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suckitdonks
Posted - 2010.06.02 02:52:00 - [1]
 

Im trying to find good fits for my Gila. I need help. Please dont suggest expensive faction fits. I just want good viable T1 fits. It doesnt have to be fast, it just has to survive well enough to be able to solo most L4 missions.

Klazktrknuitzksalikamono
Posted - 2010.06.02 04:32:00 - [2]
 

Use an Ishtar for missions, It's less expensive and you can passive-shield it for ridiculous Kin/Therm resists.

GyokZoli
Caldari
Sanctum of Citizens
Posted - 2010.06.02 08:42:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: suckitdonks
Im trying to find good fits for my Gila. I need help. Please dont suggest expensive faction fits. I just want good viable T1 fits. It doesnt have to be fast, it just has to survive well enough to be able to solo most L4 missions.


[Gila, Gila passive]
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I

Y-S8 Hydrocarbon I Afterburners
Viscoelastic EM Ward Salubrity I
Additional Thermal Barrier Emitter I
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Drone Navigation Computer I

'Arbalest' Assault Missile Launcher, Sabretooth Light Missile
'Arbalest' Assault Missile Launcher, Sabretooth Light Missile
'Arbalest' Assault Missile Launcher, Sabretooth Light Missile
[empty high slot]
Drone Link Augmentor I

Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I

Hobgoblin I x5
Hammerhead I x5
Ogre I x5

369 uniform defence and 360 DPS with Ogres.


Run the AB all the time, then you'll be fine. The launchers is for against those webber and scrambler frigs, so you don't have to call your ogres back.
But of course the more modules you can swap to T2 the better. Makes a big difference.


[Gila, Gila passive]
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II

10MN Afterburner II
Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II
Heat Dissipation Amplifier II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Drone Navigation Computer I

Assault Missile Launcher II, Sabretooth Light Missile
Assault Missile Launcher II, Sabretooth Light Missile
Assault Missile Launcher II, Sabretooth Light Missile
[empty high slot]
Drone Link Augmentor I

Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I

Ogre II x5

427 uniform defence and 475 DPS with Ogre IIs.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.06.02 09:12:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Tippia on 02/06/2010 09:11:59
Originally by: suckitdonks
Please dont suggest expensive faction fits. I just want good viable T1 fits.
The problem is, the Gila kind of deserves T2 or better to really shine… If you want to (or have to) scrape by on T1, I'd suggest the Drake.

edit: silly word filter

Keitaro Baka
Babylon Scientific and Industrial Enterprises
Babylon Project
Posted - 2010.06.02 09:53:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Tippia
Edited by: Tippia on 02/06/2010 09:11:59
Originally by: suckitdonks
Please dont suggest expensive faction fits. I just want good viable T1 fits.
The problem is, the Gila kind of deserves T2 or better to really shine… If you want to (or have to) scrape by on T1, I'd suggest the Drake.


qft

Without T2 resistance mods you really shouldn't use one. And without t2 drones and assuming you lack the cruiser skills anyway, why bother? Just drake it

suckitdonks
Posted - 2010.06.02 12:33:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Keitaro Baka
Originally by: Tippia
Edited by: Tippia on 02/06/2010 09:11:59
Originally by: suckitdonks
Please dont suggest expensive faction fits. I just want good viable T1 fits.
The problem is, the Gila kind of deserves T2 or better to really shine… If you want to (or have to) scrape by on T1, I'd suggest the Drake.


qft

Without T2 resistance mods you really shouldn't use one. And without t2 drones and assuming you lack the cruiser skills anyway, why bother? Just drake it


Who said I didnt have T2 drones? And I dont remember asking people about my skills. I just want T1 fittings lol

Kazuros
Posted - 2010.06.02 14:21:00 - [7]
 

Why? Are you cheap? or just stupid? both?

DTson Gauur
Caldari
Blend.
Nulli Tertius
Posted - 2010.06.02 14:44:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: suckitdonks
Im trying to find good fits for my Gila. I need help. Please dont suggest expensive faction fits. I just want good viable T1 fits. It doesnt have to be fast, it just has to survive well enough to be able to solo most L4 missions.


