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Simeon Tor
Picon Fleet
New Eden Research.
Posted - 2010.06.01 13:02:00 - [61]
 

Quote:
What Scott Woods said.


I thought you were quitting Eve?

Argosus
Waverunners
Posted - 2010.06.01 13:48:00 - [62]
 

Wow! 3 pages and still Scott Woods has provided 0 proof. Time to shut this ***** down me thinks. Grendell is a stand up guy, trusted by many. His reputation is worth much more than the puny value of isk you claim he stole.

4 choices scott:
1, grow some [email protected] and admit ur talking out ur @ss.
2, go play WoW, you will fit in nicely.
3, dig deep in ur pockets and find some proof to ur ridiculous accusations.
4, stop posting and hope to god that this goes away as its quite clear who the people are siding with

xxShadexx
Dashavatara
Posted - 2010.06.01 13:54:00 - [63]
 

Scott, just post the bloody thread from your forums. It explains why we left and how nothing was stolen bar T1 ships.

Scott is living in his own little world. He is not even a director in Retri, mainly because he was never trusted due to him being this hyper-active and OTT!

Solo Brutor
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2010.06.01 14:22:00 - [64]
 

Still no proof...

SFX Bladerunner
Minmatar
Aperture Science inc.
Posted - 2010.06.01 16:13:00 - [65]
 

Originally by: Scott Woods
Originally by: Larana Randie
lol Scot...proof or it didn't happen m8. I think we might have a new investigation target for the IEE here :P


You ask me for proof, yet you don't ask for proof from them for their side?

If I recall correctly, best standards and practice require the standards be universally applied.


You do know you are just shooting yourself in the foot here right?

Ok, let's apply some 'standardised' judgement:

- YOU post a thread on C&P accusing one of EVE's most trusted and respected players of being a petty thief.
- I do not know you, nor do a lot of people here.
- We all (in some way or other) know or have heard of Grendell.

If we go simply by basic knowledge, it doesn't look good for you.
We desire proof to go with your accusations because even though we might be scumbags of C&P/EVE, we believe people are innocent untill proven otherwise.
Also, we believe you are a noob untill proven otherwise.
This applies to both accusation threads and 'gloat' threads, we judge both ends of the pointy stick equal.
As it stands right now, you have provided us with a lot of accusations, excuses and generally bad posts, but no actual content or proof.

Do you find it REALLY weird we believe a well respected and upstanding EVE Online citizen over some random guy trying to downtalk previously mention citizen without anything to back it up? Even with the notion of "innocent untill proven otherwise" left aside it STILL doesn't look good for you.
Add it though and you have no chance of convincing anyone.

Have a nice life, and please stop posting (unless its proof, please post proof!Razz)

Anton Marik
Posted - 2010.06.01 20:01:00 - [66]
 

I think you guys are being too harsh on Scott Woods.

As a stand up guy myself, I should join Scott's corp and be given director roles.

I will then be in a position to confirm or deny his story. Twisted Evil

Don ZOLA
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.06.01 22:00:00 - [67]
 

Op must be right. After all thats how pros scam. Why should he scam and get hundreds of billions when he can make a scam for 10bils or so? Much better to ruin your awesome reputation on some small scam then to make something epic...

on a more serious note, im sure grendell wouldnt ruin his reputation for even more isk, cuz his reputation is earning him isk. And also, Odet is my alt.

Zeta Zhul
Caldari
Preemptive Paranoia
Posted - 2010.06.01 22:06:00 - [68]
 

Originally by: Lord Zap
Edited by: Lord Zap on 01/06/2010 03:25:19
These testimonials warm my ****les!

Profanity filter is stupid. '****les' is a not a profanity.

Yes, but regardless, please do not evade the profanity filter. Zymurgist


Clbuttic!

Scott Woods
Caldari
Real Life Super Heros Inc.
Caped Vigilantes
Posted - 2010.06.02 03:39:00 - [69]
 

What you guys seem don't understand is what you are asking for is against the forum rules to post.

* Forum rules (http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1107608) states I cant post the chat logs I have been requested to give.
* Forum rules (http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/W/index.php #3) state I can not post images (like the screen shots you have requested.)

* Additionally many of you are breaking a large number of all the rest of the forum rules with your baseless insults and off topic chatter.

