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Nikilaiki Ruutarhara
Caldari
Project Daedalid
Posted - 2010.06.16 12:32:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: GregoriusAtlas
I think the Capsulear was Gallente and not Amarr , he just use an Amarr facade to instill fear ( those zealots are not to be messed with ) in ignorant Gallente citizens . As for his ship , that was obviously a Dominix , 6 rails variety . A gallente capsulear with more guts then common sense . Razz

Omvistus is quite Amarrian. Nice touch there I might add, CCP. Cool

Kenreikko Valitonen
Guiding Hand Social Club
Posted - 2010.06.16 13:05:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Nikilaiki Ruutarhara
Omvistus is quite Amarrian.


Ah, he's tricked you too, Nikilaiki! Very Happy

Deviana Sevidon
Gallente
Panta-Rhei
Butterfly Effect Alliance
Posted - 2010.06.16 13:53:00 - [33]
 

At least we know why he threatens the planetary citizens, with his skills he will probably need the help of a target painter and several Tracking Computers and Enhancers, just to hit anything below the size of a small moon. Razz

falcon216
Posted - 2010.06.16 14:07:00 - [34]
 

Excellent Chronicle, probably one of the best ones i have seen in a long time. Would like to see more chronicles like this in the future.

Eipok Kruden
Caldari
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
Posted - 2010.06.16 14:55:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Victor Valka
I much preferred the portrayal of capsuleer in "All These Lives are Fit to Ruin" to this. I'm all for exploring the alien amorality and twisted madness of a capsuleer, but Omvistus is just a thug. Neutral

Also. Amarr with railguns? This guy must have taken a page from EoM ship fitting guide. Laughing
I use railguns and drones. I fly Gallente ships more than any other, and hate the Gallente. Races don't influence your proficiency with certain weapons platforms, not anymore at least. Now it's all up to what you want to fly and what skills you've trained. Not base race-specific attributes.

Graelyn
Amarr
Wolfsbrigade
Posted - 2010.06.16 15:11:00 - [36]
 

Why did I discover myself holding my breath at the end of that chron?

wtf is with that? Cool

Seriphyn Inhonores
Gallente
Eleutherian Guard
Posted - 2010.06.16 15:40:00 - [37]
 

Edited by: Seriphyn Inhonores on 16/06/2010 15:42:40
I'm really not sure why the empires agreed to this, or what they benefit from such megalomania.

Good reason for me to keep out of PI myself. However if this guy can be malevolent, I'm sure we can RP as benevolent if we want. Moreover, CONCORD has ultimate control, and giving the capsuleers the illusion of power is something.

Vaneshi SnowCrash
Posted - 2010.06.16 17:17:00 - [38]
 

Nice short.

Real power though is in making the planetry authories do what you want, when you want... and think it was their idea.

Besides railgun ammo ain't cheap ya know and there are better things to sling it at than some backwater **** hole of a planet. Drones + six feet of cork for a heat shield. Solved.

Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
Posted - 2010.06.17 03:20:00 - [39]
 

I love this.

(and the trekkies screaming about this breaking PF are dumb)

Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
Posted - 2010.06.17 03:49:00 - [40]
 

p.s. For laughs, imagine Omvistus to be a carebear newbie who just trained his PI skills to 1.

Pesets
The Hunt Club
Posted - 2010.06.17 05:34:00 - [41]
 

Well, frankly, the whole idea of capsuleers having as little accountability for all the power and freedom they have never made much sense. But it was a necessary compromise between lore and gameplay it tries to describe. But this chron just erased what little believability the backstory ever had. If capsuleers can get away with this kind of crap, then the empire governments might as well retire themselves altogether. Realistically, even simply getting the permission to build an industrial complex in the middle of a populated area would be an extremely delicate issue involving a lot of kickbacks. But that wouldn't make the readers feel as cool about their virtual selves i guess, so instead you just threaten the planetary government with antimatter bombardment.

It is remotely possible that Yvesk is just an extremely incompetent planetary administrator who never bothered to read through relevant legislation (which would never realistically allow anything like this). But it's more likely that inspiring new subscribers to try out the new RSI inducer is more of a priority than maintaining consistent storyline noone really cares about anyways.

Also, activating that target painter would get him concordokkened faster than he could say "wtf".