As others have already pointed out... You really are out of your mind trying to solo Lvl4 missions in T1 fit Gila. Either train up to use T2 mods or go faction.

Xai Rayna
Posted - 2010.06.02 16:34:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Kazuros
Why? Are you cheap? or just stupid? both?


If he's cheap, I doubt he could afford a Gila in the first place. I'm leaning towards the latter.

Backho
Posted - 2010.06.02 17:17:00 - [10]
 

Melt your gila in the market and buy some decent lv 4 mission running battleship.

Do you know what gila means in a country? it means crazy.

Yes OP. ur crazy.
You NEED T2 to have enough tank on the gila. Even then, you will severely gimp your weapon systems with almost no drone modules or missile support modules.

Its just not designed to do it. really


suckitdonks
Posted - 2010.06.02 17:43:00 - [11]
 

nice to know you're all a bunch of ****s. im not stupid nor am i cheap. I only have about 220mil since I am working on a second character for the time being and dont have the money to transfer it to a 2nd account so both can train at the same time. obviously i will eventually faction fit the gila but for now i want to find a decent T1 fitting that will give me atleast 50k ehp while not having the cap run out in 2 minutes or less. L3 missions dont give enough to faction fit the ship right now or it would be.

Kazuros
Posted - 2010.06.02 17:58:00 - [12]
 

[Gila, New Setup 1]
Multiphasic Bolt Array I
Multiphasic Bolt Array I
Power Diagnostic System I
Power Diagnostic System I

Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Photon Scattering Field I
Photon Scattering Field I
Explosion Dampening Field I
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction

'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Scourge Heavy Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Scourge Heavy Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Scourge Heavy Missile
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I

There, 60k ehp with my skills, probably ~50 with yours. Learn to EFT, its the bread and butter of trolls.


suckitdonks
Posted - 2010.06.02 18:08:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Kazuros
[Gila, New Setup 1]
Multiphasic Bolt Array I
Multiphasic Bolt Array I
Power Diagnostic System I
Power Diagnostic System I

Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Photon Scattering Field I
Photon Scattering Field I
Explosion Dampening Field I
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction

'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Scourge Heavy Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Scourge Heavy Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Scourge Heavy Missile
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I

There, 60k ehp with my skills, probably ~50 with yours. Learn to EFT, its the bread and butter of trolls.




I have been using both EFT and pyfa.. but being that I am still relatively new to both and to EVE I am still not proficient in fittings yet.

suckitdonks
Posted - 2010.06.02 19:04:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Kazuros
[Gila, New Setup 1]
Multiphasic Bolt Array I
Multiphasic Bolt Array I
Power Diagnostic System I
Power Diagnostic System I

Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Photon Scattering Field I
Photon Scattering Field I
Explosion Dampening Field I
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction

'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Scourge Heavy Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Scourge Heavy Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Scourge Heavy Missile
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I

There, 60k ehp with my skills, probably ~50 with yours. Learn to EFT, its the bread and butter of trolls.




I took what you have here and slightly modified it and with my skills the EHP is 57k with a shield recharge rate of 304.1 hp/s and while it is an omni tank.. the cap lasts just under 6 minutes with everything on

[Gila, modified]
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Diagnostic System I
Beta Reactor Control: Diagnostic System I

Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
V-M15 Braced Multispectral Shield Matrix
V-M15 Braced Multispectral Shield Matrix
V-M15 Braced Multispectral Shield Matrix

'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Scourge Heavy Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Scourge Heavy Missile
Drone Link Augmentor I
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I

Drones:

5x T2 hob's
5x T2 Hammerhead
5x Ogre I
5x Wasp I

would this work for L4 missions?

