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Flaming Lies
Posted - 2011.02.28 14:07:00 - [211]

Dark Evil Undead Ponies Productions

Posted - 2011.02.28 14:25:00 - [212]

Jade Knight07
Posted - 2011.03.01 06:47:00 - [213]


Persephone Lee
Posted - 2011.03.02 18:26:00 - [214]

Originally by: EdFromHumanResources
Edited by: EdFromHumanResources on 31/05/2010 21:47:31
This is ******ed. Pretty much all dreads are larger than the wyvern. A rokh is over 3/4ths the size of one, same for a hyperion. While you're at it change their name, super carrier is an awful awful awful name. Even assault carrier is better.
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According to CCP's own in game tool the lists of all dreads are 3.4k. The Aeon is 5.6k, Nyx is 3.2k, Wyvern is 3.3k, and Hel is 4.0k. By their own in game tool a wyvern and nyx are *definitely* not too large to dock.

I am completely against letting supercaps dock so at least make us larger for the love of christ.


Posted - 2011.03.02 23:52:00 - [215]


Neti Keire
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Sanctuary Pact
Posted - 2011.03.03 00:44:00 - [216]

Lisa Waen
Posted - 2011.03.03 05:56:00 - [217]

Truly, if all ship models were scaled to meet their currently listed volumes, this issue would probably be corrected. But a half-fix is better than none, so...


Joshawu Minden
Posted - 2011.03.04 07:43:00 - [218]

All capital ships need to be smaller than my rifter!
-JK, I am support!

Miasmic Truth
In Pennae of Mors
Posted - 2011.03.04 14:53:00 - [219]

Supported, always thought the sizes were off

Posted - 2011.03.05 18:30:00 - [220]

This suggestion is supported.

At the same time I would suggest checking the balance factor for these ships. Maybe it is the case already - a titan in full gank setup should have higher DPS and much higher EHP than a gank SC. Titans should be the "is all - end all" line of ships that use other capital ships as support.

Posted - 2011.03.06 01:43:00 - [221]

Need to make regular carriers a bit bigger aswell, supported

Brad 0123v
Posted - 2011.03.06 01:57:00 - [222]


Jimmy Ray
Posted - 2011.03.08 11:45:00 - [223]


Naomi Knight
Posted - 2011.03.08 12:12:00 - [224]

or just remove them from the game
would be even better :P

Black Rise Security Division
Posted - 2011.03.11 01:52:00 - [225]

All capitals must be massive, not bs sized. So far only the titans are.

Reaver Glitterstim
Legio Geminatus
Posted - 2011.04.03 00:33:00 - [226]

Edited by: Reaver Glitterstim on 03/04/2011 01:07:44
A while back I was in a fleet with lots of ships, most notably a lot of Maelstroms. There was one Nidhoggur nearby. I compared the Nidhoggur from several angles to the Maelstroms near it, and came to the conclusion that it was definitely no more than 25% longer. This went against the in-game tool which stated that its axis length was more than twice that of a Maelstrom. But even the listed value isn't so big.

I guess I have a picture to prove it. Gotta love the print screen button.

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Jonathan Malcom
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.04.03 16:52:00 - [227]

Boost all cap ship sizes. The current situation is kind of silly.

Given the attention to scale given to most other aspects of the game, I really don't understand how this (a) was implemented in it's current state and (b) stayed this way for so long.

Finious Boggs
Posted - 2011.04.03 19:43:00 - [228]

Yea, when a Maul, pull up to my carrier, it looks way to big to dock. LOL

Tyme Xandr
State Protectorate

Posted - 2011.04.04 04:50:00 - [229]

As low of a priority as this is ... supported.

Levistus Junior
Trojan Trolls
Controlled Chaos
Posted - 2011.04.04 08:08:00 - [230]


Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Posted - 2011.04.04 08:58:00 - [231]


It's a change that really makes sense.

Posted - 2011.04.04 15:29:00 - [232]

so, from what i'm getting, the topic is soley about size, not about changing the stats, sig rad, or anything like that?

if so, then make supercaps super.

to op, your pic might have been necesary to make your point, but it still stretched the first page beyond the confines of my screen.

Salus Novus
United Front Alliance
Posted - 2011.04.04 19:22:00 - [233]

Supported, I remember my first cap fight where I compared my Moros to the "awesome" Nyx. The next toy in my lineup. WTF? I was sooo disapointed when I saw how tiny it was. The moros looked way more 'super' -make my super, well, er, super plz CCP.

CaldariCitizen 3924833
Posted - 2011.04.05 07:00:00 - [234]


Martin Diss
Posted - 2011.04.05 07:25:00 - [235]


1st time i saw a Nyx, Shocked awesome ship and wtf did someone shrink it ? ugh

GeeShizzle MacCloud
Posted - 2011.04.05 12:34:00 - [236]

supported! supers should be super sized! but even so i like the command carriers idea too!

Massively Mob

Posted - 2011.04.06 05:13:00 - [237]

Go big or go home.

Somir Kal
Posted - 2011.04.06 09:06:00 - [238]

I support this on the general principle that most videogame 3D models have the ability to scale them up or down readily attached to their code. If CCP agrees with this proposal it should fall under one of the "little things" and be very simple to apply and roll into a larger list of updates. Simple and reasonable. I would say that carriers in practice shouldn't be tremendously larger than battleships, but the fact is that the STATS in game of a carrier reflect a ship that is quite some measure larger and more powerful than a battleship, so they simply should be larger. Carriers should rival Dreadnoughts in size, and Supercarriers should stand as a halfway step in size (or third-way?) between Dreads/Carriers and titans. If a Dreadnought is 0.1, and a Titan is 1.0, then a carrier should be no less than 0.1, and a supercarrier should be no less than 0.35 in terms of scale factor.

Elisa Vilerum
Posted - 2011.04.07 06:49:00 - [239]

immersion is big part of game.

4k large and 500m is obvious difference

well maybe not to guy that named them supercaps that dude have some issues.

Serenity Engineering and Transport Company
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2011.04.12 14:34:00 - [240]

Edited by: vikari on 12/04/2011 14:38:49
Edited by: vikari on 12/04/2011 14:34:24
I think planet/moon size changes were great, and honestly stations need that same love. Stations are small and in no way indicate by their size they could hold anything but a couple frigs in them. As of now capitals looks ******ed coming out of a station. with some love to stations it would be reasonable to get give that love to other caps and definitely super carriers need a big boost. They need to be at least 75% of a titan in size. No BS should look like it's 75% the size of a carrier, how the hell do all those fighters and drones fit in a carrier slightly over the size of a BS....

Has the CSM addressed this at all?

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