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Spectre3353
Gallente
Heavy Risk...

Posted - 2010.07.15 14:18:00 - [2341]
 

+1

Dr Cron
Northern Lights Number 5
Hydroponic Zone
Posted - 2010.07.15 15:18:00 - [2342]
 

+2, but why bother...

Drifnir
Mnemonic Enterprises
Posted - 2010.07.15 18:49:00 - [2343]
 

Edited by: Drifnir on 15/07/2010 19:00:52
I spent the day at work thinking of things CCP fixed, and did it well. This is just to give them an idea of what to aim for, when they get around to it....in a year and a half.

- the rigs revamp was spot on, and put rigs on practically every ship in New Eden.

- the scanning system was much improved with Apocrypha. While i wouldn't call it fun, more of a chore, at least it won't make me want to claw my eyes out anymore.

- weapon grouping. Made life easier for players, reduced server load. Everyone's happy.

- stealth bomber re-focusing. Made the ship usuful again, and fun as all hell to fly. It's practically made for WH-space Surprised

- All the server upgrades with Quantum Rise, stackless IO and all that techno-babble. It worked like a charm, and for a while there, lag was manageable.

- Wormholes. Alright i'm biased, since i'm a fulltime wormhole jockey. But damn...no blobfests, no local, good ganks and tonnes of isk to be made. Tech 3 to boot!
Hell yeah!

- Sov changes in Dominion. While i've no experience with sovreignty, a change to sov was long over due. Whether the fix CCP came up with was 100% succesfull, I'll leave to the nullsec crowd, but i'll give CCP partial credit for trying at least. However, the idea of paying 'rent' for space you claim as your own, is a cognitive dissonance, if i ever heard one...

- Doomsday change was a good thing too....i think. Never been on the receiving end of one Shocked.
However, the proliferation of titans warrented a change, no doubt, and the boomstick they came up with, looks to me like a decent fix.

- faction ship revamp, barring the dramiel, has turned out well too. No longer pricy hangar queens, you see them out and about all over EVE.

- in-game mail and browser. Waaayyyyy more than 18 months over due, but at least an ok fix when they got around to it. Still missing flash functionality with the browser, though....

- last and least, planets. They look pretty cool, granted, but, PI is a disgrace as is, at least we got some eyecandy in the bargain.

So, fellow bitter vets, nil desperandum. CCP CAN fix stuff when they are allowed to. They can even achieve _EXCELLENCE_ once in a while, but the future is looking pretty damn bleak. We've waited for Incarna for what 3+ years? I can wait 3 more, if it frees up resources to get EVE back to it's former pewpew'ing glory, hopefully with a UI that's so obtuse, that religion seems reasonable, when compared to it.

please add all the cool fixes i've missed Smile

Have a pleasant day, everyone.

Jack Coutu
Gallente
Percussive Diplomacy
The Phoenix. Consortium
Posted - 2010.07.15 19:01:00 - [2344]
 

PLEASE

Auroral Borealis
Posted - 2010.07.15 21:27:00 - [2345]
 

Oh good I can hardly await for walking in stations, not flying a spaceship, in 2011?

Thank goodness EVE isn't buggy, laggy, and made up of a dozens of half-finished features. Imagine if something as important as sov was bugged. That would suck wouldn't it. Imagine if modules wouldn't cycle in fights. Imagine if fleets were unable to load systems with less than 100 people in them.

I can't wait until another space game comes out that's actually playable. Rolling Eyes

Tyr Aeron
Therapy.
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2010.07.15 22:17:00 - [2346]
 

I think the CSM minutes and CCP's conspicuous lack of a reply to this uber threadnaught are evidence enough that Management is hell bent on cramming more useless and unwanted crap down our throats. They wave their newest buzz-word (stake-holder) about like they'll actually listen to anything we're saying.

CCP says they listen to the CSM, but the minutes say otherwise. I know the CSM brought this issue to their attention and CCP then told them as politely as possible to, and I'm paraphrasing, 'Shut the **** up. You're getting Dust and Incarna and you're all going to love it you ungreatfull little ****s."

One of CCP's concerns is developing new content to draw new players. Does that sound stupid to anyone else? A:) If they're new players, EVERYTHING IS NEW TO THEM!!! EVE is complex enough, they don't need more **** they can't use to confuse them further. B:) Most new players never stick with EVE that long anyway and all this new crap and all the broken old crap is exactly what's preventing CCP from growing the player base.

