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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
Posted - 2010.05.31 16:03:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Scott Woods
If you want to do a lotto, go with chribba or somebody trustworthy, my advice is to stay away from Grendell for the indefinite future.

It should be noted that before leaving, I and others on my corp heard him bragging on coms about how he was going to cash in on grendell's rep someday soon.. I guess we should have taken the hint. Protect yourelf and dont' be his next victim.

Dropping hints before a heist makes the act so much sweeter to execute. This Grendell fellow sounds like a class act. Salutations.

Verone
Gallente
Veto Corp
Posted - 2010.05.31 17:09:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Originally by: Scott Woods
If you want to do a lotto, go with chribba or somebody trustworthy, my advice is to stay away from Grendell for the indefinite future.

It should be noted that before leaving, I and others on my corp heard him bragging on coms about how he was going to cash in on grendell's rep someday soon.. I guess we should have taken the hint. Protect yourelf and dont' be his next victim.

Dropping hints before a heist makes the act so much sweeter to execute. This Grendell fellow sounds like a class act. Salutations.


You never know when someone really surprising and unexpected, with a spotless reputation will do something so untoward.

It adds so much to the amusement factor when you read about it, I have to admit.

Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
Posted - 2010.05.31 17:12:00 - [33]
 

Post 13 updated with some background info.Wink

yfz3r0
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2010.05.31 17:14:00 - [34]
 

Considering that I've known Odet/Grendell for going on 4 or so years now I think I can safely say that he is the most trustworthy person that I know (ingame at least). Haters gonna hate.

Shamad Conde
Gallente
Destructive Influence
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.05.31 17:16:00 - [35]
 

Grendell scammed me once :-(
I got a very badly fit dread from him which I sold making 500mil profit.

Razz

Lord Zap
Caldari
Fairlight Corp
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2010.05.31 17:36:00 - [36]
 

I will wade in with my size 11s and say that Grendell is a stand up guy. I owe him 4 bill and he doesn't moan about it more than 3 times a week. Would Mr. Raven Blade really cast aspersions on an innocent man? That would hardly be in the spirit of all things super hero now would it?

If 10 billion went missing you should seek the real culrpit rather than blaming Odet.

Zap

captain foivos
Posted - 2010.05.31 17:38:00 - [37]
 

Pics or it didn't happen.


Also confirming that Scott Woods framed me.

Scott Woods
Caldari
Real Life Super Heros Inc.
Caped Vigilantes
Posted - 2010.05.31 17:41:00 - [38]
 

Grenell knows I don't have roles and thus, could never get screenshots. In fact, he actualy did everything he could to make sure NOBODY could get screen shots, because he personally removed a number of peoples roles.

Grendell knows that while I do have access to the API (As the corp software guy) I'm too honorable to divulge private information like corp assets.

As for internal corp communications, he is just angry that I locked him and his friends out of the corp forum after he went off about me, thinking I did not have admin on it and would not find out about the threats he made against corp assets.

He knows that if I start posting forum logs or chat logs this thread will get shutdown for rules violations so he is stalling by asking for things he knows I am not allowed to give out here.

Odet/Grendell has confirmed above most of my story.

Others in this thread - Like Cato - had things stolen from them. I myself have had to hear from many people in my corp over the last few days that state that they were never paid back for the bonds Odet/Grendell speaks of, although the wallet clearly says that he took billions out of it and even he as stated above he took the money. Additionally, I have not been fully paid back myself and the corp is missing billions in pos modules that only Odet and his syndicate had access to.

PS: He likes to kill large corp assets on his pvp main and internally sabotage things, thankfully we found out his target and was able to protect it. And after he left with all our stuff, he sent mercs to camp our cyno chain. Does that sound like an honorable person to you?



yfz3r0
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2010.05.31 17:43:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Scott Woods
Grenell knows I don't have roles and thus, could never get screenshots. In fact, he actualy did everything he could to make sure NOBODY could get screen shots, because he personally removed a number of peoples roles.

Grendell knows that while I do have access to the API (As the corp software guy) I'm too honorable to divulge private information like corp assets.

As for internal corp communications, he is just angry that I locked him and his friends out of the corp forum after he went off about me, thinking I did not have admin on it and would not find out about the threats he made against corp assets.

He knows that if I start posting forum logs or chat logs this thread will get shutdown for rules violations so he is stalling by asking for things he knows I am not allowed to give out here.

