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C C P Alliance
Posted - 2010.05.31 17:34:00 - [1]
 

Something vast and strange occurred in New Eden only a few months ago, where a cataclysmic event tore holes in space and brought brave travelers new domains to explore and conquer. The first brave traveler, now, had something else entirely on her mind...

"Anoikis" is a new EVE Chronicle written by CCP Dropbear.

Comodore John
Gallente
Trixi IFI
Posted - 2010.05.31 17:55:00 - [2]
 

First!

Reading now.

Casiella Truza
Ecliptic Rift
Posted - 2010.05.31 18:19:00 - [3]
 

Hmm. More of this new approach to storytelling... and hides enough that I will have to re-read it a few times.

XenosisReaper
Interwebs Cooter Explosion
Important Internet Spaceship League
Posted - 2010.05.31 18:45:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Comodore John
First!

Reading now.


Get out.

Also, loved it, got a bit confused before i remembered to go back and read the last CreoDon chronicle...

Alexeph Stoekai
Stoekai Corp
Posted - 2010.05.31 18:58:00 - [5]
 

Aaaaa Dropbear, what have you done?

CCP Dropbear

Posted - 2010.05.31 20:03:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Alexeph Stoekai
Aaaaa Dropbear, what have you done?



Not sure yet...I'll have to wait and see... Razz

Nikilaiki Ruutarhara
Caldari
Project Daedalid
Posted - 2010.05.31 20:04:00 - [7]
 

Quote:
Imagine if the bars to your prison were all you had ever known.

Then one day, someone appears and unlocks the door.

If they have the power to do this, then are they really the liberator?



You never remembered who it was that closed you in.


- Ior Labron.

Curiouser and curiouser, this rabbit hole gets. An excellent, veiled reference to the Allegory of the Cave. Didn't know that Ior Labron was a fan of Plato. Wink

A beautiful shadow play, I must say. Twisted Evil

Myxx
Atropos Group
Posted - 2010.05.31 20:23:00 - [8]
 

my word.

read it.

loved it.

WANT MOAR!

CCP Dropbear

Posted - 2010.05.31 20:30:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Nikilaiki Ruutarhara
An excellent, veiled reference to the Allegory of the Cave. Didn't know that Ior Labron was a fan of Plato. Wink

A beautiful shadow play, I must say. Twisted Evil


Personally I like to think Labron would be a bit more of an optimist. Twisted Evil


Nikilaiki Ruutarhara
Caldari
Project Daedalid
Posted - 2010.05.31 20:53:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Nikilaiki Ruutarhara on 31/05/2010 20:55:23
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
Originally by: Nikilaiki Ruutarhara
An excellent, veiled reference to the Allegory of the Cave. Didn't know that Ior Labron was a fan of Plato. Wink

A beautiful shadow play, I must say. Twisted Evil


Personally I like to think Labron would be a bit more of an optimist. Twisted Evil



/facepalms. Hence, my good sir, the wink. Geez, gotta ruin all my secret fun now don't you? Crying or Very sad On your point, however, I guess it depends a lot on your views of transcending one's state of being, and whether it's for the greater good or not. Enlightened self interest as opposed to, say, the alternative -paths -available.

So, we are left with this:

Quote:
Data Library: 11,799,985

Neural Network Analyzer: 1,162,057

Coordinates Database: 244,234

Drone AI Nexus: 70,726


We also have the knowledge that all science is applied. Eventually. Twisted Evil Am I getting close?

EDIT: Oh, and forgot to add; Ishukone, Intaki and the "Old Man". Nice. Cool

kano donn
New Path
Posted - 2010.05.31 20:55:00 - [11]
 

curious.

It states info about market accepting the sleeper loot, But am i right that it also hinted at a possible secret 5th subsystem?

Nishachara
True Enlightenment
Posted - 2010.05.31 21:17:00 - [12]
 

...and here i was few days ago suggesting my corp mates that we should write off all the nanos and other "worthless" salvage and just collect "tags" (as we call it), because they are most worth.
heh...maybe i was right, they are most valuable in the end :P

All in all, great chronicle and another great addition to this very interesting unveiling story

P.S. Too bad i cant participate in events coz i live in wh, but who knows maybe events will come to me some day Wink

Alain Colcer
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2010.05.31 22:00:00 - [13]
 

And thus, we got the origins of how Tech3 was licensed to capsuleers for the first possible and most useful application, advanced ships.