HeliosGal
Caldari
Posted - 2010.06.17 09:14:00 - [42]
 

tbh i think any beliviablilty went ou window

Lusulpher
Gallente
Posted - 2010.06.17 10:30:00 - [43]
 

Don't know about how kosher this is with the established lore, but I became aroused.Embarassed

A few million ISK actually felt epic here. Good job.

Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
Posted - 2010.06.17 14:02:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: Pesets
Well, frankly, the whole idea of capsuleers having as little accountability for all the power and freedom they have never made much sense. But it was a necessary compromise between lore and gameplay it tries to describe. But this chron just erased what little believability the backstory ever had. If capsuleers can get away with this kind of crap, then the empire governments might as well retire themselves altogether. Realistically, even simply getting the permission to build an industrial complex in the middle of a populated area would be an extremely delicate issue involving a lot of kickbacks. But that wouldn't make the readers feel as cool about their virtual selves i guess, so instead you just threaten the planetary government with antimatter bombardment.

It is remotely possible that Yvesk is just an extremely incompetent planetary administrator who never bothered to read through relevant legislation (which would never realistically allow anything like this). But it's more likely that inspiring new subscribers to try out the new RSI inducer is more of a priority than maintaining consistent storyline noone really cares about anyways.

I think it's perfectly believable. Capsuleers weren't originally created by the 4 empires to be uncaring star-gods, they just evolved to be that way once they reached a certain critical mass.

Think of it this way. The Jove give the Caldari the first capsule ships. Gallente notice they're getting owned by these new capsule ships, so naturally they tell their spies to learn all about capsules. Soon, all four empires have acquired the knowledge, either overtly or covertly, because there's a new arms race, and capsuleers are the weapon.

In an arms race, you try to get as many weapons as possible. You give little consideration to what the weapons might do 50 years from now, all you know is you need *as many* or *a bit more* than the other guy. So now you've got all four empires cranking out capsuleers, who mind you used to be human.

As time progresses, these capsuleers die/clone/die/clone/die/clone, losing thousands of vanilla human crew in the process. Any human thrust into that situation would start going a little nuts, losing their attachment to humanity, losing their concern for the deaths of thousands of replacable non-podders. Except due to the arms race, each empire has effectively created enough capsuleers to create that key critical mass: the number of pod pilots becoming greater than the ability of the Empires to control their former charges. If the Empires tried, they'd be facing their own best martial creations, suddenly slinging warheads at their core worlds. So instead, these Empires permit a change in the balance of power; they acknowledge that the star gods can't be stopped, but try to keep them in the fold via nationalist loyalty; via cash rewards; via access to the best technology we demand.

I think that's why Omvistus threatened the planetary governor. It wasn't that there weren't consequences (his ship would get concordokkened, he'd take a sec hit) but what he was saying, is that he could easily sacrifice his own life, and the lives of his battleship's 6k crew, and not care for the consequences. He'd just suicide, take a sec hit, and wake up in his clone bay to collect his insurance - but in that time, his antimatter shells would wipe out the city below.

Rens Pricemaster
Posted - 2010.06.17 14:39:00 - [45]
 

Edited by: Rens Pricemaster on 17/06/2010 14:40:43
Well they shouldn't have the power to just bully an entire planet around like that. why not call in the gallente fleet?

Most of the chronicles are great but unfortunately I just cant imagine a world within empire space where this can take place. I mean, the gallente navy would come in heavy handed to protect the planet from invasion if he fired even one miserable shot. DED ships will fry him.

Genki SG
Scapegoats
Posted - 2010.06.17 15:26:00 - [46]
 

seeing as i'm not the only one who loves the artwork...
could we get a high res version of it? pretty please?
there may even be cake

Asarus Atreyu
The Kairos Syndicate
Transmission Lost
Posted - 2010.06.17 16:36:00 - [47]
 

I loved it.. but wow, aren't there any nice capsuleers out there?

Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
Posted - 2010.06.17 17:37:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Rens Pricemaster
Edited by: Rens Pricemaster on 17/06/2010 14:40:43
Well they shouldn't have the power to just bully an entire planet around like that. why not call in the gallente fleet?

Most of the chronicles are great but unfortunately I just cant imagine a world within empire space where this can take place. I mean, the gallente navy would come in heavy handed to protect the planet from invasion if he fired even one miserable shot. DED ships will fry him.


Well, yeah, they would. But he wouldn't die, and he'd come back and get a few more shots off. He doesn't care.