Odet/Grendell has confirmed above most of my story.

Others in this thread - Like Cato - had things stolen from them. I myself have had to hear from many people in my corp over the last few days that state that they were never paid back for the bonds Odet/Grendell speaks of, although the wallet clearly says that he took billions out of it and even he as stated above he took the money. Additionally, I have not been fully paid back myself and the corp is missing billions in pos modules that only Odet and his syndicate had access to.

PS: He likes to kill large corp assets on his pvp main and internally sabotage things, thankfully we found out his target and was able to protect it. And after he left with all our stuff, he sent mercs to camp our cyno chain. Does that sound like an honorable person to you?





Stop posting.

Zeta Zhul
Caldari
Preemptive Paranoia
Posted - 2010.05.31 17:47:00 - [40]
 

Simple answer:

Open a free account with Blogger.com or some other blogging site. Post your evidence there and link to the page here.

Or post your evidence on another forum and post the link here.

Or, don't know about this one, petition the GMs for the return of missing stuff. At the worst they'll give you official confirmation that Odet/Grendell took it.

Or some such thing. But it's pretty clear you're going to have to go the extra mile to prove your case. In case you're wondering one reason why is in C&P people here are more likely to approve the theft and laugh about it.

Greg DaimYo
Caldari
Biotronics Inc.
Posted - 2010.05.31 17:51:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Scott Woods
Grenell knows I don't have roles and thus, could never get screenshots. In fact, he actualy did everything he could to make sure NOBODY could get screen shots, because he personally removed a number of peoples roles.

Grendell knows that while I do have access to the API (As the corp software guy) I'm too honorable to divulge private information like corp assets.



This is gold, as in comedy-gold. I know neither of the people involved in this, but alone by the little information that I could scramble in this thread I am pretty sure, that a.) you can't prove ape-**** and b.) the player accused doesn't seem to care about 10 bil ISK and makes a pretty sober and coherent appearance, so I'll definitely call bull****.

But the 'too honorable to divulge provate information'-part made me giggle in real life. Very Happy

Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
Posted - 2010.05.31 18:20:00 - [42]
 

Edited by: Grendell on 31/05/2010 18:21:26
Originally by: Scott Woods

Grendell knows that while I do have access to the API (As the corp software guy) I'm too honorable to divulge private information like corp assets.



Scott I know an honorable person like yourself would never go on a temper tantrum and troll somebody, his friends, and all his clients. Hmm no wait you didWink

Originally by: Scott Woods
Grenell knows I don't have roles and thus, could never get screenshots. In fact, he actualy did everything he could to make sure NOBODY could get screen shots, because he personally removed a number of peoples roles.



Scott since you are the director of Retribution corp and are the host and code guy for the corp forums, you have full access to all the information. If you need help getting it all show publicly I'd be happy to help.

Originally by: Scott Woods

As for internal corp communications, he is just angry that I locked him and his friends out of the corp forum after he went off about me, thinking I did not have admin on it and would not find out about the threats he made against corp assets.



Scott I knew you had admin and that you own the forums, which is why it came as no surprise you locked me out when I proved you wrong. As far as the threads against corp assets you'll have to re-fresh my memory as last I checked I saved you from being ganked by our own members on several occasions, because you were such a likable guy.

Originally by: Scott Woods


He knows that if I start posting forum logs or chat logs this thread will get shutdown for rules violations so he is stalling by asking for things he knows I am not allowed to give out here.



I'll be happy to host all the information on my site or a 3rd parties sites, thus not breaking any forum rules.

Originally by: Scott Woods

Others in this thread - Like Cato - had things stolen from them.



Who's Cato? As he's not a name I've ever seen in corp.

Originally by: Scott Woods


I myself have had to hear from many people in my corp over the last few days that state that they were never paid back for the bonds Odet/Grendell speaks of



Name one personWink

Originally by: Scott Woods

Additionally, I have not been fully paid back myself



Open your wallet, select the journal side, then for the drop down select "corporation account withdrawal"/"Player donation" You will see the entry there 2010.05.12 00:14. The reason used was "Bond 1 BUYBACK".
Here's a screen shot that might help you look for it. Bond1 and for Bond2.

Originally by: Scott Woods
the corp is missing billions in pos modules that only Odet and his syndicate had access to.