Apparently, several members of CCP management are console gamers who don't play EVE and another portion are more interested in trying on outfits and fancy hats all day rather than actually 'playing' EVE. On the other hand, I guess that seems perfectly reasonable when you don't have to worry about how much ISK is in your wallet and you can just roam around in Jove Battleships all day or just materialize 50 billion ISK into your wallet.

Kommedian
The Athiest Syndicate
Posted - 2010.07.15 23:07:00 - [2347]
 

Edited by: Kommedian on 16/07/2010 01:03:16
Running late to a doctors appointment...still had to stop to +1 this.

CCP: This is an opportunity. Don't let it pass by.

Vaneshi SnowCrash
Posted - 2010.07.15 23:55:00 - [2348]
 

I support this. However I don't expect or want everything to be 100% perfect, that's impossible or in reality it would take so long to get all possible kinks out of the code it'd never see the light of day.

But yes, more quality less quantity is something I happily support. 1 expansion a year is fine by me.

Seithir
Posted - 2010.07.16 00:38:00 - [2349]
 

supported

Wintron Auto
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.07.16 01:02:00 - [2350]
 

Edited by: Wintron Auto on 16/07/2010 01:07:20
Originally by: Drifnir
Edited by: Drifnir on 15/07/2010 19:00:52
I spent the day at work thinking of things CCP fixed, and did it well. This is just to give them an idea of what to aim for, when they get around to it....in a year and a half.

- the rigs revamp was spot on, and put rigs on practically every ship in New Eden.

- the scanning system was much improved with Apocrypha. While i wouldn't call it fun, more of a chore, at least it won't make me want to claw my eyes out anymore.

- weapon grouping. Made life easier for players, reduced server load. Everyone's happy.

- stealth bomber re-focusing. Made the ship usuful again, and fun as all hell to fly. It's practically made for WH-space Surprised

- All the server upgrades with Quantum Rise, stackless IO and all that techno-babble. It worked like a charm, and for a while there, lag was manageable.

- Wormholes. Alright i'm biased, since i'm a fulltime wormhole jockey. But damn...no blobfests, no local, good ganks and tonnes of isk to be made. Tech 3 to boot!
Hell yeah!

- Sov changes in Dominion. While i've no experience with sovreignty, a change to sov was long over due. Whether the fix CCP came up with was 100% succesfull, I'll leave to the nullsec crowd, but i'll give CCP partial credit for trying at least. However, the idea of paying 'rent' for space you claim as your own, is a cognitive dissonance, if i ever heard one...

- Doomsday change was a good thing too....i think. Never been on the receiving end of one Shocked.
However, the proliferation of titans warrented a change, no doubt, and the boomstick they came up with, looks to me like a decent fix.

- faction ship revamp, barring the dramiel, has turned out well too. No longer pricy hangar queens, you see them out and about all over EVE.

- in-game mail and browser. Waaayyyyy more than 18 months over due, but at least an ok fix when they got around to it. Still missing flash functionality with the browser, though....

- last and least, planets. They look pretty cool, granted, but, PI is a disgrace as is, at least we got some eyecandy in the bargain.

So, fellow bitter vets, nil desperandum. CCP CAN fix stuff when they are allowed to. They can even achieve _EXCELLENCE_ once in a while, but the future is looking pretty damn bleak. We've waited for Incarna for what 3+ years? I can wait 3 more, if it frees up resources to get EVE back to it's former pewpew'ing glory, hopefully with a UI that's so obtuse, that religion seems reasonable, when compared to it.

please add all the cool fixes i've missed Smile

Have a pleasant day, everyone.


should i take it from the fact that you didn't support this, that you don't support this?

i'm tired of having a UI that's such a pain in the ass i can barely be arsed to play with it, and then having CCP tell me that it's not important for the next 2 years because they've got other "cool" **** they want to do first. i've DIED because of this awesome UI before, and then had CCP tell me "we don't have any logs of this, so go **** yourself, have a nice day."

*edit* and just FYI, since you don't live in 0.0 I'll fill you in, the sov changes were bull****, half-ass implemented, and - get this, this is a shocker - they never went back and tidied them up! gosh, could it be because they were too busy having two thirds of their manpower work on "walking in ****"? :o

Barathrum Zinfandel
BlackSite Prophecy
Posted - 2010.07.16 01:06:00 - [2351]
 

/Supported

Selene D'Celeste
Caldari
The D'Celeste Trading Company
ISK Six
Posted - 2010.07.16 01:19:00 - [2352]
 

Better late than never.

