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Jurai Talar
Posted - 2010.06.18 17:46:00 - [211]
 

I'll throw in my 2 cents. The presence of alts in EVE reminds me of when other MMOs have uber equipment that can only be purchased from a RL money cash shop. Those players who pay more RL money get a substantial in-game advantage over the other players who do not. I'm not saying that it is a good thing or a bad thing but I personally don't care for alts since they break immersion.

I don't see any feasable way that CCP could stop the use of alts but maybe they could create game mechanics that could be used in place of the most common alt activites.


Heaven's Eye
Posted - 2010.06.18 17:47:00 - [212]
 

Originally by: Fikreta
Edited by: Fikreta on 08/06/2010 12:15:40
Unfortunately, what they apparently don't realize is that alt zergs are damaging every single aspect of this game, turning it into one ridiculously shallow carebear fluffy happy land where everyone is free to do whatever he wants easily evading REAL and long term consequences for their actions.


There is a consequence for having fun? In a game? REAL? Long term?

What

The

****?

Kid, are you too nerdy to step outside and smell the flowers of the skate park asphalt?

This. Is. A. ****ing. Game. Get that through your nerd head. Who sits tens of hours in front of EVE like you probrably do and help others move carriers? orcas?

I have 4 accounts, I can afford 4 accounts, so I have 4 accounts. If you can't afford 4 accounts, not my problem.

1 account = 80% isk grinding to have 20% of fun.
4 accounts = 100% isk grinding with 3 accounts, 100% fun station spinning or PvPing with 1 account.

You say we have to use other players? Sounds good. But I don't pay 15$ a month to move your sorry ass carebear orca. If people are willing, good for them, but I for one wouldn't. You seem to not grasp the aspect that in a game people do what they want to do, it is a way to escape rea life BS that you want to put in this game LOL stupid ****.

"Normal activities in the game become a chore, because while in a sandbox environment you shouldn’t trust others without foundation, in a sandbox game with MCS you’re unable to trust others, regardless of past interaction with them."

They are a chore because you are the only one on EVE who doesn't have a second account! Haha *****. Why would I trust anyone on a game? It's more fun than gambling!

"you WILL enter easy game mode the very minute you start your second account..."

What are you waiting for? Thursday paycheck? Isn't that a good thing? The game is complicated enough.

Judging by the character you chose to create (which is a girl) you probrably take this game too seriously, at which point you must lift your 400 pound ass and go outside for a jog and get a social life with REAL women.

omgfreemoniez
Posted - 2010.06.18 17:51:00 - [213]
 

Edited by: omgfreemoniez on 18/06/2010 17:51:21
1 account with +1,000,000,000 isk a month from the money you would have paid for your other 3 accounts = 100% fun Smile
You could lose a couple T2 cruisers a week, or a t2 fit BC a day, without breaking a sweat. Just on money saved from not having alts.

Heaven's Eye
Posted - 2010.06.18 17:53:00 - [214]
 

Originally by: omgfreemoniez
Edited by: omgfreemoniez on 18/06/2010 17:51:21
1 account with +1,000,000,000 isk a month from the money you would have paid for your other 3 accounts = 100% fun Smile
You could lose a couple T2 cruisers a week, or a t2 fit BC a day, without breaking a sweat. Just on money saved from not having alts.


Sure, but i like managing many accounts, cuz then i can skill up 4 characters and eventually perhaps get them all in pvp ships? or 3 in a logi ship and 1 attacking Laughing

1Ekrid1
Posted - 2010.06.18 18:21:00 - [215]
 

Edited by: 1Ekrid1 on 18/06/2010 18:54:01
Edited by: 1Ekrid1 on 18/06/2010 18:36:35
Edited by: 1Ekrid1 on 18/06/2010 18:28:09
Originally by: Creepin
Edited by: Creepin on 18/06/2010 17:19:15
Originally by: Selinate
I agree with the OP also. Access to 2 or more accounts for players give an unfair advantage to those without the capacity (or want) to have more than 1 account.

Are you... serious? Like, you're really telling that people who invested more of their time/effort into certain activity (playing eve in this example) shouldn't have any advantages over those who invested (noticeably) less time/effort? Sounds like an idiocy for me. Rolling Eyes

Or may be I get it wrong and you're just telling that playing eve is conceptually different than all other hobbies/activities around, which (surprise!) always gives advantages for those who invested more? Very Happy



Lets put it simply, there's a reason steroids are banned frm sports. there's a reason for weight classes in boxing and other sorts of physical combat competitions.

its for fairness and the thought of being the best on the most fair ground. In war and real fighting, anything you can take advantage of goes, in games, such as boxing and the olympics, fairness among competitors is what counts just as much.

You're saying you want to have as much an unfair advantage as you can get just because you can get it? thats the opposite of the gamer spirit. its people like you that hack vision in starcraft because you cant handle the thought of losing fairly, and would rather win unfairly.

You're paying more money to win over people with one account. admit it and lets stop being denying choobs about it.

Originally by: Jurai Talar
I'll throw in my 2 cents. The presence of alts in EVE reminds me of when other MMOs have uber equipment that can only be purchased from a RL money cash shop. Those players who pay more RL money get a substantial in-game advantage over the other players who do not. I'm not saying that it is a good thing or a bad thing but I personally don't care for alts since they break immersion.

I don't see any feasable way that CCP could stop the use of alts but maybe they could create game mechanics that could be used in place of the most common alt activites.