Casiella Truza
Ecliptic Rift
Posted - 2010.06.17 21:04:00 - [49]
 

Edited by: Casiella Truza on 17/06/2010 21:04:29
I'm wondering why FW even exists if anybody can waltz up to a planet and have the government do the capsuleer's bidding on threat of orbital bombardment. I mean, imagine the TLF flying around Derelik and informing planetary administrators that they will commence to fire large nuclear rounds if they don't move all Starkmanir slaves to their launchpads for evacuation immediately.

I'm just not sure how well this plan was thought through.

Slave Canus0001
Posted - 2010.06.17 21:57:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Casiella Truza
Edited by: Casiella Truza on 17/06/2010 21:04:29
I'm wondering why FW even exists if anybody can waltz up to a planet and have the government do the capsuleer's bidding on threat of orbital bombardment. I mean, imagine the TLF flying around Derelik and informing planetary administrators that they will commence to fire large nuclear rounds if they don't move all Starkmanir slaves to their launchpads for evacuation immediately.

I'm just not sure how well this plan was thought through.

I... think you misunderstand.

Originally by: Omvistus
“The amount of raw materials that will need to be transported into orbit is an order of magnitude larger than what your current facilities are able to support. Additionally, I will be overseeing the construction of the seventy-two new spaceports my corporation requires, each located at key intersections across the surface of your world.”

I think that Pilot Omvistus just had his ID hacked by a certain foreign "Nation". Wait, Why is my screen name changed!? Oh no...

Laughing

If I'm putting the pieces together correctly, didn't the Ishaeka reports say something about Capsuleer assistance in placing structures?

Lusulpher
Gallente
Posted - 2010.06.17 22:39:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Rens Pricemaster
Edited by: Rens Pricemaster on 17/06/2010 14:40:43
Well they shouldn't have the power to just bully an entire planet around like that. why not call in the gallente fleet?

Most of the chronicles are great but unfortunately I just cant imagine a world within empire space where this can take place. I mean, the gallente navy would come in heavy handed to protect the planet from invasion if he fired even one miserable shot. DED ships will fry him.


Do you play EvE?

You are an Immortal. There is no true death, no true loss. You just keep approaching infinity, you keep approaching less lost...your flesh, lives, assets, honour...

The administrator is going to call the cops, and they will arrive, before the shells plunge into the heart of his district...Rolling Eyes Lose all the lives on the planet or evacuate most. Needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.[Unless the few is the guy with the gun]
And then he's still gonna come back to shoot the survivors, just because you ****ed him off.

And of course bullies win, if anything a bully is, it's persistent. This thug is just not as subtle as the other thugs[businessmen].

Makes me think you've lost touch with virtual and real reality, capsuleer. Correct this.

Rens Pricemaster
Posted - 2010.06.18 03:33:00 - [52]
 

Edited by: Rens Pricemaster on 18/06/2010 04:00:29

Well this is still too unbelievable for me to take as canon. The fact is laws exist in empire for a REASON. If he goes on like this he will find himself barred from federation space.

He'd come back a few monents later. Sec hit. another sec hit. Eventually if he goes on like this, he will be barred from hisec. Laws exist for a reason. And what happened to the planet's own defense force. Also, I doubt antimatter shells are THAT powerful. One battleship can't nuke a whole damn city else I'd just ram mine into new caldari and start shooting like no tomorrow. Damage will be severe yes. But he will be concorded before he can fire a second shot. And judging from the pwnageness of concord... do you really think poddies have THE BEST tech? Best second to concord and the navies' top tiers maybe. Thats why we need THEIR faction mods. He has an hour. Call in concord AND the Gallente navy. And capsuleers like me if you pay me enough to pwn this guy's ass.

It is reasonable that he can bully a small planetary corp, a village, maybe even an entire small station. However I'm pretty sure concord would have thought of this and wouldn't sacrifice the needs of 1 bil citizens so readily. He must have paid a hellotta money. And I wonder what the planet has to gain... the resources he brings may JUST be worth it. Its economy will be 10x, if not 100x more developed than before, and the jobs created will be immeanse. FAct is, this omnivius guy still needed to get permission from higher ups to do this, can't just barge into a planet (though in game we can but imaginary paperworks have been done) and start calling yourself boss.