I Like it. Let's see how long it takes for people what does the Sleeper/Talocan structures hide in the storyline.

Alain Kinsella
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.05.31 22:07:00 - [14]
 

There is also reference to possibly inhabiting some of those stations (if you include some of the hints I've seen elsewhere).

The 'they will settle' part has certainly happened - and will happen further as PI properly kicks off. Now you just need sources of ice products to have w-space be self-sufficient (apart from the BPOs of course).

Very interesting.

Shorah (and /salute) Dropbear.

CCP Dropbear

Posted - 2010.05.31 23:01:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Nishachara
P.S. Too bad i cant participate in events coz i live in wh


You're sort of participating in a (very different) one then, right now, that relates to this very chronicle. This might help explain. YARRRR!!

Kenpachi Viktor
Gradient
Electus Matari
Posted - 2010.06.01 00:22:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Kenpachi Viktor on 01/06/2010 00:23:20
Quote:
Data Library: 11,799,985

Neural Network Analyzer: 1,162,057

Coordinates Database: 244,234

Drone AI Nexus: 70,726


I wonder, has anyone else noticed that the Sansha are also buying these items Shocked

Evelgrivion
Gunpoint Diplomacy
Posted - 2010.06.01 00:27:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Evelgrivion on 01/06/2010 03:00:32
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
Originally by: Nishachara
P.S. Too bad i cant participate in events coz i live in wh


You're sort of participating in a (very different) one then, right now, that relates to this very chronicle. This might help explain. YARRRR!!


So what I've gathered so far is that something is afoot in Vitrauze, and the Gallente are working diligently on it. Given the exploits of the Caldari, it's probably aimed at doing something mean to them. The Wormhole was a snag, but it has been Xanatos Speed Chessed into their plans. To keep the capsuleers from being fully aware of the technology in Programmed Cell Death space (I see what you did there Razz), the most obvious and basic of the technological possibilities were given to hastily created bits of engineering that we call strategic cruisers. All the while, the far more valuable technologies are being explored by the empires for a technological edge until the capsuleers or other entities work out the hyper-advanced technology contained in unknown space.

As for the denizens of Anoikis themselves, they are digitized souls who resorted to advanced, solar powered, data enclaves that contain the existential essence of billions who would have perished to an incurable plague that appears to be somewhat reminiscent of the Jove Disease, but with an effect on the body rather than an effect on the mind. Perhaps the asteroid over Taisy VIII known as the Kyonoke Pit is from Anoikis and contains none other than that which ended the Sleepers and Talocans.

Capsuleers are being played for chumps by the empires, and the empires are being played for chumps by... who knows?

Lots of questions unanswered here, but I think that's the gist of it? Razz

:edit: I've got a suspicion that the Sleepers expected to bounce back after their souls were moved to machines by transplanting themselves back into physical bodies. Obviously, this has not happened. With the Sisters epic arc featuring a Sleeper cruiser in K-space and interacting with rogue drones (not to mention the events leading up to the creation of wormholes in the first place), they seem to be trying something that involves the denizens of New Eden to resolve (or perhaps absolve?) their predicament.

Julianus Soter
Gallente
Moira.
Posted - 2010.06.01 00:52:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: Julianus Soter on 01/06/2010 01:06:52
As a person that has been working on this for about a year now, it's eternally frustrating that there is so little information in-game about any of this. Talocan/Sleeper interaction, existence of plague in Sleeper space, vast range of Sleeper technology, Sleeper upload society, Sleeper connection to normal space, wormhole technology, etc, those are all rather self-evident.

And now, I have a new ongoing investigations to manage, on behalf of CONCORD regarding the Sansha. I forwarded my findings to Haeldone Dorgiers, by the way, is he still alive? :p


As an update: my intel channels have started resorting to discussing various kinds of pie, and cake, to avoid discussions on slavery and other nasty inter-factional nonsense. help us dropbear, you're our only hope!


Nikilaiki Ruutarhara
Caldari
Project Daedalid
Posted - 2010.06.01 08:12:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Julianus Soter
Talocan/Sleeper interaction, existence of plague in Sleeper space, vast range of Sleeper technology, Sleeper upload society, Sleeper connection to normal space, wormhole technology, etc, those are all rather self-evident.