Mike712
Posted - 2010.06.02 19:16:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Mike712 on 02/06/2010 19:17:51

Some rather mediocre fits so far, if you're going to use a gila here's how you should fit it:

[Gila, Gila: PvE L4]
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I

10MN Afterburner II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Domination Kinetic Deflection Amplifier
Domination Heat Dissipation Amplifier

'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher
Drone Link Augmentor I
Small Tractor Beam I

Medium Core Defence Field Purger II
Medium Core Defence Field Purger II
Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I


Garde II x5
Ogre II x5
Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5

Xai Rayna
Posted - 2010.06.02 19:18:00 - [16]
 

Tell me what system you're going to be in, so I can come suicide gank your lol-fit gila. YARRRR!!

suckitdonks
Posted - 2010.06.02 19:22:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Mike712
Edited by: Mike712 on 02/06/2010 19:17:51

Some rather mediocre fits so far, if you're going to use a gila here's how you should fit it:

[Gila, Gila: PvE L4]
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I

10MN Afterburner II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Domination Kinetic Deflection Amplifier
Domination Heat Dissipation Amplifier

'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher
Drone Link Augmentor I
Small Tractor Beam I

Medium Core Defence Field Purger II
Medium Core Defence Field Purger II
Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I


Garde II x5
Ogre II x5
Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5



what part of T1 fit do you not get? or do you just not know how to read

Xai Rayna
Posted - 2010.06.02 19:45:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: suckitdonks
Originally by: Mike712
Edited by: Mike712 on 02/06/2010 19:17:51

Some rather mediocre fits so far, if you're going to use a gila here's how you should fit it:

[Gila, Gila: PvE L4]
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I

10MN Afterburner II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Domination Kinetic Deflection Amplifier
Domination Heat Dissipation Amplifier

'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher
Drone Link Augmentor I
Small Tractor Beam I

Medium Core Defence Field Purger II
Medium Core Defence Field Purger II
Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I


Garde II x5
Ogre II x5
Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5



what part of T1 fit do you not get? or do you just not know how to read


Emphasis is mine. I'd argue that you're the one that doesn't know how to read. Majority of the posters in this thread are highly recommending that you should only fly a Gila with T2 or better...

suckitdonks
Posted - 2010.06.02 19:57:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: suckitdonks
nice to know you're all a bunch of ****s. im not stupid nor am i cheap. I only have about 220mil since I am working on a second character for the time being and dont have the money to transfer it to a 2nd account so both can train at the same time. obviously i will eventually faction fit the gila but for now i want to find a decent T1 fitting that will give me atleast 50k ehp while not having the cap run out in 2 minutes or less. L3 missions dont give enough to faction fit the ship right now or it would be.


maybe you need to reREAD this.. I am basically going to be restarting with the new character.. I am using http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=242786 to train up the learning skills and then going from there. I will eventually put T2 on it, however until that plan is through training(which I am about 1/3rd through it being that Cybernetics IV is starting training as I type this) I will be using this character to do missions to build up isk so that I can fit it better eventually.. SO ALL I WANT IS A T1 FIT THAT WILL LET ME SOLO L FRIGGIN 4'S UNTIL THEN.. IS THAT SO HARD TO ASK!!!

Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
Posted - 2010.06.02 20:00:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Xai Rayna
Originally by: suckitdonks
Originally by: Mike712
Edited by: Mike712 on 02/06/2010 19:17:51

Some rather mediocre fits so far, if you're going to use a gila here's how you should fit it:

[Gila, Gila: PvE L4]
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I

10MN Afterburner II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Domination Kinetic Deflection Amplifier
Domination Heat Dissipation Amplifier

'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher
Drone Link Augmentor I
Small Tractor Beam I

Medium Core Defence Field Purger II
Medium Core Defence Field Purger II
Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I


Garde II x5
Ogre II x5
Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5



what part of T1 fit do you not get? or do you just not know how to read


Emphasis is mine. I'd argue that you're the one that doesn't know how to read. Majority of the posters in this thread are highly recommending that you should only fly a Gila with T2 or better...



And it's his perorgative to ignore them, frankly. It's his thread. He didn't ask for T2 fits, nor faction fits, nor indeed on whether his Gila would be so much better with these expensive modules. No, he asked for T1 fits, and he got nothing but abuse for his troubles.



~Pompous

Indeterminacy
THORN Syndicate
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2010.06.02 20:04:00 - [21]
 

Captain P. is right lotta dudes waving the ole ePeen around but...tbh, with a name like suckitdonks I think raging more on the forums will help you get what you want.

Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
Posted - 2010.06.02 20:09:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: Zhilia Mann on 02/06/2010 20:10:58
Originally by: Mike712
Edited by: Mike712 on 02/06/2010 19:17:51

Some rather mediocre fits so far, if you're going to use a gila here's how you should fit it:

[Gila, Gila: PvE L4]
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I

10MN Afterburner II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Domination Kinetic Deflection Amplifier
Domination Heat Dissipation Amplifier

'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher
Drone Link Augmentor I
Small Tractor Beam I

Medium Core Defence Field Purger II
Medium Core Defence Field Purger II
Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I


Garde II x5
Ogre II x5
Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5



I endorse this fit. Any Gila that isn't built around at least one omni and an AB is wrong. I'd personally drop to T1 rigs and swap an SPR for a PDU, but that's more a matter of taste.

Originally by: suckitdonks
what part of T1 fit do you not get? or do you just not know how to read


No, you're being told how to fit a Gila well; you're just not understanding the basic message. Which since you've been so gracious for the help you've received I'll go ahead and make explicit.

There are no good T1 fits for the Gila. It's a highly CPU limited drone boat that absolutely has to shield tank but only has four mids to do so. If you absolutely had to I suppose you could do something really creative like, say, this:

[Gila, Gila: PvE L4 T1]
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Diagnostic System I

Y-S8 Hydrocarbon I Afterburners
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Ditrigonal Thermal Barrier Crystallization I
Non-Inertial Ballistic Screen Augmentation I

'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Drone Link Augmentor I
[empty high slot]

Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I


Garde II x5
Ogre II x5
Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5

(Edit: you'd have to swap another SPR for a PDU to get it cap stable. You know, if that's your thing.)

Fit should run about 30 mil.

Although to be perfectly honest, I'd strongly consider selling the Gila rather than putting a T1 fit on it -- and that's just dead honest advice. Not meant to insult your skills or your wallet or whatever; it's just the same advice I'd give anyone trying to fit a Gila with T1 gear. Frankly I'd be amazed if the T1 fit I just gave you has enough CPU for your character to fit it; the mods are all the lowest possible non-faction CPU, I have perfect fitting skills, and I only have 10 CPU to spare.

So. Shrug. Take it or leave it. You've been given good advice in the thread.

Zeede Qinhua
Posted - 2010.06.02 20:26:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: Zeede Qinhua on 02/06/2010 20:27:41
suckitdonks: I got the same attitude when I wanted people to critique my Typhoon fitting for level 4 missions. At the time I had less than 5 million SP, and people were telling me I was a fool for trying to fly one w/ so few SP.

Well, it wasn't optimal, but I flew it carefully and I was okay. It really shines now (although now I fly a different ship for missioning, but it was adequate before).

That being said, a cruiser has no place in level 4 missions, IMO. Even a well-fit battlecruiser is less-than-optimal.

You may complete missions, but they may take you two or three times as long in a battleship, and you run a lot higher risk of losing your ship.

There are some fits here, just adjust anything faction or tech2 down to a meta 3 or 4 tech1 module. As people have forewarned you, the fit is less-than-optimal.

There are some ships that require some "high-octane" modules, and this is one of them.

Zeede

P.S. Even if you do decide to go all t1 with this ship, PLEASE fit t2 drones. Especially sentries. In a cruiser you're fast enough to drop them and then fly around (to reduce damage taken) and back to scoop them up when you're done.

Edited for punctuation and spelling.

suckitdonks
Posted - 2010.06.02 20:31:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Indeterminacy
Captain P. is right lotta dudes waving the ole ePeen around but...tbh, with a name like suckitdonks I think raging more on the forums will help you get what you want.


I play poker, and if you do too then you know what it means.. If not, then lets just say never make a name for a game after taking several BAD beats lol.. which is another reason for the new character.. But I'm not going to just transfer all my stuff to the new character and delete this one until after the new one is ready. So until then I am missioning with this one. tbh.. I really dont care what you all think of me or my name. Obviously it's very hard for all of you to read and think at the same time. If I had the money I would go faction fit and if my skills were up there I would have T2.. but considering I stopped training so I could make a new character I wont have T2 for awhile.. so meta 4's will have to do.


