anything to do with anything , you commited what 2 shuttles?

Muad' Dib
Gallente
PWNED FACTOR HOLDINGS
Posted - 2010.06.18 19:07:00 - [496]
 

Originally by: Elektrea
Originally by: gigX
Edited by: gigX on 18/06/2010 18:43:25
Originally by: Rebnott Valeri
Originally by: Gertrud ToD
something that i find really amazing:
when the northern campaign website did not include the russians etc.
NC was whining alot about them not being counted to SC.
a while later they where added to that website, NC, in the total history still didnt score the major points/isk/whatever.

now the russians score a major victory, and NC is telling SC people that
they shouldnt be posting here since this would be a russian only victory..

seriously NC, make up your mind.



Yeah we are losing all our space as you speak. I, personally, am evacuating now!



That will not be your first time


you make it sound like co2 did all the work. You committed what, two titans? Laughing


You make it sound like titans are worthless and they grow in Providence, in alt corp in UK ... oh wait.

Golemag
Minmatar
Spricer
Raiden.
Posted - 2010.06.18 19:11:00 - [497]
 

posting in a vak lau troll thread

speedek
Amarr
Spricer
Raiden.
Posted - 2010.06.18 19:19:00 - [498]
 

Originally by: Golemag
posting in a vak lau troll thread


why?

Metal Dude
Gallente
Destructive Influence
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.06.18 19:19:00 - [499]
 

Originally by: Tiger's Spirit

So just stfu and using your brain.


Maybe you should learn English before you start talking about brains, genius.

As for your analogy, are you saying that nobody ever lost a capital to lag desinc while trying to jump out of system in the past 7 months? I know for a fact that SC did, we just don't whine about it, we move on. I never heard of any ships spawning back after downtime after they lost them till now. Again, no one ever got their ships back except PL and now NC. That smells like a rat to me.

Josiphine Noir
Amarr
Pelican.
Veneratio Venator Alliance
Posted - 2010.06.18 19:23:00 - [500]
 

Originally by: Metal Dude
Originally by: Tiger's Spirit

So just stfu and using your brain.


Maybe you should learn English before you start talking about brains, genius.

As for your analogy, are you saying that nobody ever lost a capital to lag desinc while trying to jump out of system in the past 7 months? I know for a fact that SC did, we just don't whine about it, we move on. I never heard of any ships spawning back after downtime after they lost them till now. Again, no one ever got their ships back except PL and now NC. That smells like a rat to me.



You would know what rats smell like now that you're back down in delve killing them right?

IronGoldenEagle
Caldari
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2010.06.18 19:28:00 - [501]
 

Originally by: Josiphine Noir
Originally by: Metal Dude
Originally by: Tiger's Spirit

So just stfu and using your brain.


Maybe you should learn English before you start talking about brains, genius.

As for your analogy, are you saying that nobody ever lost a capital to lag desinc while trying to jump out of system in the past 7 months? I know for a fact that SC did, we just don't whine about it, we move on. I never heard of any ships spawning back after downtime after they lost them till now. Again, no one ever got their ships back except PL and now NC. That smells like a rat to me.



You would know what rats smell like now that you're back down in delve killing them right?


QFT, and for epic burn value

Mynxee
Minmatar
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2010.06.18 19:29:00 - [502]
 

Edited by: Mynxee on 18/06/2010 20:11:59
Originally by: Lord TGR
Originally by: Marlona Sky
Wasn't the original purpose of the CSM when it was first incarnated to keep checks on such things so there is no more things ala T20 scandal stuff.

I am sure the CSM will rise to the occasion and have an unbiased approach to this new development.

Wait... isn't Vuk on the CSM?... oh shi..

Christ, this is getting bad. CSM is supposed to be for bringing suggestions and issues from the players to CCP. What you're thinking of is more likely to be IA, or Internal Affairs.

Your tinfoil hat is getting pretty oversized.



Actually Marlona is essentially correct. Although its role has evolved to focus more on player raised issues,

Quote:
The purpose of the CSM is to represent society interests to CCP. This requires active engagement with the player community to master EVE issue awareness, understanding, and evaluation in the context of the “greatest good for the greater player base”. The scope of issues is restricted only to EVE, its ongoing development, and limited meta (out-of-game) issues which have direct relevance to the EVE universe.


This text was taken from the CSM Summary written by CCP Xhagen. The way I interpret it, demanding transparency from CCP related to suspected CCP wrong-doing in-game is still within the CSM's charter. If CCP doesn't report to players about "6NJgate" Laughing before next week's Summit, I'm sure CSM will be asking questions. Whether we get answers--or can share them--or are able to convince CCP to do so--remains to be seen.


Metal Dude
Gallente
Destructive Influence
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.06.18 19:30:00 - [503]
 

Originally by: Josiphine Noir

You would know what rats smell like now that you're back down in delve killing them right?


Nope, sorry. All the rats have moved to Curse.

Azzma
Amarr
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.06.18 19:31:00 - [504]
 

What's really the issue is this lag sucks. We should'nt blame each other we should look at CCP. Go tell them Vuk Lau. CCP are idiots.

Captain Thunk
Amarr
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.06.18 20:07:00 - [505]
 

Originally by: Metal Dude

As for your analogy, are you saying that nobody ever lost a capital to lag desinc while trying to jump out of system in the past 7 months? I know for a fact that SC did, we just don't whine about it, we move on. I never heard of any ships spawning back after downtime after they lost them till now. Again, no one ever got their ships back except PL and now NC. That smells like a rat to me.



We stated pilotless ships respawned at D/T after Y-2 quite clearly. Unfortunately both you and the GMs were far too busy trolling at the time to read the complicated words we were typing.

Ace Frehley
Minmatar
Mercenaries of Andosia
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.06.18 20:19:00 - [506]
 

england, worst at world cup c/d?

CCP Adida


Gallente
C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2010.06.18 20:34:00 - [507]
 

removed some trolling

baltec1
Caldari
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.06.18 20:45:00 - [508]
 

Originally by: Ace Frehley
england, worst at world cup c/d?


Still doing better than franceWink

Kage Toshimado
Gallente
The Logistical Nightmare
Posted - 2010.06.18 20:47:00 - [509]
 


I've heard rumors that CCP plans to blame the lag on the successfull testings of the highly secretive and invisible "Jovian Freeze Ray" that is being fired all the way from Jove space.


MissBolyai
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.06.18 20:54:00 - [510]
 

It's pretty obvious that the NC titans simply had unlocked the spy watch that lets you feign death.


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