Look very carefully at the evidence. Very, very carefully.

Quote:
And now, I have a new ongoing investigations to manage, on behalf of CONCORD regarding the Sansha. I forwarded my findings to Haeldone Dorgiers, by the way, is he still alive? :p

Perhaps you are missing a certain piece of the puzzle. Specifically:

Quote:
A turning point came when an internal investigation brought to light their association with Sansha's Nation. It was common knowledge that Sansha Kuvakei combined Jovian capsule technology with illegally modified brain implants in order to start off his notorious army of sycophants, but Empire attempts to replicate his research have always been unsuccessful, and it had long been postulated that the Jovians may have been one of the shadowy forces who secretly supported Kuvakei, supplying him with clandestine technologies in order to see what he could make of it.

And this:

Quote:
If the situation is ever understood in its entirety, as you predict, then there will be consequences for these actions.

I do not share that view. What we do now benefits all parties. If our motives are ultimately viewed as benign, then any perceived wrongdoings can be explained in full detail as they are identified. Trust and clarification at the highest tiers will filter downward and provide the level of institutional compliance necessary to establish the agreement.


Oh, and Dropbear; do you at least read my insane ramblings on the Chatsubo forums? No one else seems to. Sad

Jowen Datloran
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2010.06.01 09:10:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Jowen Datloran on 01/06/2010 12:43:33
With the multiple times Dropbear has hinted/outright announced that the current Sansha development and the overall Sleeper plot are not related, I do not believe investigating into the Sansha will reveal what happened with the Sleepers and the great mystery surrounding them.

This chronicle and previous messages seems to want to encourage us to to start roaming around w-space, picking up bits of the puzzle before finally putting them all together. This will be a task no man should do alone, but would a joint effort of people independently but towards a greater aim.

Sadly, I think this concept of a "greater story" is lost on the general EVE player base. Very few pay attention to the background story and even less are actively pursuing the EVE lore ingame. A brilliant example is the COSMOS constellations. These have been out for years and contains lots of EVE lore and hints to the "greater story". Still, besides my own guides I have seen very few actively collect and present these pieces of lore. All guides focus primarily on simply getting as much gain with as little effort invested, that includes ignoring spending time reading mission descriptions, pop-ups and other sources of distraction towards personal gain. Same story goes for the epic arcs btw.

Further, though I personally like this detective game within the game, the concept goes straight against the most common way of storytelling in movies and computer games; where every bit of necessary background information gets presented in such a way that you have to do an actual effort to avoid being aware.

Legs Mackenzie
Posted - 2010.06.01 11:10:00 - [21]
 

I don't think the bad word filter is working on the chronicles Shocked

This is an outrage, I thought this game was meant to be like a PG or something?

Kain Hakonen
Caldari
Posted - 2010.06.01 13:58:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: Kain Hakonen on 01/06/2010 13:59:27
I was rather disappointed with the disjointed writing style... it makes the story incredibly difficult to follow. I can only imagine what it's like for people who don't speak english as a first language. While I have nothing against experimenting with linguistic structure and style to achieve certain ends, let's not go overboard.

Aynen
Posted - 2010.06.01 17:43:00 - [23]
 

Just finished reading it. A few comments...

I'm not very fond of reading a piece that is written 'in riddles' as I'd call it. When first getting into a new situation in the story, I'd like to get my barings first, but this piece kind of launches you right into a situation where you have no idea what is going on, nor is it really explained to you clearly. I realise this is a choise of style, and that it is personal taste that I'm not fond of it. It's just my opinion. If I may compare it to 'the Empyrian Age', the writing style there was very descriptive in a litural sense. Yet there was still mystery by the plenty in that book, so writing in riddles isn't the only way to achieve this. I'd like to know how the writer feels about the two writing styles.

Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
Posted - 2010.06.01 18:58:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Wikipedia
Anoikis is a form of programmed cell death which is induced by anchorage-dependent cells detaching from the surrounding extracellular matrix (ECM). Usually cells stay close to the tissue to which they belong since the communication between proximal cells as well as between cells and ECM provide essential signals for growth or survival. When cells are detached from the ECM, i.e. there is a loss of normal cell-matrix interactions, they may undergo anoikis. However, metastatic tumor cells may escape from anoikis and invade other organs.