Also, do you think the empires and concord will make a law (or rather, remove all laws so that) saying hey poddies come and make everyone your slave, and we hope that you will be a nice master and increase planet productivity while youre at it but hey no strings attached. Go ahead all our citizens are your slaves. Plus, those things don't just come crashing down from the sky you know... 1 hour to evacuate, but probably will take some time to clear ground. Can't just build on top of all that clutter.
It may happen in caldari (if enough pple have been bribed), it may happen in amarr if its a slave planet. But come on. GALLENTE SPACE? This will be on the scope the next day and this guy will be thrown out. Then again, if enough hands have been greased...

Lastly, there will be standing and sec status hits. And I'm pretty sure genocide warrents a HUGE sec hit to recover from (IF it can be recovered from) compared with just blowing up something comparatively much smaller in space.
Also escape pods. If you blow stuff up in space once it hits structure crew are evacuated, as supported by existing canon.

There are plenty of poddies barred from ever setting foot in 0.5, like fatal for example. Big criminal/terrorist masterminds. The original sansha. And his top tier croonies.
I would seriously doubt the legality of him blowing up entire cities with people still in it and laying down his structures just like that. When placing the command center I don't think it just drops out of the sky and PLOMP!!! People have to build it.

Revenatis
Haters Gonna Hate
Posted - 2010.06.18 04:32:00 - [53]
 

Freaking ******ed garbage. Agree with every negative comment so far and then some, this same old LOL SO GRIMDARK XD junk is just so unrealistic and boring. This latest one is easily one of the worst chronicles yet. Luckily CCP hasn't bothered with PvE or lore as part of the game in many years so I guess we can just completely ignore it as it goes into a downwards spiral rather then have it mess up gameplay. It would be cool though if you could find some adults to write this stuff rather then high school kids who haven't gotten through their goth phase yet.

Azura Noctis
Amarr
SWARTA
Posted - 2010.06.18 05:51:00 - [54]
 

Very good, looking forward to more. :)

Jonathan Mcarthur
Caldari
Stargazer Exploration Company
Sundiver Technology Diversified
Posted - 2010.06.18 06:13:00 - [55]
 

This isn't a capsuleer,

Why do I say that, for one that guy isn't floating in a pod filled with ectoplasma, instead he seems to be standing in a chamber per say connected with abunch of wires that have control of the ship. To me that difference in itself, means were probably looking a True Slave.

Because it kind of makes sense, robotic voice, high amount of human augmentation, an amarr disposition which many of Sansha's true slaves are, and I think all those space ports aren't for some manufacturing facilities. Think about it, he didn't really want to know about the planetary survey, he want to drop those industrial facilities and space port facilities at a drop of a hat, causing as much dispersion of people as possible. That way, head hunters just like in Eve: The Burning Life could come in kidnap them use the manufacturing facilities as guise and ship them off world like cattle.

I might be over thinking this, but CCP is known for symbolism, hidden messages in the obvious and this isn't abraxus so I wouldn't say we should trust what's presented in front of us.

Also Chesiette is in the Verge Vendor region of the Gallente Federation, kind of a quiet backwater if you look at the map. While it is a .6 security rating it is bordered by a .4 security rating system that could be accessed by the sansha's nation, let's say sneak a bunch of true slaves that look like capsuleers at first glance to the average backwater planetary administrator.

I would also like to point out that it's not on the border of the Amarr Empire, heh it's actually very far from the amarr empire about from what I estimate to be 11 jumps or so. But what it is close to is the Syndicate. So I think, what were looking at is Sansha being really clever, and rather kidnapping maybe hundred thousand citizen from a low security planet, he takes MILLIONS from a mid security planet.

Sounds like a plan born in hell and back, but nonetheless brilliant.

Pesets
The Hunt Club
Posted - 2010.06.18 10:21:00 - [56]
 

Edited by: Pesets on 18/06/2010 10:23:47
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
I think it's perfectly believable. Capsuleers weren't originally created by the 4 empires to be uncaring star-gods, they just evolved to be that way once they reached a certain critical mass.


What they evolved into isn't the point. It's not a question of "i can't believe someone can be so ebil". You can be as morally ambiguous as you want, the government won't just let you literally stomp people down with your industrial complexes, it's a political suicide. They won't last long as a government if they don't do spit to protect their citizens. He wouldn't just get concordokken, he'd lose his capsuleer license for even trying to threaten planetary administration like that. Who cares how efficient capsuleers are at dealing with external threats if the cure is worse than the disease?

Originally by: Lusulpher
You are an Immortal. There is no true death, no true loss. You just keep approaching infinity, you keep approaching less lost...your flesh, lives, assets, honour...


