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Nikilaiki Ruutarhara
Caldari
Project Daedalid
Posted - 2010.06.03 09:13:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: CCP Dropbear
Originally by: Nikilaiki Ruutarhara
Oh, and Dropbear; do you at least read my insane ramblings on the Chatsubo forums? No one else seems to. Sad


Yup. I read every Sleeper-related thread again and again until my eyes bleed. Then I use text-to-speech.


So, you're saying that it's like the Ark of the Covenant from Raiders of the Lost Ark? My writing is that powerful?

I'm flattered. Laughing

All kidding aside, excellent chronicle though perhaps a bit too confusing and a bit more "tell" than "show", but I like it. In the words of Alpha from Dollhouse, "It speaks to the schizophrenic in me."

Jowen Datloran
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2010.06.03 11:01:00 - [32]
 

Edited by: Jowen Datloran on 03/06/2010 11:08:23
Too flattering, Dropbear, too flattering.Embarassed

Though, it has occurred to me, that among many other things EVE is the only modern MMORPG that I know of, where being a lore seeker/keeper is a meaningful profession on its own merit and not just a fancy name.

Speaking of the Wildfire epic arc, I have a specific problem in its storyline which you maybe should look into: It happens after you have delivered the Wildfire Khumaak to the Defiants in the mission "Glowing Embers". In the debriefing of the following mission "From Way Above" the agent Arsten Takalo starts talking about the RSS agent like it is somebody you have already heard about or encountered. But it seems to me that this is the first mention of the agent in the whole arc. At this point it makes the story quite confusing, though it gets cleared up later on.

Oh, and more story inconsistencies: The description on the Wildfire Khumaak refers to one Torus Arzad as Saint Arzad, though later the Book of Saint Arzad tells us that he is called Arzad Hamri. Could be another person, but seems unlikely.

Sorry for derailing the thread, but if I discover more story inconsistencies in the epic arcs and others, which I already have, where should I file them to?

CCP Dropbear

Posted - 2010.06.03 22:01:00 - [33]
 

Edited by: CCP Dropbear on 03/06/2010 22:01:22

I read Missions & Complexes / Eve Fiction so I can be found there. Post to wherever you think it most belongs. I wonder if EVE Gate can be used too. You could poke me with a link to a thread here on there, perhaps. Idea

I'm an easily-encouraged forum spammer, so you shouldn't have trouble finding me.

Anyways, we're aware of some current issues with the epic arcs, but I'll look into that case specifically tomorrow as well.


Bartholomeus Crane
Gallente
The Crane Family
Posted - 2010.06.03 23:18:00 - [34]
 

Edited by: Bartholomeus Crane on 03/06/2010 23:19:05
Let's deconstruct this puppy shall we?

Anoikis: a form of programmed cell-death (as mentioned). But of a specific kind. The kind where cells detach themselves from their extra-cellular matrix. Etymological basis: the state or the trait of being without a home; homeless.

If this refers to the Sleepers, it tells me they are homeless, without fixed abode, perhaps even lost, but more probably explicitly detached. Various hints from 'the mirror' enclaves, suggest to me they explicitly detached themselves from their home, i.e. body, they made themselves incorporeal, detached their mind/intelligence from the body, which is now sleeping. This is just an idea I'm playing with here.

Preamble: Allegories to first being bound/captive and then set free. There is a negative connotation though. Not remembering who bound you, and the entity that breaks the bond not being benevolent.

First section: The directors are looking at images of the mirror and the six enclaves. Hints that it is a station or a city. A city of the Sleepers? The scene plays when the wormholes were just discovered.

Creodron's headquarters is in Carirgnottin, was founded by Old Man Darieux but Roni Darieux is the current 'old man', which is nice, because he's named by the Jin-Mei senator. Why Darieux is 'her superior' is unclear, but the person they want to throw in there is 'Burreau', from an earlier chronicle. It is unclear to me who the Female Federation Jin-Mei senator is, but it appear the speaker is Darieux.

Second section: Hilen is Hilen Tukoss, Program Director, Otosela Neuropsychology Center from the Vitrauze Project chronicle, as is Professor Lianda Burreau, Creodron's lead astrophysicist. Seyllin is the planet from the wormhole incident, which has just happened. One is a Jin-Mei from Zainou Biotech and Two is Lianda, who has disappeared into the wormhole. Arii is a security agent, she's talking to Hilen. The sixth picture is a picture of the mirror. 'they' is Creodron. The senator mentioned feeding Lianda information could be the Jin-Mei.

Third section: One, the Jin-Mei from Zainou Biotech turns out to be a distraction. Ishukone is to be contacted for their previous experience with Jovians. Jovians apparently have sought after knowledge about wormholes and the Sleepers.

Fourth section: The ambassador is the Jovian ambassador, as he refers to 'our own worlds' as separate from the four empires, who we know were affected. The inner assembly refers to the inner assembly of CONCORD. It is clear that the use of Sleeper technology is supported, if not made possible through Jovian assistance. They seem to have been working on this previously. The 'truth' and the 'discovery' is about the Sleeper race, what they are, etc. The capsuleers are going to make the discovery, but it is apparently already known by 'the inner circle'. The Jovian is talking to a she. Probably not the Jin-Mei senator, but it could be Jamyl Sarum, the only female leader among the empires, but it could also be Panaja Paukonsuo, CEO of CONCORD, as later on there is separate mention of the national leaders (to be left in the dark). There is talk of an underlying network, this could refer to a network of wormholes, as it is mentioned together with 'moving undetected'. Lianda Burreau is presumed dead, last heard from at one of the mirrors. Mirrors are clearly important and key to finding out the mystery of the Sleepers. There maybe something fishy with Lianda being chosen to go in.

Final section: Acquisitions hold data, analyse data, hold coordinates, or contain AI.




Jowen Datloran
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2010.06.04 05:46:00 - [35]
 

I will be posting in the mission forum then.Wink

Aynen
Posted - 2010.06.04 11:03:00 - [36]
 

I recently talked about Ior Labron's quote at the beginning of the chronicle and applied it to Nation. The result of the conversation was that we and Kuvakei are both doing the same thing, thrying to liberate people who can only see shadows on the wall as far as our opinion of them goes. And the liberated might not be so greatfull to either us or Kuvakei. Sleepers would experience this in the same way if woken up, either by us, or by their own drones. So the quote can refer to many things.

Bartholomeus Crane
Gallente
The Crane Family
Posted - 2010.06.04 20:14:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Aynen
I recently talked about Ior Labron's quote at the beginning of the chronicle and applied it to Nation. The result of the conversation was that we and Kuvakei are both doing the same thing, thrying to liberate people who can only see shadows on the wall as far as our opinion of them goes. And the liberated might not be so greatfull to either us or Kuvakei. Sleepers would experience this in the same way if woken up, either by us, or by their own drones. So the quote can refer to many things.


That depends, if the Sleepers are the ones in the cave, and the capsuleers are the one who unlock the door, then the only thing the stanza says is that the capsuleers may not be benevolent.

If the capsuleers are the ones in the cave, and the Jovians unlock the door to our prison of lack of knowledge, then the stanza says that the Jovians may not be benevolent.

The latter explanation may be equally valid as currently the only thing we see are the shadows of the Sleepers cast on the wall of our cave.

But it could also be that both the capsuleers and the Jovians are locked in the cave, and that the knowledge of the Sleepers unlocks the door to that cave, and then the stanza is a warning that we shouldn't trust the Sleepers.

That too sounds convincing with all the warnings of bad things to happen if we do find out what's going on with the Sleepers.


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