Complain to CCP if you don't like it. None of you are going to trick me into breaking the forum rules. I said my piece and I'm done.

Epegi Givo
Amarr
Department of Redundancy Dpt.
Posted - 2010.06.02 04:00:00 - [70]
 

Originally by: Scott Woods
What you guys seem don't understand is what you are asking for is against the forum rules to post.

* Forum rules (http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1107608) states I cant post the chat logs I have been requested to give.
* Forum rules (http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/W/index.php #3) state I can not post images (like the screen shots you have requested.)

* Additionally many of you are breaking a large number of all the rest of the forum rules with your baseless insults and off topic chatter.

Complain to CCP if you don't like it. None of you are going to trick me into breaking the forum rules. I said my piece and I'm done.


The rules say nothing about posting a link containing a screenshot or chat long. People have linked to chatlogs with names uncensored and linked to images for things MUCH less important than this.

You have no excuse, provide evidence or your accusations carry no weight in this court.

Grey Wind
Posted - 2010.06.02 05:04:00 - [71]
 

If a link to proof can't be clicked, then you're full if ****

so kindly stop wasting time with baseless accusations and claims of "omg I am such a law abiding honorable citizen I can't possibly prove this mans guilt!"

Please do not evade the profanity filter. Zymurgist

Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
Posted - 2010.06.02 05:11:00 - [72]
 

Scott not that you've answered my previous post, but like I said, I'm willing to host or pay for hosting any information you like.

That is not against any rules. I'll cover whatever costs there are and even arrange them with somebody like Chribba if you like.

What's your excuse now?

GrendellWink

Epegi Givo
Amarr
Department of Redundancy Dpt.
Posted - 2010.06.02 05:17:00 - [73]
 

Originally by: Grendell
Scott not that you've answered my previous post, but like I said, I'm willing to host or pay for hosting any information you like.

That is not against any rules. I'll cover whatever costs there are and even arrange them with somebody like Chribba if you like.

What's your excuse now?

GrendellWink


Grendell, why don't YOU post the chat-logs yourself?

Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
Posted - 2010.06.02 05:36:00 - [74]
 

Edited by: Grendell on 02/06/2010 05:40:56
Originally by: Epegi Givo
Originally by: Grendell
Scott not that you've answered my previous post, but like I said, I'm willing to host or pay for hosting any information you like.

That is not against any rules. I'll cover whatever costs there are and even arrange them with somebody like Chribba if you like.

What's your excuse now?

GrendellWink


Grendell, why don't YOU post the chat-logs yourself?


The discussion were all done on Scott's forum, when he realized I was clearly wining the debate, he simply removed my rights to access the forum. So I sadly don't have access to the forum anymore, which is sad, because I also used it as my notepad for brainstorming.Laughing

So I would if I couldugh, But I suspect it's the last thing Scott wants.


EDIT: I can't spell.

Epegi Givo
Amarr
Department of Redundancy Dpt.
Posted - 2010.06.02 05:44:00 - [75]
 

Originally by: Grendell
Edited by: Grendell on 02/06/2010 05:40:56
Originally by: Epegi Givo
Originally by: Grendell
Scott not that you've answered my previous post, but like I said, I'm willing to host or pay for hosting any information you like.

That is not against any rules. I'll cover whatever costs there are and even arrange them with somebody like Chribba if you like.

What's your excuse now?

GrendellWink


Grendell, why don't YOU post the chat-logs yourself?


The discussion were all done on Scott's forum, when he realized I was clearly wining the debate, he simply removed my rights to access the forum. So I sadly don't have access to the forum anymore, which is sad, because I also used it as my notepad for brainstorming.Laughing

So I would if I couldugh, But I suspect it's the last thing Scott wants.


EDIT: I can't spell.


I'm sure there are chat logs and screenshotable EVE-mails still in your possession that you could use to prove your innocence.

It is very unlikely Scott will post evidence incriminating himself, so we will need to rely on you to provide the evidence.

Tiberizzle
Posted - 2010.06.02 05:49:00 - [76]
 

Grendell stole my bike

Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
Posted - 2010.06.02 06:54:00 - [77]
 

Originally by: Epegi Givo

I'm sure there are chat logs and screenshotable EVE-mails still in your possession that you could use to prove your innocence.



When did I become guilty?