You do realize those POS's and modules were owned by the CEO Matrixx, I guess he forgot to mention it to you but he took them down and brought them to empire about a week after I and my "Syndicate" left the corp. By that point the only people who had access to it would have been the CEo, the 2 other directors, and youWink


EDIT: Just a reminder Scott, when I prove how ridiculous you are being, you don't have admin on these forums, so you might be hard pressed removing my roles here when you realize you are losing.Wink

♥Grendell♥

Eska Royson
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
Posted - 2010.05.31 18:50:00 - [43]
 

I think grendell has given you more then enough options to post those corp logs. Until you do, grendell is as trustworthy 3rd party as any of the others. Go mine some veld or something scott

Poo Ka'hontas
Amarr
Posted - 2010.05.31 19:26:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: Scott Woods


LIES!




I think NOW would be a good time to stop post anything, but said "proof".. You are falling face down into a coming biomass as we speak Wink

Tortugan
Internal Anarchy
WE FORM VOLTRON
Posted - 2010.05.31 19:59:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Scott Woods

Grendell knows that while I do have access to the API (As the corp software guy) I'm too honorable to divulge private information like corp assets.



I bolded the part that made me lol.


BobGhengisKhan
Dashavatara
Posted - 2010.05.31 20:09:00 - [46]
 

Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 01/06/2010 03:11:50
Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 31/05/2010 20:10:04
Quote:
I bolded the part that made me lol.

Are you questioning the integrity of a real life superhero?

xxShadexx
Dashavatara
Posted - 2010.05.31 21:00:00 - [47]
 

Im going to make this short and sweet.

Im currently the CEO of Odet's new corp and I was the acting ceo/director of Retribution Corp. while Odet/Grendell was a director.

Unlike Scott, I have known the CEO of Retribution (Matrixx) for over 4 years and is a good friend of mine. You can check my corp history for that. Scott however hasn't and has only been a member for what, 6-8 months?

After Grendell setting up a bonds program and him ending up doing 100% of the work with no support of the CEO, we decided it was time to move into a fresh new corp and leave our past behind. We spoke to the Retri CEO about what we were going to do and why we were moving. He was very inactive and only his close friends (being me) knew what was happening.

Grendell paid everything back to the corp in ISK, all the bonds were paid back and nothing on mine or Grendell's part was stolen. However, a few members who moved with us to the new corp stole some T1 ships from a POS which Grendell paid back to them in ISK, out of his own pocket.

Scott was very bitter that we moved corps and he wasn't invited. I personally found him very annoying, going over-the-top and always getting in the way. Grendell kept telling me, don't kick him, he has a good heart, just a strange way of showing it. However now, this is not the story.

I would like to say, ALL this has been discussed on the Retri. forums which Scott Woods has access to, but has blocked mine and Grendell's.

Scott is trying to disgrace Grendell's name. I will not allow this. Grendell is one of the most trusted people I have ever met and has done SO much work to help his fellow members and friends.

Canine Fiend
Minmatar
Hidden Refuge
WE FORM VOLTRON
Posted - 2010.05.31 21:56:00 - [48]
 

I've been playing for over 5 years, am a banker for EOH and have a fairly lucrative pirate ransom business going, and I'd stake my reputation on Grendell. I've had dealings with him in the past and he's never been known to do something like this. What the future might hold is anyone's guess, but in this particular instance, I'd base my reputation on Grendell over some random, apparently fail, FC.

Lord Zap
Caldari
Fairlight Corp
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2010.06.01 03:24:00 - [49]
 

Edited by: Lord Zap on 01/06/2010 03:25:19
These testimonials warm my ****les!

Profanity filter is stupid. '****les' is a not a profanity.

Yes, but regardless, please do not evade the profanity filter. Zymurgist

Scott Woods
Caldari
Real Life Super Heros Inc.
Caped Vigilantes
Posted - 2010.06.01 05:18:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: xxShadexx


Im currently the CEO of Odet's new corp and I was the acting ceo/director of Retribution Corp. while Odet/Grendell was a director.



False. You were never a ceo and most of us were turned off by your arrogance.

Originally by: xxShadexx

Unlike Scott, I have known the CEO of Retribution (Matrixx) for over 4 years and is a good friend of mine. You can check my corp history for that. Scott however hasn't and has only been a member for what, 6-8 months?


.. and I was hand recruited and treated much better than that. Makes you angry and a little bit jealous doesn't it?

