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Merouk Baas
Gallente
Posted - 2010.06.16 00:53:00 - [31]
 

OMG 20 mil in 2 weeks! ROFL

BrundleMeth
Caldari
Temporal Mechanics
Posted - 2010.06.16 12:35:00 - [32]
 

Edited by: BrundleMeth on 16/06/2010 12:36:42
I make 600 Million in less than an hour's work. How? In RL I earn enough in 50 minutes to buy a GTC. Sell it for ISK on forums. Then I can spend my time having real fun rather than doing some mind numbing repetitive stuff to make ISK to buy stuff to have my real fun...

Got my $8000.00 tax return. Bought 30 GTC's sold for 18 Billion. lolololol

ChrisDude70
The Night Crew
Posted - 2010.06.16 12:45:00 - [33]
 

With my setup, I make around 2.5m every 2 to 3 hours.

Every day it takes me around half an hour to manage my planets.
This includes:
Restarting my extracters.
Collecting the exess P0 materials for additional cash (They sell for 1 to 5 isk each)
Collecting P1 materials and transferring them to my production planet.
Collecting P4 materials and taking them to the station.

So really, for half an hour of work, I make 30million ISK.
Broken? I think not.


Snabbik Shigen
Posted - 2010.06.16 13:03:00 - [34]
 

My hope is that they change the 96h extraction choice to "keep going until it runs dry". I'd change all of my colonies over to that in a heartbeat instead of mucking with them twice a day.

ForceM
Gallente
POS Builder Inc.
Silent Requiem
Posted - 2010.06.16 13:27:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Kerfira
I set up 3 planets with 15, 14 and 10 extractors...

That comes to 159 clicks to activate them... Rolling Eyes



1) Double click extractor
2) Double click time
3) sumbit

Finished

Spaceman Jack
Posted - 2010.06.16 13:58:00 - [36]
 

Damn - Im sorry guys - I guess I just have a knack for polarizing topics with my wicked words.

Fraa Jaad
Posted - 2010.06.16 14:48:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: ForceM
Originally by: Kerfira
I set up 3 planets with 15, 14 and 10 extractors...

That comes to 159 clicks to activate them... Rolling Eyes



1) Double click extractor
2) Double click time
3) sumbit

Finished


Repeat 1 and 2 for all your planet's extractors, then hit Submit. Less clicking.

Ka choop
Posted - 2010.06.16 15:03:00 - [38]
 

Edited by: Ka choop on 16/06/2010 16:28:08
I make like 1.2-1.5 million/day/planet using the next setup.
I use 5 hours cycles which I start 2-3 times/day. If you can, 2 5 hour cycles will produce more yield then 1 23 hour cycle. This is enough to keep my facilities running. I have an improved command center and live in 0.0 so for low and high-sec it will be different. Also my scans are ****ty and I'll post when I get better skills. This way I can keep my facilities running indefinately but just barely.

Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Btw, I don't use a storage facility so I can place more extractors. You have to watch out your launchpad doesn't fill up with raw material otherwise you're going to lose produced material because there's nowhere to store it.
(link to pic:http://www.pieterb.nl/fotos/lavasetup.jpg

Vexidious
Posted - 2010.06.16 15:25:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Kerfira
I set up 3 planets with 15, 14 and 10 extractors...

That comes to 159 clicks to activate them... Rolling Eyes



SO, what you are saying is that CCP created a UI that is complete FAIL. Can't say that I'm surprised after using the other UIs in the game. Their UI designer (assuming that they have one) is either ******ed, or hates players, IMO.

Kerfira
Kerfira Corp
Posted - 2010.06.16 18:11:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: ForceM
Originally by: Kerfira
I set up 3 planets with 15, 14 and 10 extractors...

That comes to 159 clicks to activate them... Rolling Eyes

1) Double click extractor
2) Double click time
3) sumbit

Finished

That would be 195 clicks total... Hardly an improvement...

(15 * 4) + (14 * 4) + (10 * 4) + 3 = 159
The 15/14/10 are the number of extractors. The 4 is two double-clicks. The 3 is a submit per planet.