Now I know why so many people like to PVP.. so they can blowup a-holes like you trolls.

suckitdonks
Posted - 2010.06.02 20:37:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Zeede Qinhua
Edited by: Zeede Qinhua on 02/06/2010 20:27:41
suckitdonks: I got the same attitude when I wanted people to critique my Typhoon fitting for level 4 missions. At the time I had less than 5 million SP, and people were telling me I was a fool for trying to fly one w/ so few SP.

Well, it wasn't optimal, but I flew it carefully and I was okay. It really shines now (although now I fly a different ship for missioning, but it was adequate before).

That being said, a cruiser has no place in level 4 missions, IMO. Even a well-fit battlecruiser is less-than-optimal.

You may complete missions, but they may take you two or three times as long in a battleship, and you run a lot higher risk of losing your ship.

There are some fits here, just adjust anything faction or tech2 down to a meta 3 or 4 tech1 module. As people have forewarned you, the fit is less-than-optimal.

There are some ships that require some "high-octane" modules, and this is one of them.

Zeede

P.S. Even if you do decide to go all t1 with this ship, PLEASE fit t2 drones. Especially sentries. In a cruiser you're fast enough to drop them and then fly around (to reduce damage taken) and back to scoop them up when you're done.

Edited for punctuation and spelling.


I dont have sentries.. and as far as how long the missions take to complete.. for now im not really caring about isk/hr im just looking to have fun.. when I get my stuff to where i want it and start missioning to pay for plex's THEN i'll worry about isk/hr :P but like I said.. i just play for fun.

Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
Posted - 2010.06.02 20:57:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: suckitdonks
I dont have sentries..


A) This just reaffirms my confidence that you should sell the Gila. I know, I know, it's a cool ship and all that. But, much like the Ishtar, it only really works well with sentries. At least for L4s; for L3s it does fine.

B) If you do stick with it without sentries you're free to drop the omni and the SDA. I'd suggest putting in another either another LSE or (my preference) a drone navigation computer plus another purger, which actually does help alot with CPU issues. So maybe even tweak the highs a bit (you just don't want your heavy drones 85 km away when they suddenly draw agro). Something like this:

[Gila, Gila: PvE L4 T1 no sentries]
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Diagnostic System I
Beta Reactor Control: Diagnostic System I

Y-S8 Hydrocarbon I Afterburners
Drone Navigation Computer I
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Ditrigonal Thermal Barrier Crystallization I
Non-Inertial Ballistic Screen Augmentation I

'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Salvager I
Small Tractor Beam I

Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I


Ogre II x5
Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5

Like I said, definitely not something I would do. But hey, it's a game and you can play it however you want, right?

suckitdonks
Posted - 2010.06.02 21:14:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Zhilia Mann
Originally by: suckitdonks
I dont have sentries..


A) This just reaffirms my confidence that you should sell the Gila. I know, I know, it's a cool ship and all that. But, much like the Ishtar, it only really works well with sentries. At least for L4s; for L3s it does fine.




I just love how well you people read.. I will eventually have sentries.. Just because I dont have them right now doesnt mean I wont get them.. I have no intention of selling the Gila. You people have been an ENORMOUS amount of help.. NOT! All you people that dont know how to read should go play WoW with the other little kiddies.

Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
Posted - 2010.06.02 21:53:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: suckitdonks
I just love how well you people read.. I will eventually have sentries.. Just because I dont have them right now doesnt mean I wont get them.. I have no intention of selling the Gila. You people have been an ENORMOUS amount of help.. NOT! All you people that dont know how to read should go play WoW with the other little kiddies.


Dude, I acknowledged my opinion, stated that you probably wouldn't agree, and then gave you a fit that met your specs to the t. Being abusive to people who are trying to help will not get you additional help.

But I'm in a very generous mood today, so I'll go ahead and break down the fit I posted and the choices I made.

Quote:
[Gila, Gila: PvE L4 T1 no sentries]
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Diagnostic System I
Beta Reactor Control: Diagnostic System I


SPRs are the classic passive tanking low slot modules, but I've long thought that they're overrated. Sure, they give you great shield recharge but they're absolute hell on your cap. PDUs on the other hand increase both shield recharge and cap recharge. On a ship that uses speed to help mitigate damage -- like the Gila -- a mix of the two can really help you keep running your AB and end up mitigating more damage than a straight SPR setup.