Originally by: xxShadexx

Grendell paid everything back to the corp in ISK, all the bonds were paid back and nothing on mine or Grendell's part was stolen. However, a few members who moved with us to the new corp stole some T1 ships from a POS which Grendell paid back to them in ISK, out of his own pocket.



You are forgetting about the minerals and pos modules that were stolen, because Odet/Grendell wanted his own pos network for industry stuff.

Originally by: xxShadexx

Scott was very bitter that we moved corps and he wasn't invited. I personally found him very annoying, going over-the-top and always getting in the way. Grendell kept telling me, don't kick him, he has a good heart, just a strange way of showing it. However now, this is not the story.



Bull. Anything I do here I do to protect others from your scams, and yo never had the power to kick me because too many people voted against you. That is what ****es you off the most, I think.


Originally by: xxShadexx

I would like to say, ALL this has been discussed on the Retri. forums which Scott Woods has access to, but has blocked mine and Grendell's.



Nope, and the fact remains that having you here, complaining about not having access to the forums of a corp you are not in, only shows how childish and arrogant you are acting.

Originally by: xxShadexx

Scott is trying to disgrace Grendell's name. I will not allow this. Grendell is one of the most trusted people I have ever met and has done SO much work to help his fellow members and friends.



Grendell is Odet. Odet is Grendell.

Both are known in separate worlds, and now these two worlds have been forced to collide. That is all I really wanted; Now either Grendell can go back to his old days of stealing noobs stuff, or Odet can start acting like a stand up citizen and save Grendells rep from being stained by his actions on Odet.

Larana Randie
Capital Systems INC
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2010.06.01 05:53:00 - [51]
 

lol Scot...proof or it didn't happen m8. I think we might have a new investigation target for the IEE here :P

Scott Woods
Caldari
Real Life Super Heros Inc.
Caped Vigilantes
Posted - 2010.06.01 06:03:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Larana Randie
lol Scot...proof or it didn't happen m8. I think we might have a new investigation target for the IEE here :P


You ask me for proof, yet you don't ask for proof from them for their side?

If I recall correctly, best standards and practice require the standards be universally applied.

Tortugan
Internal Anarchy
WE FORM VOLTRON
Posted - 2010.06.01 06:11:00 - [53]
 

Edited by: Tortugan on 01/06/2010 06:13:44
What I find most ridiculous about this thread isn't that Grendell is being accused of scamming- anyone is capable of turning bad in Eve, since there are no real-life repercussions. What I find hilarious is that some no-name only known for being a sh*t FC created a thread on the forums with absolutely zero evidence pitting his word against one of the most trusted people in Eve.

Scott- this thread is pointless until you give some actual evidence. Let me give you an example:

Quote:
Just wanted to let you all know, the terrible FC guy "Scott Woods" recently stole billions from my corp, leveraging the trust people HAD in him in the process.

He had his main "Scott Woods" joined my corp, and signed on to Scott Woods for the leadership and myself to prove that it was really him "so we could trust him". He then used the trust we gave him due to this connection to steal around 10 billion after offering to help with industry for the corp, over 6 of that from the corp wallet, and several billion of that in minerals, mods, and pos equipment from the corp office bay.

If you see a lotto or other scan that uses him for a third party service, be worried. He is currently using both his alts and his friends alts to try to hide this all, but the fact is I feel that it should be known so that people can protect themselves. Also, several corp members have stated that his friends that left with him also took advantage of the recent logistics/move and stole peoples private stuff.

If you want to do a lotto, go with TORTUGAN or somebody trustworthy, my advice is to stay away from Scott Woods for the indefinite future.

It should be noted that before leaving, I and others on my corp heard him bragging on coms about how he was going to cash in on Scott Woods's rep someday soon.. I guess we should have taken the hint. Protect yourelf and dont' be his next victim.


Moral of the story: Don't trust Scott Woods. He's bad news.

Hinkledolph
Minmatar
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.06.01 06:14:00 - [54]
 

Originally by: Scott Woods
Originally by: Larana Randie
lol Scot...proof or it didn't happen m8. I think we might have a new investigation target for the IEE here :P


You ask me for proof, yet you don't ask for proof from them for their side?

If I recall correctly, best standards and practice require the standards be universally applied.


You brought this crap to C&P so you need to provide proof. If Grendell would have started it he would have faced the same thing. Right now you want ppl to believe your word vs a word of respected member of game community. Who do you think ppl will side with if no proof is provided?