*rubs chin*

Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2010.06.01 19:05:00 - [25]
 

The parts of the whole programmed to die (or enter stasis) upon separating. Interesting.

Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
Posted - 2010.06.01 19:07:00 - [26]
 

Edited by: Istvaan Shogaatsu on 01/06/2010 19:08:28
What's more interesting, is if the stuff that separated and went into stasis comes back, it's cancer YARRRR!!

edit: I think I'm starting to understand.

Nikilaiki Ruutarhara
Caldari
Project Daedalid
Posted - 2010.06.01 19:33:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Edited by: Istvaan Shogaatsu on 01/06/2010 19:08:28
What's more interesting, is if the stuff that separated and went into stasis comes back, it's cancer YARRRR!!

edit: I think I'm starting to understand.

Hehehe. A couple things to look into:
1. The first Epic Arc.
2. Rogue Drones.

That is all. Wink

Lt Forge
Pilots Of Honour
Aeternus.
Posted - 2010.06.01 21:30:00 - [28]
 

I'm now going to seed some tinfoilhats on the market ugh

Leo Carter
Posted - 2010.06.02 12:28:00 - [29]
 

i think personally what we are about to see is the expansion of T3 into more ship types, the premise being that the empires colluded with one another to suppress the growth of power of the capsuleers, and by doing so only released cruiser class ships instead of anything bigger or smaller which would have been even more advanced. so my tip would be watch this space for more T3 parts and ships (would be amzing to have T3 BSes and maybe in my dreams T3 caps Razz ) just a theory....

CCP Dropbear

Posted - 2010.06.03 01:13:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Originally by: Wikipedia
Anoikis is a form of programmed cell death which is induced by anchorage-dependent cells detaching from the surrounding extracellular matrix (ECM). Usually cells stay close to the tissue to which they belong since the communication between proximal cells as well as between cells and ECM provide essential signals for growth or survival. When cells are detached from the ECM, i.e. there is a loss of normal cell-matrix interactions, they may undergo anoikis. However, metastatic tumor cells may escape from anoikis and invade other organs.

Etymology
The word Anoikis was coined by Frisch and Francis in a paper published in the Journal of Cell Biology in 1994. Anoikis, in their words, means "(...the state of being without a home) to describe the cells' apoptotic response to the absence of cell-matrix interactions." The word apparently is a Neolatin construction consisting of three Greek morphemes agglutinated together: ἀν- "without", οἰκ- "house", and -ις (extracted from -σις "trait, attribute"; confer apo-pto-sis "state of being fallen off").


*rubs chin*


Now with added etymology!

Originally by: Jowen Datloran
With the multiple times Dropbear has hinted/outright announced that the current Sansha development and the overall Sleeper plot are not related, I do not believe investigating into the Sansha will reveal what happened with the Sleepers and the great mystery surrounding them.

This chronicle and previous messages seems to want to encourage us to to start roaming around w-space, picking up bits of the puzzle before finally putting them all together. This will be a task no man should do alone, but would a joint effort of people independently but towards a greater aim.

Sadly, I think this concept of a "greater story" is lost on the general EVE player base. Very few pay attention to the background story and even less are actively pursuing the EVE lore ingame. A brilliant example is the COSMOS constellations. These have been out for years and contains lots of EVE lore and hints to the "greater story". Still, besides my own guides I have seen very few actively collect and present these pieces of lore. All guides focus primarily on simply getting as much gain with as little effort invested, that includes ignoring spending time reading mission descriptions, pop-ups and other sources of distraction towards personal gain. Same story goes for the epic arcs btw.

Further, though I personally like this detective game within the game, the concept goes straight against the most common way of storytelling in movies and computer games; where every bit of necessary background information gets presented in such a way that you have to do an actual effort to avoid being aware.


Correct and awesome in every way, which is how you commonly roll Mr. Datloran. Razz Your epic arc guides are awesome, by the way. I really enjoyed revisiting the Wildfire story through that guide. I wish more people would document their stories! And/or that we had the time to do it ourselves. Smile

Originally by: Nikilaiki Ruutarhara
Oh, and Dropbear; do you at least read my insane ramblings on the Chatsubo forums? No one else seems to. Sad


Yup. I read every Sleeper-related thread again and again until my eyes bleed. Then I use text-to-speech.


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