Originally by: Epegi Givo

It is very unlikely Scott will post evidence incriminating himself, so we will need to rely on you to provide the evidence.


All the evidence and proof, is in Retribution corp's API which I don't have access to, and Scott's forum which I don't have access to. Only reason Scott hasn't shown anything, is because it shows he was wrong.

Scott has a tendency of changing his story and jumping from one conspiracy to another when he is proven wrong. Each time getting more and more ridiculous, with never anything to backup what he says.

Besides, Scott is here calling me out, saying he has all sorts of magical evidence. So I came, called his bluff, and now he's ignoring my posts.WinkProbably only because he can't remove my rights on these forums when he gets cornered by logic.

Oh I had post earlier in the thread somewhere with 2 screenshots of money I sent Scott, that he claims to have never receivedWink But he has yet to reply to that either. Not shocking.Wink

Poo Ka'hontas
Amarr
Posted - 2010.06.02 06:57:00 - [78]
 

Originally by: Scott Woods
What you guys seem don't understand is what you are asking for is against the forum rules to post.

* Forum rules (http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1107608) states I cant post the chat logs I have been requested to give.
* Forum rules (http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/W/index.php #3) state I can not post images (like the screen shots you have requested.)

* Additionally many of you are breaking a large number of all the rest of the forum rules with your baseless insults and off topic chatter.

Complain to CCP if you don't like it. None of you are going to trick me into breaking the forum rules. I said my piece and I'm done.


I thought you had come to your sences Scott and left this thread in shame.. But ooooh no Laughing Here you go again.

I am gonna page Zedric and send him your way, because after what i have seen so far..You will make Joe Phoenix look like Alexander the Great Laughing

AbraKadaver
Minmatar
ABRACO
Posted - 2010.06.02 09:58:00 - [79]
 

It's kind of strange how everyone involved that doesn't want to see Grendell's name being completely slandered has also conveniently lost all access to any of the 'evidence' that Scott seems to cite. Incidentally if this 'evidence' was posted then Scotts already untenable position would simply become at least ten times the fail it already is.

Simply put, Odet / Grendell is not a corp thief; he simply removed a bond that was created in good faith by members and was not being used for the purpose it was intended for - in itself a form of theft one might argue. This bond was then paid back out to members who had contributed to it.

As for supposed 'billions' of POS modules - I think that you'll find that in comparison to the amount of money and time Odet and the rest of the industry bods put in to Retribution that this is fair recompense.

Attempting to ruin Odet / Grendells reputation by going off on some paddy is just laughable to be honest, and it does seem that everyone else agrees on this point.

There is no point in asking for proof from Scott as there simply is no proof that Grendell is a thief of any nature, because it's simply untrue and a shameful allegation from someone who needs to grow the feck up.

This topic ought to be locked and deleted as it serves no purpose other than making Scott look even more stupid.

ugh

yfz3r0
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2010.06.02 11:11:00 - [80]
 

Originally by: Epegi Givo
Originally by: Grendell
Edited by: Grendell on 02/06/2010 05:40:56
Originally by: Epegi Givo
Originally by: Grendell
Scott not that you've answered my previous post, but like I said, I'm willing to host or pay for hosting any information you like.

That is not against any rules. I'll cover whatever costs there are and even arrange them with somebody like Chribba if you like.

What's your excuse now?

GrendellWink


Grendell, why don't YOU post the chat-logs yourself?


The discussion were all done on Scott's forum, when he realized I was clearly wining the debate, he simply removed my rights to access the forum. So I sadly don't have access to the forum anymore, which is sad, because I also used it as my notepad for brainstorming.Laughing

So I would if I couldugh, But I suspect it's the last thing Scott wants.


EDIT: I can't spell.


I'm sure there are chat logs and screenshotable EVE-mails still in your possession that you could use to prove your innocence.

It is very unlikely Scott will post evidence incriminating himself, so we will need to rely on you to provide the evidence.


As far as myself and most of the Eve community is concerned, Grendell has nothing to prove. Scott should do his homework on the matter rather than run around making baseless accusations about people.

Rachel McTingle
Posted - 2010.06.02 11:53:00 - [81]
 

ATTENTION!!! I have INDISPUTABLE PROOF that Scott Woods is actually CAPTAIN FOVIOUS! However, due to forum rules I cannot post it here. Please everyone, lets stop his reign of terror, together we can do it!!!