Brusanan
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
Posted - 2010.06.01 06:21:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: Scott Woods
Originally by: Larana Randie
lol Scot...proof or it didn't happen m8. I think we might have a new investigation target for the IEE here :P


You ask me for proof, yet you don't ask for proof from them for their side?

If I recall correctly, best standards and practice require the standards be universally applied.

A positive claim requires positive evidence. The burden of proof is on you.

Innocent until proven guilty.

Aesynil
Caldari
The Unit...
Posted - 2010.06.01 07:12:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: Tortugan
Edited by: Tortugan on 01/06/2010 06:13:44
What I find most ridiculous about this thread isn't that Grendell is being accused of scamming- anyone is capable of turning bad in Eve, since there are no real-life repercussions. What I find hilarious is that some no-name only known for being a sh*t FC created a thread on the forums with absolutely zero evidence pitting his word against one of the most trusted people in Eve.

Scott- this thread is pointless until you give some actual evidence. Let me give you an example:

Quote:
Just wanted to let you all know, the terrible FC guy "Scott Woods" recently stole billions from my corp, leveraging the trust people HAD in him in the process.

He had his main "Scott Woods" joined my corp, and signed on to Scott Woods for the leadership and myself to prove that it was really him "so we could trust him". He then used the trust we gave him due to this connection to steal around 10 billion after offering to help with industry for the corp, over 6 of that from the corp wallet, and several billion of that in minerals, mods, and pos equipment from the corp office bay.

If you see a lotto or other scan that uses him for a third party service, be worried. He is currently using both his alts and his friends alts to try to hide this all, but the fact is I feel that it should be known so that people can protect themselves. Also, several corp members have stated that his friends that left with him also took advantage of the recent logistics/move and stole peoples private stuff.

If you want to do a lotto, go with TORTUGAN or somebody trustworthy, my advice is to stay away from Scott Woods for the indefinite future.

It should be noted that before leaving, I and others on my corp heard him bragging on coms about how he was going to cash in on Scott Woods's rep someday soon.. I guess we should have taken the hint. Protect yourelf and dont' be his next victim.


Moral of the story: Don't trust Scott Woods. He's bad news.


Thanks for the warning, Tortugan! I'll watch out for this "Scott Woods' fellow.

Jaggati Khan
Posted - 2010.06.01 09:00:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: Lana Torrin
1) The day when Chribba does it, we are all ****ed.



LOL

that would be a sight to see, though he certainly doesnt need the isk i would imagine

Lightningshade
Caldari
Spiritus Draconis
Posted - 2010.06.01 10:07:00 - [58]
 

Edited by: Lightningshade on 01/06/2010 10:07:03
So, providing you were planning on looking like a whiny little bastard, and p much a complete coc smoker - things have turned out exactly how you wanted, eh Scott?

Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
EVE Trade Consortium
Posted - 2010.06.01 10:07:00 - [59]
 

Edited by: Hel O''Ween on 01/06/2010 10:08:14
Originally by: Scott Woods
Originally by: Larana Randie
lol Scot...proof or it didn't happen m8. I think we might have a new investigation target for the IEE here :P


You ask me for proof, yet you don't ask for proof from them for their side?



You came here, an unknown pod pilot looking for his five minutes of "internet fame" by blaming a long time and reputable member of the community, as anyone who has done business with Grendell can attest to. You present a "cool" story but fail to present any verifyable facts. First you hide behind "can't post them on this forum" (hint: the internet is full of free hosting services). Than, adviced on how to use the Full API key, you hide behind "privacy issues". Which I highly respect. But there's a solution to that: hire an auditor to check your claims. He will protect your data and will only "aye" or "ney" to your claims.

So either go ahead and finally prove your accusations or stop posting.

You've already made a fool out of yourself. You now have the chance to let this thread running dry and beg that it fades into nothingness over time. Or you could carry on, refusing to show any proof of your accusations with yet another shady excuse (hint: typically "technical issues" or "RL stress" is next on the list ...)

yfz3r0
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2010.06.01 10:21:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: Scott Woods
Originally by: Larana Randie
lol Scot...proof or it didn't happen m8. I think we might have a new investigation target for the IEE here :P


You ask me for proof, yet you don't ask for proof from them for their side?

If I recall correctly, best standards and practice require the standards be universally applied.


Innocent until PROVEN guilty man... But something tells me you can't do that.


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