Quote:
Y-S8 Hydrocarbon I Afterburners


You could swap this for a T1 if you'd like, but the Y-S8 will do more for you in the long run. And it's just not that spendy.

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Drone Navigation Computer I


Assuming that you're going to be using Gallente drones, well, they're slow. Sometimes painfully slow. A DNC will help fix that. 1312.5 m/s on Ogres over 1050 m/s is a huge difference.

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Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Ditrigonal Thermal Barrier Crystallization I
Non-Inertial Ballistic Screen Augmentation I


That's the rest of your tank. It's obviously for Gurista/Serpentis missions, but it isn't that bad. Increasing your total shield amount will make sure that the recharge is faster. Increasing your resists will make sure you take less damage.

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'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile


Might as well apply more damage, right? Thunderbolts are actually a very poor choice if you are in fact facing Guristas/Serpentis, so swap them out for something more relevant.


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Salvager I
Small Tractor Beam I


Extra income. Why not?

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Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I


If you were using sentries, one SDA would be very good to have. But since you're not, you might as well maximize your tank. Purgers are awesome for that. The downside being that they inflate your sig so much that it cuts in to your whole tanking-by-moving-fast thing. Still, likely worth the tradeoff.

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Ogre II x5
Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5


Ok, so drones to taste. But if you want to maximize damage against pretty much everything, this is the right mix. The drones are T2 because T2 drones are massively better than T1 drones.

Swapping to Caldari drones is actually an interesting idea that I've toyed with, especially with the DNC, but starting out with Gallente drones isn't a bad idea.

So yeah. If that wasn't helpful and it means I can't read and I should go play WoW for the first time ever (though I will admit to logging on to Everquest once in 1999; it sucked), sorry. But that's about the best I can do even when I'm immensely bored.

suckitdonks
Posted - 2010.06.02 22:13:00 - [29]
 

I was referring to the fact that I stated.. more than once.. that I wouldnt be training this character anymore.. EVER... since I was training a new one that would be better.. the fit itself you noticed I didnt qoute.. Or atleast since you obviously read all of it or you wouldnt have gotten the point about the people trying to "help" going to play WoW.. anyway, yes the fit is fine.. it meets the requirement of being T1.. so obviously you werent being told to go play WoW.. although to suggest that I would sell off the Gila is just preposterous

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2010.06.02 22:17:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: GyokZoli
Originally by: suckitdonks
Im trying to find good fits for my Gila. I need help. Please dont suggest expensive faction fits. I just want good viable T1 fits. It doesnt have to be fast, it just has to survive well enough to be able to solo most L4 missions.


[Gila, Gila passive]
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I

Y-S8 Hydrocarbon I Afterburners
Viscoelastic EM Ward Salubrity I
Additional Thermal Barrier Emitter I
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Drone Navigation Computer I

'Arbalest' Assault Missile Launcher, Sabretooth Light Missile
'Arbalest' Assault Missile Launcher, Sabretooth Light Missile
'Arbalest' Assault Missile Launcher, Sabretooth Light Missile
[empty high slot]
Drone Link Augmentor I

Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I

Hobgoblin I x5
Hammerhead I x5
Ogre I x5

369 uniform defence and 360 DPS with Ogres.


Run the AB all the time, then you'll be fine. The launchers is for against those webber and scrambler frigs, so you don't have to call your ogres back.
But of course the more modules you can swap to T2 the better. Makes a big difference.


[Gila, Gila passive]
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II

10MN Afterburner II
Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II
Heat Dissipation Amplifier II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Drone Navigation Computer I

Assault Missile Launcher II, Sabretooth Light Missile
Assault Missile Launcher II, Sabretooth Light Missile
Assault Missile Launcher II, Sabretooth Light Missile
[empty high slot]
Drone Link Augmentor I

Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I

Ogre II x5

427 uniform defence and 475 DPS with Ogre IIs.



Why would he swap out the meta 4 SPRs for T2? Just curious.


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