You aren't some god with innate magical powers. You're an ordinary human lucky enough to have access to extraordinary resources. It's very easy to cut that access. Your money are only an asset as long as you are permitted to use it. You are only immortal as long as you're allowed to use the infrastructure that makes it possible.

Hell, let's even say the government is totally corrupt and doesn't give two ****s about its people - people themselves do. Your "power" relies on thousands upon thousands of regular people working to provide it for you, and you're declaring war on all of them. Not a wise move. One person in a million willing to do something about it is enough for you to end up in a sabotaged clone one day.

Originally by: Lusulpher
Makes me think you've lost touch with virtual and real reality, capsuleer. Correct this.


I would argue about who's lost more touch with reality here, but i can't really be arsed.

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
Posted - 2010.06.18 19:52:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: Pesets
Edited by: Pesets on 18/06/2010 10:23:47
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
I think it's perfectly believable. Capsuleers weren't originally created by the 4 empires to be uncaring star-gods, they just evolved to be that way once they reached a certain critical mass.


What they evolved into isn't the point. It's not a question of "i can't believe someone can be so ebil". You can be as morally ambiguous as you want, the government won't just let you literally stomp people down with your industrial complexes, it's a political suicide. They won't last long as a government if they don't do spit to protect their citizens. He wouldn't just get concordokken, he'd lose his capsuleer license for even trying to threaten planetary administration like that. Who cares how efficient capsuleers are at dealing with external threats if the cure is worse than the disease?


The empires aren't in a position to do that. It is hard for many nations on Earth even now and they have only normal people to fight against. For gameplay reasons our influence is limited in empire space, and as the age old forum debates have shown, we really don't have any real need for empire space. It has it's benefits for the game and is good for the subscription numbers though, but the capsuleers certainly aren't dependant on it. It is also worth noting, that the planets will benefit immensely from the interaction as a whole. A few incidents are certainly a price worth paying for such a benefit for most worlds.

I'm not sure I get the licence reference. What are they gonna do, fine you? Moving assets to secure operators isn't exactly hard now on Earth, so how would it be a major problem in a large galaxy with many opposing factions. The only realistic thing they could do is to deny access to their stations and attack you on sight. How would your game change, if that was actually allowed? The shooting is allowed already and it doesn't matter. The station limitation would only be a limited annoyance. No real consequense for us from either limitation. Now imagine if the empire navies where made realistic in the same way. How many months do you think it would take before they would have been grinded into extinction. Death or submission for them, inconvenience for us.

Originally by: Pesets
Originally by: Lusulpher
You are an Immortal. There is no true death, no true loss. You just keep approaching infinity, you keep approaching less lost...your flesh, lives, assets, honour...


You aren't some god with innate magical powers. You're an ordinary human lucky enough to have access to extraordinary resources. It's very easy to cut that access. Your money are only an asset as long as you are permitted to use it. You are only immortal as long as you're allowed to use the infrastructure that makes it possible.

Hell, let's even say the government is totally corrupt and doesn't give two ****s about its people - people themselves do. Your "power" relies on thousands upon thousands of regular people working to provide it for you, and you're declaring war on all of them. Not a wise move. One person in a million willing to do something about it is enough for you to end up in a sabotaged clone one day.


It isn't easy to cut access at this point. We are in no way dependant on the empires and the empires aren't a uniform blob with a single purpose guiding them. Individuals care mainly about themselves. We don't care about them, so all they need do is stay out of the way and they will keep on trucking like they always do. We also have our own cloning facilities, so even if every faction joined against us at the same time, we would keep respawning, building new ships and getting back to the fight in an endless loop. What government would fight against that, when their neighbours propably wouldn't and would instead exploit the situation to the fullest. An empire that initiated that fight would end up losing a lot more, than the capsuleers ever cost them.

Revenatis
Haters Gonna Hate
Posted - 2010.06.18 20:31:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Destination SkillQueue
The empires aren't in a position to do that.
This is so stupid it makes my head hurt. Come on destination, you have a secret method to beat Concord you'd like to share with us? Or to fight faction navies indefinitely while performing other useful actions? Or to fight faction capitals, with no capitals of your own (because it's highsec)?

