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Amanda Wilkins
Caldari
Dromedary Goat Albatross and Fish
Big Bang Quantum
Posted - 2010.05.27 07:25:00 - [1]
 

As of the deployment of Tyrannis, Evegate now is in game and has the expected default settings of "Contacts of excellent standing" as default.

It is known to be good game design (outside of CCP, that is) to go with the concept "do no harm". As the use of contacts can be abused and since players at this point actively have to remove the access, that concept is broken in Tyrannis.

I would like to propose that Eve Gate profile settings be set to default to "No pilots".


Amanda Wilkins
Caldari
Dromedary Goat Albatross and Fish
Big Bang Quantum
Posted - 2010.05.27 07:30:00 - [2]
 

I am obviously going to be in support of my proposal. Surprised?


Clarion Abbot
Posted - 2010.05.27 07:34:00 - [3]
 

No Brainer - Silly , Silly, Greedy CCP

Niganoia Drinofa
Amarr
Posted - 2010.05.27 07:34:00 - [4]
 

Good idea, I hate that you have to go around every setting just because CCP don't follow normal guidelines and set everything as "off" as default.

Zey Nadar
Gallente
Unknown Soldiers

Posted - 2010.05.27 07:40:00 - [5]
 

Supported.

michael weels
Gallente
Posted - 2010.05.27 07:44:00 - [6]
 

I too, support this motion.

Chagal Civ
Caldari
Silver Snake Enterprise
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2010.05.27 07:45:00 - [7]
 

couldn't agree more !

I'thari
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.05.27 07:49:00 - [8]
 

well, it's kinda late for that - it already launched, but better late than never. It's not like every newbie gets a message "hey, that person you're about to set to +10 will be able to see all your contacts on eve-gate!" - it is a part of the game (according to CCP devs), right? So game can tell that your setting is default, riiight? Ah, whatever... they're hopless.

Zallende
Posted - 2010.05.27 09:08:00 - [9]
 

100% fully supported.

You guys have heard of the fuss Mark Z has found himself in over on FB, haven't you?

Zallende.

Alexis Cato
Posted - 2010.05.27 09:56:00 - [10]
 


Omega Flames
Caldari
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Sanctuary Pact
Posted - 2010.05.27 10:59:00 - [11]
 


Gereon Valk
Posted - 2010.05.27 15:16:00 - [12]
 


Ephemeral Waves
Silver Snake Enterprise
Posted - 2010.05.27 15:40:00 - [13]
 

CSM is nothing but a PR stunt that let CCP claim to be listening. But I'll support this if it fixes this privacy glitch.

Kormara
Posted - 2010.05.27 15:40:00 - [14]
 

.

Whips'n Chains
Posted - 2010.05.27 15:41:00 - [15]
 

No brainer. CCP is ******ed for using open privacy settings.

Mynxee
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2010.05.27 19:08:00 - [16]
 

100% supported. Exposure of potentially strategic info by default is an appallingly bad idea.

Trebor Daehdoow
Gallente
Sane Industries Inc.

Posted - 2010.05.27 19:40:00 - [17]
 

I too agree that the default should be "none".

Wild Spirit
Posted - 2010.05.27 20:35:00 - [18]
 


Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services

Posted - 2010.05.28 00:10:00 - [19]
 

It's annoying that now we have to brief every new player in how to fix evegate privacy.


De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Norse'Storm Battle Group
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2010.05.28 02:02:00 - [20]
 


Dyvim Slorm
Robonia

Posted - 2010.05.28 13:27:00 - [21]
 

Supported

darius mclever
Posted - 2010.05.28 13:39:00 - [22]
 


Tasty Morsel
Posted - 2010.05.28 22:31:00 - [23]
 


chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2010.05.29 10:03:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: chatgris on 29/05/2010 10:03:10

King KLoWn
Solaris Operations
Forever Unbound
Posted - 2010.05.31 04:48:00 - [25]
 

Signed

Mara Rinn
Posted - 2010.05.31 07:53:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Mynxee
100% supported. Exposure of potentially strategic info by default is an appallingly bad idea.


If you're using personal contact lists for standings of strategic nature, there's obviously something awry with the standings system itself, not with EVE Gate.

Perhaps you need to think about the overloading of the standings feature for use as an indicator of "friends" versus "people I won't kill" versus "people allowed to hang out near my POS without being shot" versus "people allowed to dock in my station" ... but those lists controlling POS and stations are based on corporate or alliance standings.

If you don't trust people enough to let them know who your friends are, don't set them to excellent standings. Use "abandon wrecks" instead of setting that friendly neighbourhood salvager dude to "excellent standings".

Better understanding of the issue will lead to less fear and panic. Having said that, I'd prefer it if CCP had implemented the contact list "tags" first, then allocated certain privileges to be granted to certain "tags", such as "Spacebook friends", "Can Loot My Stuff", "Taisy Roadhouse Friends".

In the end, just remember there are two values for "blue".

Sir SmellyFart
State War Academy

Posted - 2010.05.31 12:07:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Whips'n Chains
No brainer.


That explains CCP getting it wrong. Rolling Eyes

Arnba
Caldari
Factory of the zillion Echoes

Posted - 2010.05.31 12:40:00 - [28]
 

supported

Asuri Kinnes
Caldari
Adhocracy Incorporated
Posted - 2010.05.31 22:48:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Mynxee
100% supported. Exposure of potentially strategic info by default is an appallingly bad idea.


But its "an integral part" of your Eve experience! CCP said so!

Haven't used it yet, don't know whats "integral" about it, supported!

Drake Draconis
Minmatar
Shadow Cadre
Shadow Confederation
Posted - 2010.05.31 23:11:00 - [30]
 

yes....nerf spacebook.


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