There's this game called I dont know what, but it was korean and "free" had a full 3d client, etc, but if you did buy their "lune" game money, you could access very powerful items that you wouldnt get otherwise. you could also trade it for assloads of zeni or zuni, whatever the game currency was. It had 3 class types for males and 3 for females, but basically it boild down to this:

I left because when they introduced lune people that pay it basically immediately gave huge power to everyone else. hmmm, 10 alt accounts working at slave upkeep for 1 account to buy a titan that no legitimate single account can get? sounds like the same deal.

Beyond corp thieving, and actual real people working together, a single account using 10 alt accounts to get a titan is the same thing as simplying paying real money for CCP to give it to you. lets drop the charade CCP, just offer us the ability to buy ships directly for money, as I could buy 2-3 GTCs and plex them for a Mothership a.k.a. supercarrier.

Milla Jovobitch
Posted - 2010.06.18 21:34:00 - [216]
 

Originally by: Fikreta
Get rid of alts


Yeah!

No, wait. You want to get rid of ME?!??!

Unacceptable.

Gloria Stitz
Posted - 2010.06.18 22:13:00 - [217]
 



JSFW

Really

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Musical Fist
Gallente
NAP Coalition
Posted - 2010.06.18 22:21:00 - [218]
 

ITT people getting trolled and still biting

BrundleMeth
Caldari
Temporal Mechanics
Posted - 2010.06.18 23:47:00 - [219]
 

Edited by: BrundleMeth on 18/06/2010 23:54:42
Originally by: 1Ekrid1
Originally by: Skye Mk2
Originally by: Fikreta
]it's just a game ffs

Well remember that next time you call someone a carebear, taste his delicious tears and/or show him a way to ---> /random MMO game here/
Very well said. QFT.

You're touching on the hypocrisy that exists among some of the most prevalent "hardcore" players of the game. I'd dare say most of the idiots that spout "HTFU" and "cry some moar, carebear" bring their own risks down and close to zero with the use of alts.




QFT FTW



Any accusations of Trolling is used with the same judiciousness around here as accusations of people being terrorists to turn public opinion against them.

its silly scare tactics from children who would rather not argue the point because they dont want to lose so call it trolling to try to invalidate it that way. funny thing is that truth is truth no matter if only one person believes it, or even if noone beliees it. it still exists.

so keep claiming people are trolls just because you disagree with them guiys/mods, Im sure that makes you very mature and useful to the development of eve into a better game than it is right now. pat yourselves on the back for a job well done in crying "troll" to try to win arguments.
Um, I wasn't arguing. Personally I think your a clown not worth trying to prove anything to. But you do make me laugh, you take yourself quite seriously. You need to relax or go take a big dump or say something else profound lol...



you take it seriously enough to call me names and repost so I figure you could use a dump yourself, since you obviously care too much but of course the "hey lets not be so serious guys lol ur silly" argument is the recourse of failed intellectuals Laughing much as you say you're laughing at me Im laughing at you trying to be "too cool" to make yourself feel less inferior. ugh
I'm fat and 50 anything but cool. Serious? No, but this is funny. And take a look at most of your other threads started. EVERYONE is laughing at you...




Originally by: Heaven's Eye
You seem to not grasp the aspect that in a game people do what they want to do, it is a way to escape realife BS that you want to put in this game LOL stupid ****.
Yep, I play EVE how I want to play it. Don't need anyone's permission...

Fikreta
Posted - 2010.06.19 06:55:00 - [220]
 

Edited by: Fikreta on 19/06/2010 07:12:11
Originally by: Creepin
Like, you're really telling that people who invested more of their time/effort into certain activity (playing eve in this example) shouldn't have any advantages over those who invested (noticeably) less time/effort?

No, I'm not telling that. Players who invest more time/effort in game, know more people willing to help and work together, or are just plain smarter will always have advantage. That's how it should be. That's NOT how it is now. And it's only getting worse.

Originally by: Heaven's Eye
There is a consequence for having fun? In a game? REAL? Long term?

Might sound strange, I know, but EVE was originally designed around that idea: to provide real (ingame 'real') long term consequences for your actions. It's the major part of fun. Alas, those consequences are brought to brink of extinction with the plague of alts and multiboxing. Asking such questions, you seem to be quite well aware of the fact that there are no consequences for you.

Originally by: Heaven's Eye
I have 4 accounts, I can afford 4 accounts, so I have 4 accounts. If you can't afford 4 accounts, not my problem.
Good for you, you're my idol. By the way, did I say that I don't have other account? And why is that important for this discussion in first place? Trust me: I know what it means when I say "you WILL enter easy game mode the very minute you start your second account".

Originally by: Heaven's Eye
The game is complicated enough.

No it's not. It's only one huge fluffy time sink.

Originally by: 1Ekrid1
Lets drop the charade CCP, just offer us the ability to buy ships directly for money.

Yeah, but don't stop with ships - give us skills that can be bought as well. Finally, it all comes down to question of how much rl money someone can/wants to throw to this game. Right? Sure, but wait... we can legally buy skills even now?

Shinjin Malvek
Amarr
Phoenix Accord
SRS.
Posted - 2010.06.19 09:46:00 - [221]
 

I must confess I didn't read all the pages of this thread but I feel the need to say that I have a big pair!!! I am Shinjin Malvek, this is my main since early 2007 and have no other accounts. Oh and if you have any Minmatar slave girls handy I could use one or many depending on the price. I don't get out much lol Razz


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