Seriously, how bad at this game can you get. And in fact that's our entire point, that this garbage story is utterly divorced from reality. Why do you always see people refusing to take missions against Empire factions? Why is Faction Warfare not more popular? Why do people care about a faction setting them to -10? Oh, because there are serious heavy duty consequences. You say the empires aren't in a position to do anything? I say you'll utterly full of it and that the game proves me right and you wrong.
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A few incidents are certainly a price worth paying for such a benefit for most worlds.
Annihilation of millions is "a few incidents"? Cool story bro. Particularly when plenty of capsuleers would be totally fine playing nice. This LOL GRIMDARK is also not even vaguely realistic. It's the Gods' fault, not ours. And thus it's irritating to have that role thrust upon us.
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I'm not sure I get the licence reference. What are they gonna do, fine you?
Set you to -10, impound all your assets, set your CORP to -10 as long as you're a member, no more docking anywhere in their space, etc. And given the empires have happily and in canon cooperated to contain capsuleers in the past (see again Faction Warfare) there's no reason to expect they wouldn't mutually respect punishing atrocities too. Commit planetary bombardment? Instant Concord, instant ban from all of empire.
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How would your game change, if that was actually allowed?
A lot. PI is all about PROFIT. That is the major reason we are there. Now you're suggesting that people would be interested in dropping some command center if it meant instant -10 Faction AND sec status AND no more docking? Yeah, that'd impact the attractiveness of the endeavor just a teensy bit, particularly when highsec planets aren't as good anyway.
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How many months do you think it would take before they would have been grinded into extinction. Death or submission for them, inconvenience for us.
Your silly fantasies of solitude are amusing but that's it. The fact is that you are HEAVILY protected and benefitted by the empire's support. We generate profit for them, they for us, no one resorts to the nuclear options. But if you think those options don't exist for most capsuleers, you're wrong. What if the Empire's took a note from the stories and started trying to send out blackops squads to nail you outside of your ship? What if you they try to sabotage your clones? You aren't immortal, you're a guy/gal jumping around fragile, physical bodies that do in fact exist somewhere. Some people are part of groups with their own alliance owned stations, or have friends with supercapitals and clone bays. The vast majority would be pretty ****ed if suddenly all the empires decided for a clean start by ejecting every clone body on every station directly into vacuum.
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It isn't easy to cut access at this point. We are in no way dependant on the empires…
See above. Also faction missions and pirate bounties, all provided by Empire, are major isk spigots in the game. Enjoy having those disappear.
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…and the empires aren't a uniform blob with a single purpose guiding them.
See above, they have been shown to cooperate seriously when dealing with capsuleers on many occasions.
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We also have our own cloning facilities…
No, "we" don't. Some of us do, a limited number of them. Most do not. And the lore also bears out that the pirates bear us no love either, in case you wanted to go that route.

Candente
Caldari
Posted - 2010.06.18 21:00:00 - [59]
 

I agree with what's being said about this chronicle's biggest mystery. The story is worded in a way that makes me believe the "capsuleer" (assuming it's a real capsuleer instead of a True Slave or whatever), can logically do what he threatens to do.

The only way it could make sense to me is: the planet is somewhere outside of Empire spaces, where there is a local colony with a powerless government such that somebody driving a battleship could literally enslave the population.

But no, the planet in question is under Gallente authority and isn't far out in middle of no where but bordering Amarr space, which makes it semi-important.

combining the fact that if there is no adequate consequences for such planetary bombardment carried out by capsuleers, humanity in New Eden will end pretty soon.

There is where the entire chronicle failed to make sense to me.

Revenatis
Haters Gonna Hate
Posted - 2010.06.18 21:18:00 - [60]
 

Also, you finish off by mentioning exploiting the situation. But you inherently assume that WE wouldn't exploit it too. The empires could easily pay us, both in ISK and in items and favors, to fight those who refused to cooperate. This extends to nullsec too. You're assuming yourself that capsuleers WOULD act as a uniform force. More likely is that many would happily turn on the outlaws in exchange for massive profit. If there were alliances that chose to not destroy clones themselves and to support highsec atrocities then other alliances, backed by the empires, would GLEEFULLY attack them. As if we need the excuse anyway, and now you think entire alliances offered a supply of faction ships for nothing so long as they agree to go stomp on other alliances won't leap at the chance? Where are you going to run? You have a buddy who will keep your clone on their supercap? Yeah, people wouldn't hunt rogue supercaps for fun and profit.

Story was total junk for more fundamental reasons overall, but your reasoning in particular is nuts too. Grow up.


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