Borgh Brainbasher
Saint Industrial Services
STEEL BROTHERHOOD
Posted - 2010.06.02 12:00:00 - [82]
 

Scott, think the thing you miscalcualted here is the value of reputation in eve

in the real world a two-day employee can utterly ruin her bosses life by claiming sexual harrasment and the boss can't play the "but I'm a honorable guy" card because honor isn't worth jack bleep anymore.

However, in eve honor and trust are such rare comodities that they are very valuable and as such not as easily tainted.
Yes, you can still ruin grendell but, to continue on the employee analogy, you would have to provide video of him doing nasty things to you in the copier room. If you don't have those we fall back on the reputation vs. reputation standard from victorian england and sorry mate but that is something you will lose.

Regards, Borgh

trenny jr
The Python Cartel.
The Defenders of Pen Island
Posted - 2010.06.02 13:28:00 - [83]
 

Originally by: Borgh Brainbasher
Scott, think the thing you miscalcualted here is the value of reputation in eve

in the real world a two-day employee can utterly ruin her bosses life by claiming sexual harrasment and the boss can't play the "but I'm a honorable guy" card because honor isn't worth jack bleep anymore.

However, in eve honor and trust are such rare comodities that they are very valuable and as such not as easily tainted.
Yes, you can still ruin grendell but, to continue on the employee analogy, you would have to provide video of him doing nasty things to you in the copier room. If you don't have those we fall back on the reputation vs. reputation standard from victorian england and sorry mate but that is something you will lose.

Regards, Borgh


confirming grendell did nasty things to me in the copier room Embarassed

Borgh Brainbasher
Saint Industrial Services
STEEL BROTHERHOOD
Posted - 2010.06.02 13:49:00 - [84]
 

Originally by: trenny jr
Originally by: Borgh Brainbasher
Scott, think the thing you miscalcualted here is the value of reputation in eve

in the real world a two-day employee can utterly ruin her bosses life by claiming sexual harrasment and the boss can't play the "but I'm a honorable guy" card because honor isn't worth jack bleep anymore.

However, in eve honor and trust are such rare comodities that they are very valuable and as such not as easily tainted.
Yes, you can still ruin grendell but, to continue on the employee analogy, you would have to provide video of him doing nasty things to you in the copier room. If you don't have those we fall back on the reputation vs. reputation standard from victorian england and sorry mate but that is something you will lose.

Regards, Borgh


confirming grendell did nasty things to me in the copier room Embarassed


as I said, vid or gtfo Razz

zaxin diadrin
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2010.06.02 13:54:00 - [85]
 

Originally by: trenny jr


confirming grendell did nasty things to me in the copier room Embarassed


I wish grendell would do nasty things to me in the copier room Embarassed

captain foivos
Posted - 2010.06.02 14:30:00 - [86]
 

Originally by: Rachel McTingle
ATTENTION!!! I have INDISPUTABLE PROOF that Scott Woods is actually CAPTAIN FOVIOUS! However, due to forum rules I cannot post it here. Please everyone, lets stop his reign of terror, together we can do it!!!


OH SHI--

TipsyMcStagger
Caldari
Spruillo WarDec Corp
Posted - 2010.06.02 18:20:00 - [87]
 

Edited by: TipsyMcStagger on 02/06/2010 18:24:36

It's Captain Fovios. For the 50th time.

Oh yeah and this one time grendell he didn't steal my bike but cribba dared me to ride without my helmet on and then grendell stole my helmet and then they laughed at me and where yelling 'sucker!'. Then I told them 'meet me at the park fools' so I got my homeboys and we where walking to the park to fight them and they pulled up in like a little hatch back toyota and 15 mexicans got out and my buddy ran away.

Atomik Harmonik
Posted - 2010.06.02 19:14:00 - [88]
 

Scott Woods stole my Ibis Navy Issue Crying or Very sad

James Tritanius
Posted - 2010.06.02 19:52:00 - [89]
 

cool story bro

Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
EVE Trade Consortium
Posted - 2010.06.02 20:22:00 - [90]
 

Originally by: AbraKadaver

This topic ought to be locked and deleted as it serves no purpose other than making Scott look even more stupid.



Wasn't that the purpose the OP had in mind right from the beginning? Oh, wait ... Wink


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