Velan Wolf
Gallente
Posted - 2010.07.16 01:28:00 - [2353]
 

Agreed and Supported

AzureStorms
Two Brothers Mining Corp.
R.A.G.E
Posted - 2010.07.16 01:42:00 - [2354]
 

Supported. This is beyond late.

KalEl Trask
Posted - 2010.07.16 03:52:00 - [2355]
 

I support this.
Fix the "By design" implementation failures.

Threv Echandari
Caldari
Moira.
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2010.07.16 04:35:00 - [2356]
 

Supported and endorsed fully. I would like to see a moratorium on expansions until the game we know and love is in better shape.
Dont get me wrong I actually liked the expansions but quality issues surrounding them are just too much too ignore. Faction Warfare is a great example of an expansion that had possibilities and was fun in the beginning until you realized what some of the problems were. But Time and Time again like the other features it just seems like its done Half-A55ed. Then its on to the the "Next Expansion." I want Incarna (oh yesI do) and Dust would be nice too, but if you release DUST with the same lack of quality the recent expansions have had then you will find your first venture into the Console FPS gaming market will be your last. XBOX and PS3 players will leave your game in droves and bad press will kill it.

STOP THE MADNESS

As for the CSM Don't relent. The quality issue is huge and players are going to get fed up. The uneven Sub Stats of late are a sign of more "Bad things" to come if CCP doesn't change its present course.

Coreaxe
Posted - 2010.07.16 06:33:00 - [2357]
 

Supported.

Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
Posted - 2010.07.16 07:48:00 - [2358]
 

Quote:
It was mentioned by CCP that the data does not seem to support that polished quality sells better than new features.


CCP don't care about EVE.

Drifnir
Mnemonic Enterprises
Posted - 2010.07.16 08:28:00 - [2359]
 

Originally by: Wintron Auto

should i take it from the fact that you didn't support this, that you don't support this?


I supported back on page 60-something of the threadnought. All the broken, borked, wonky stuff affects W-space too, though lag is not much of an issue, since there's practically no people out here.

Originally by: Wintron Auto

*edit* and just FYI, since you don't live in 0.0 I'll fill you in, the sov changes were bull****, half-ass implemented, and - get this, this is a shocker - they never went back and tidied them up! gosh, could it be because they were too busy having two thirds of their manpower work on "walking in ****"? :o


It doesn't really surprise me, tbh, we've all seen the 'release and forget' approach too many times now. Too bad really, nulsec used to be a source of great entertainment, even though i don't play there. Like a soap opera i'm not ashamed of following.

Taross
Caldari
Laurentson INC

Posted - 2010.07.16 09:22:00 - [2360]
 

Agreed! CSM members, keep up the good work.

TheBlueMonkey
Gallente
Fags R Us
Posted - 2010.07.16 10:53:00 - [2361]
 

Thanks for trying CSM, shame CCP doesn't care and is too focused on new content

FOXX IS
dutch viper squadron
viperfleet
Posted - 2010.07.16 10:57:00 - [2362]
 

+1

Azzma
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2010.07.16 14:18:00 - [2363]
 

Commit to excellence, CCP.

Kisdis
Posted - 2010.07.16 15:07:00 - [2364]
 

for the love of all that is sacred stop all work on "waling in station" and fix bugs in game.

why even have CSM if you ignore them?

Kani Prost
Amarr
Viziam

Posted - 2010.07.16 17:43:00 - [2365]
 

/me agrees

Destruction Theory
Posted - 2010.07.16 21:22:00 - [2366]
 

Back to the top and supported. +1.

Echoness
Posted - 2010.07.16 22:33:00 - [2367]
 

+1

Drake Neutrino
Posted - 2010.07.16 22:42:00 - [2368]
 


Maxsim Goratiev
Gallente
Imperial Tau Syndicate
POD-SQUAD
Posted - 2010.07.16 22:49:00 - [2369]
 

while i agree with alot of stuff sayd in this proposal, assembly hall is not exactly the place for "CCP, it's time to fix EVE"!
that does very little good

Kaizoku Taiyou
Draft Dodgers

Posted - 2010.07.16 23:38:00 - [2370]
 

Support 100%, but also know 100% that it is fairly useless given the minutes of the last meeting...


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