Must be pretty high on the list of most crappy interfaces ever...

Ghoest
Posted - 2010.06.16 19:04:00 - [41]
 

PI was EVE finding a completely different way than mining to make gaming tedius.

Mining is long term hour by hour boring. PI just jams a huge amount of tedium into the short while involved in setting it up.

The PitBoss
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
The 0rphanage
Posted - 2010.06.16 21:15:00 - [42]
 

PI is CCPs gift to the Chinese macro miners ... heaven only knows they need a boost to their economy IRL Rolling Eyes


Guillame Herschel
Gallente
NME1
Posted - 2010.06.16 21:22:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Spaceman Jack
Hells NO LOL
THIS UNIVERSE IS MINE!!!


No, just These Worlds Are Yours.

dankness420
Posted - 2010.06.16 21:45:00 - [44]
 

I am pumping out 24 Recursive Computing Modules and 48 Nano Factories a day using three 0.0 planets and my awesome stockpile of stuff! Thanks CCP :)

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2010.06.16 21:54:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: BrundleMeth
Edited by: BrundleMeth on 16/06/2010 12:36:42
I make 600 Million in less than an hour's work. How? In RL I earn enough in 50 minutes to buy a GTC. Sell it for ISK on forums. Then I can spend my time having real fun rather than doing some mind numbing repetitive stuff to make ISK to buy stuff to have my real fun...

Got my $8000.00 tax return. Bought 30 GTC's sold for 18 Billion. lolololol


Siigari V2?

-Liang

Casmy Blue
Gallente
Power and Water
Posted - 2010.06.17 05:32:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Spaceman Jack
Damn - Im sorry guys - I guess I just have a knack for polarizing topics with my wicked words.


Hit the road, Jack.

Magistrate Tsuris
Somnambulistic Surprises
Posted - 2010.06.17 05:45:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: BrundleMeth
Got my $8000.00 tax return. Bought 30 GTC's sold for 18 Billion. lolololol


You spent ~ $1000 of real cash on buying pixelated cash?

What's that expression about a genius and his money?

Oh wait, I think I might have gotten that wrong a little...

Taxesarebad
Posted - 2010.06.17 05:48:00 - [48]
 

confirming i made a 1bil today selling PI materials

Roemy Schneider
Vanishing Point.
Posted - 2010.06.17 05:51:00 - [49]
 

since last night, we know that at least this little sim city works when the core part of the game (PvP, for those who didn't know) is going skynet again. after reading JUMPING for 9 minutes, i decided to swap some launchpad contents with the customs office.
alas, i couldn't do it with a second char as the famous black screen wouldn't go away for the prime hour of the evening...

Gekkoh
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.06.17 07:16:00 - [50]
 

So, CCP spent the majority of 6 month's worth of development time in order to implement a system that lets you make 10M a week, if you log in every day and click the UI repeatedly in a manner very similar to farmville.

Instead of:
- UI improvements
- a faction warfare overhaul
- a redesign of the lowsec game
- making missions more exciting and less predictable
- further sovereignty upgrades
- dynamic mining belts and comets
- etc

... we got farmville in space, all so we can make 10M isk a week.

I sure hope this was the "light" expansion, and we get something fun, non-tedious and actually relative to the rest of the game in next expansion.

Brother Mephiston
FinFleet
Raiden.
Posted - 2010.06.17 09:33:00 - [51]
 

Edited by: Brother Mephiston on 17/06/2010 09:35:46
Originally by: BrundleMeth
Edited by: BrundleMeth on 16/06/2010 12:36:42
I make 600 Million in less than an hour's work. How? In RL I earn enough in 50 minutes to buy a GTC. Sell it for ISK on forums. Then I can spend my time having real fun rather than doing some mind numbing repetitive stuff to make ISK to buy stuff to have my real fun...

Got my $8000.00 tax return. Bought 30 GTC's sold for 18 Billion. lolololol


you need some serious therapy mate... you just spent enough to buy a bike on pixel cash.

Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network
Dignitas.
Posted - 2010.06.17 09:43:00 - [52]
 

Edited by: Dan O''Connor on 17/06/2010 09:57:51
Originally by: BrundleMeth
Edited by: BrundleMeth on 16/06/2010 12:36:42
I make 600 Million in less than an hour's work. How? In RL I earn enough in 50 minutes to buy a GTC. Sell it for ISK on forums. Then I can spend my time having real fun rather than doing some mind numbing repetitive stuff to make ISK to buy stuff to have my real fun...

Got my $8000.00 tax return. Bought 30 GTC's sold for 18 Billion. lolololol



You could say I'm somewhat dedicated to EVE and running it on 3 screens and all... But I WOULD NEVER DO THAT. You sir, deserve a FAIL Tag. A big one. In bright red bold Impact letters.

Also, Sig is related.

K'ven
Posted - 2010.06.17 10:16:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: Kerfira

Hint for CCP:
- Right-click Command Center
- Chose option 'All Extractors'
- Choose between 30 minutes, 5 hours, 23 hours, 3 days



And yet, a spark of sense emerges...

DrefsabZN
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.06.17 12:33:00 - [54]
 

For me I tried PI enjoyed the setup then thought meh I really can't be bothered with the rest of it. I make more isk by doing nothing from passive investments than I can make from PI by putting constant effort in.

So it boils down to doing something boring as hell for practically 0 return.
If I want to make isk then I would choose something else to do, if I want something to occupy my time then again I would again do something different.

For this reason I personally find PI a waste of time for me. I was hoping for a lot more from it. I'm sure some people will love it but well that's just my humble opinion on the "big feature" of the latest expansion.

Sade Onyx
Posted - 2010.06.17 12:43:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: Kephael
You can make that much in 20 minutes running anomalies in a marauder.


This is why people suck at PI, the ignorance in the majority is seething like some kind of infectious mental disease.

Dont you understand the meaning of passive?... it doesnt matter what you can DO to make more money, its what you DONT have to do to make money in PI.

Srsly, the backwards mentality of the majority is the biggest problem that CCP have, I understand now why they need to give us a whole year before Dust. Its gona take a year for some people to wrap their tiny minds around it.

Sade Onyx
Posted - 2010.06.17 12:55:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: Merouk Baas
OMG 20 mil in 2 weeks! ROFL


OMG, another one that doesnt yet understand, ROFL

Radix Salvilines
legion industries ltd
AAA Citizens
Posted - 2010.06.17 15:20:00 - [57]
 

"20mil in less than 2 weeks" haha thats gold :P

I make 60mil in less than 2 weeks doing actually nothing (not counting autopiloting between agents) from my 6 lvl4 R&D agents :P

we could make a cool new forum game out of that btw.

"I make xx isk in less than 2 weeks" game :P

Vexidious
Posted - 2010.06.17 16:43:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Sade Onyx

Dont you understand the meaning of passive?... it doesnt matter what you can DO to make more money, its what you DONT have to do to make money in PI.


Do you understand the meaning of passive? Hint: 100+ clicks every day, plus hauling is not passive.

kano donn
New Path
Posted - 2010.06.17 17:44:00 - [59]
 

I live in null and purely mining the raw resources, i make about 40 mill a day.
This is wonderful since i have them set up for the 96 hour cycle, i just come back once a day to empty my storage. Very nice now that RL makes it so i can not rat.

Illectroculus Defined
No Bull Ships
Posted - 2010.06.17 18:49:00 - [60]
 

yes you can make more money by missioning, mining, ratting or a bunch of other activities - but I find that It's quite easy to restart my extractors during those moments when I'd otherwise be waiting for stuff to happen.

Warping from station to belt, waiting for rat to die, waiting for mining lasers to cycle, waiting cloaked at a safe spot, watching the shield damage on some effing sov structure dropping agonizingly slowly. I use these times to manage my market orders too.

Yes the UI is offensively badly designed and doesn't follow any of the established eve online UI rules and this interferes with the 'enjoyment'. My only real time devoted to PI is the time taken to drop the command centers and move stuff to and from the customs offices. Based on that I'm ahead, and ahead by a long way.

But I strongly encourage people to quit the business so my profits can improve.


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